New T$$AA Divisions!

[bigdanteague]

And thats the way it should be

[rlh]

. . .

Now lets look at South Pitt- they are a Single A school with a 4A(marion co) and a 2a (whitwell) also in their county.  Open zone applies here.  they have beat marion Co, the 4A larger school the last 5 years by a combined score of 214 to 46.  they have beat the 2a school (whitwell) by a combined score of 310 to 60.  So which school do you think Most football players in marion co go to.  With open zoning it allows SP to pull from a much larger pool than most Single A schools.  any reasonable thinking person knows that a single A should not just pound a 4a and 2A in the same county, year after year.  Conclusion Sp has definite advantage allowed by open zoning.

Coalfield the 3rd semifinalist- once again an open zone county.  there are 4 schools in Morgan co. Wartburg (2a) oakdale (1a) and Sunbright (1A) .  over the last 4 years Coalfield which is just scant miles away from these other 3 schools has beaten Wartburg (the 2A) by a combined score of 142 to 17, beaten Oakdael 183 to 6 and sunbright 154 to 67. Coalfield has had only 1 close game in 4 years between these 4 school that are within same county and same classification or higher than Coalfield.  Once again this doesnt add up.  Would make a reasonable person think most good football players in morgan co decide to go to Coalfield.  Conclusion- Coalfield has distinct advantage by selecton from entire county for football players.

Last but not least is Union City.  These guys have the perfect setup.  Large 4a school 8 miles away allows them to keep numbers down and stay in single A but have a huge talent pool to select from.  this system cant be beat.  they actually have just figured out their advantage in the last couple of years but their set-up is so sweet,  look for them to rule single A for the foreseeable future.  while they lost to the large 4a in '10 and '11 they whipped them in 12 by a score of 40-13 and Obion (the 4A) decided they didnt want to play against their own athletes and wouldnt play them in 2013.  the setup is perfect cause union city is a city school and Obion Co is a county school , 2 diff governing boards that dont have to answer to each other.  They dont have to play fair.  So if you want a state title do you load up the 4a or the 1a.  You know the answer and it worked like a charm. Conclusion- openzoning allows them tremendous advantage especially with the population numbers in Obion Co.  Should be embarrassed if they dont win it every year.  Look for them to get bumped up to 2a when they discover its easier to win than 1a is.

So who is the bigger offender here? the private? or the openzone? not sure but the system sure needs some fixing

 

 

You are completely incorrect regarding 1a SP, 2a MC and 2a Whitwell.  They aren't open zone in the sense you imply.  A student entering the 9th grade can go to any of the 3 IF approved.  After that, he would have to sit out a year unless his parents physically moved and was cleared by the TSSAA.  Marion County schools have specific bus routes set up for each of the 3 High Schools.  Furthermore, inspection of the roster for the past 43 years would show that SP has been mostly local kids.  That would hold true prior to that as well.

[bigdanteague]

if you dont know if you are going to be good at football before 9th grade odds are you arent going to be good at football. And if you are good at football i bet you get approved. i didnt even mention the north eastern Alabama students SP gets

Edited March 24, 2014 by bigdanteague

[Indian]

The schools that will probably be directly affected are the ones currently near the cutoffs. The big question is, with private schools out, will they remain three class/six class playoffs, or go four class (my preference) or five class. Also will they divide by football schools or do as is it now, divideby all?

[devilsden]

Crow,

Read  my post again...I said start practice 2 weeks before Labor Day and start the games 2 weeks after Labor Day.

[old24eagle]

Im all about a split and equal playing field but this makes no sense whatsoever. Where im at 1 school serves three zipcodes and there are less than 400 kids in that school. Large rural counties have multiple zipcodes and very few people.

I lied we serve  5 zip codes

[rlh]

if you dont know if you are going to be good at football before 9th grade odds are you arent going to be good at football. And if you are good at football i bet you get approved. i didnt even mention the north eastern Alabama students SP gets

You are wrong here or ignorant.  There haven't been but a handful of students from Jasper to go to SP the last 40 years and even fewer from Whitwell.  As for the Alabama comment goes, there has been 1 who moved there last year.  Nice try though.  You could look through rosters from year to year like I suggested and you would see that many of the names are similar.  In fact, if you were to look at the 1969 State title roster and the 1999 state title roster you would see that several of the kids from 1999 had their dads on that 69 team.  There are examples on other rosters as well.  For example, the fullback'S dad from this year's team's (Mitchel) was known as the bus when he played for the Pirates. 

Edited March 24, 2014 by rlh

[MountainTroll]

You are wrong here or ignorant.  There haven't been but a handful of students from Jasper to go to SP the last 40 years and even fewer from Whitwell.  As for the Alabama comment goes, there has been 1 who moved there last year.  Nice try though.  You could look through rosters from year to year like I suggested and you would see that many of the names are similar.  In fact, if you were to look at the 1969 State title roster and the 1999 state title roster you would see that several of the kids from 1999 had their dads on that 69 team.  There are examples on other rosters as well.  For example, the fullback'S dad from this year's team's (Mitchel) was known as the bus when he played for the Pirates. 

So . . . they been comin' up from Bridgeport and Stevenson for generations.  Is that what yer sayin?

[rlh]

So . . . they been comin' up from Bridgeport and Stevenson for generations.  Is that what yer sayin?

Now you are acting ignorant . . .  show me a roster with the players on it. 

[wingman10]

So . . . they been comin' up from Bridgeport and Stevenson for generations.  Is that what yer sayin? how dare you!

[crow]

Crow,

Read  my post again...I said start practice 2 weeks before Labor Day and start the games 2 weeks after Labor Day.

My bad. Yeah, I'd go for that. Sorry for the confusion.

[bigdanteague]

Now you are acting ignorant . . .  show me a roster with the players on it. 

So you should have no problem establishing your zone and if you allow players from outside it you get hit with the multiplier