It's time to separate the privates

[Indian]

Why do they need to come up endowments. The small private schools won't be playing MBA or Ensworth. They will be against the likes of FRA and King's Academy. Without or without aid most will be competitive.

[MountainTroll]

It ain't really financial aide in the traditional sense.  It's just "tuition forgiveness", and you ain't got to extend it to everybody, just a few key athletes who otherwise couldn't afford to come to your school.  Just means the church or whoever has to underwrite the school's operating budget a little more.

 

If you're confused, just call Notre Dame or Knox Catholic.  They will tell you how it works.

[Indian]

You'd have about 70 schools in Division II with about 50 in football. Plenty for classifications to keep the smallest ones away from Ensworth (that type argument was used to prevent a total split 20 years ago),

[big red big blue]

Before it passes, though, Childress said one group that needs to be considered is the 23 independent schools currently competing in Division I.

“The biggest impact (in the event of a split) will be on those 23 schools … that have made a conscious decision not to provide need-based financial aid to varsity athletes,†he said. “It’s going to be a totally different direction for those schools. They’re saying, ‘we’ve made this decision to stay here and we’ve done this; if we’re going to have to compete in that division, do we give need-based financial aide, and if we do, where do we find the funds to do it?’

“Those are the schools that are going to be impacted the most: The ones that are not asking to move but would be forced to move. What do you do with those schools? Some feel it would destroy their programs if they had to compete with some of the other programs in Division II.â€

[Indian]

Zzzzz. Again a non-issue. MTCS wont be playing MBA. Does Mr Childress not understand most of the current Division I private schools could immediately enter Division II and be competitive in a smaller/smallest class?

[big red big blue]

I think Mr. Childress has a little more of a conscience when it comes to the TSSAA making it up as it goes, and radically impacting schools designed and operating under the TSSAA's own rules, just to placate the latest round of people upset with private schools winning something they are not supposed to.

[Indian]

20 years past due is not radical.

 

Do you think the current Division I private schools, as a whole, would be unable to compete in a small Division II class?

[cbg]

No better time than the present to divide and conquer so allow the split to take place ASAP. The reason that Benard does not want all the private schools to be placed in one (1) division is because there is security in numbers. If this takes place there would be a total of 72 private schools in D2 and the strong rumor on the street is those 72 private schools would leave the TSSAA and form their own association. The TSSAA would take a significant revenue hit that could result in employee layoffs inside the TSSAA offices.

Edited March 12, 2015 by cbg

[big red big blue]

20 years past due is not radical.

 

Do you think the current Division I private schools, as a whole, would be unable to compete in a small Division II class?

why should they have to?  They operate under the prescribed rules set forth by the TSSAA that define who is eligible to compete in Division 1 and who must compete in Division 2.  Whether they are competitive or not is irrelevant. 

[Indian]

MBA and Brentwood Academy were previously in the same division with public schools, too. They were moved and rightfully so as all the other private schools should have been. The longterm results show a competition disadvantage, the reason a total split is needed. Moving MBA and BA made the Riverdales and Oak Ridges happy but it did nothing for the smaller schools. Some have moved on to Division II voluntarily, the rest need to go.

 

If it's irrelevant, you should let Mr Childress know since he seems to feel they will have trouble unless they can offer aid.

[big red big blue]

On what basis (actual results) were MBA, mccallie, Baylor, father Ryan, and Christian brothers "rightly" moved to division 2 in 1997? Which outcomes demonstrated that these schools--the financial aid awarding schools--had an unfair advantage over their peers against whom they were playing?

[Indian]

Multiple state titles and high finishes across sports and across classifications, by a small number of schools. You can check records on the TSSAA site.