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Well, I predicted this game would happen when the season started. I felt like TCA would get to the finals of regional and finish runner up. I also felt like UC would win region so here we are. TCA is now battle tested so anything UC throws at them will not shake them. UC will cause some matchup issues but I also think TCA will cause some matchup issues for UC. UC will have the rebounding advantage because of Stockdale but TCA will have the advantage off the bench. TCA's 6th, 7th and 8th men would start for most teams other than Mitchell. UC will have the best college prospect on the floor and TCA must contain him as well as Stockdale. TCA has 8 players who can score. We do not have one scorer we rely on. UC probably has the edge in shooting with Deberry and Stewart. TCA has the edge in ballhandling with 3 guards who can get it done. UC will certainly have the home court advantage but TCA's purple nation travels well. I think the UC crowd is going to be shocked at the "Hoosier" type team TCA has. They will play you hard for 32 minutes and make you work for your baskets. Main advantage that UC has is that they have.................COPENOC!! The worlds greatest UC fan! Going to be tough to overcome him! Haha. Cope, I'm the guest so what are you buying me?

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Well TCA I wish I could say some BBQ Nachoes but I guess you just gonna have to settle with a lollipop! ..LOL..Naa..They got a burger or a dog if hungry..lol..Man I wish I could predict this game but I cant other than UC has home court advantage because I havent seen yall play..But I do know yall have better guard play that can handle the rock and very fundamentaly sound ball club with a great bunch of kids that play hard for 32 minutes. .You have saw UC so you got a better outlook than I do..I know that UC is very well coached and also plays hard for 32 minutes and have a sour taste in their mouth how their season ended last year..I know they want another shot at Mitchell in the glass house if they make it..Just by that im gonna take UC by 10 or better because they play so well at home..Humboldt was just no test for the Tornadoes last night man..They were beat from the opening tip! ..Humboldt will get THUMPED at Mitchell! ..So I hope to see ya their and no matter what happens ill wish either team luck at the Borro!

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This is only in reference to UC vs TCA

 

 

Let’s just cut to the chase and put the homerism stuff to rest and look at this game for what it is.

 

UC is most likely going to take TCA out behind the woodshed. Everything point to an outcome like that. Of course anything can happen. I just like to deal in reality. Homeric perspectives can almost (not always) be discarded because judgment can get clouded. Nothing wrong with that, just saying I’ve seen this so many times over the years. I actually stopped coming here for the most part because it became impossible to have a rational conversation on basketball because people cannot put HOMERISM aside. When it’s brought up its like, haters! LOL or something as childish as hey come to the game and meet me…how freaking ridiculous is that? If I show up somebody gonna dodo in they britches. Just saying ha-ha…talking smack and banter is cool; it’s also cool and incumbent upon whomever to put things in perspective when they see things that don’t square with reality.  I’ve been around this game even before I played for old man Sisco way back in the day. My only allegiance is to Jackson SS but I’m always straight up, I picked Haywood to beat them and the game never be in doubt…why? Because that’s what most likely to happen.

 

Union City IS NOT going to be surprised by any teams fan base. This isn’t their first rodeo; this program has as rich tradition as any in the state…..or at worst close too. If anyone thinks UC now, recently, and historically doesn’t know about clutch and pressure situations they must have been under a rock dating back to when Daddy Sisco and Stanley Caldwell went on they’re run.

 

There is nothing and I mean absolutely nothing that TCA is going to be able to throw at UC, just not going to happen. UC will never flinch.

 

This is a HOME game for UC…..TCA IS NOT going to go into UC and come out with a win, not going to happen. UC has rich tradition and an insane fan base as well. Just like all fan bases they have the crazies too. I would also point out little Sisco could care less, he will not he hesitant at all to put the hammer down on TCA and run them out of the gym.

 

People can believe what they want to, nothing wrong with that at all. For me, this is a rather easy one to pick. Nothing against TCA but they aren’t on the same planet as UC. That’s just the way it is. UC plays in the toughest single A district in the state. As always its seems, the district is so tough the region championship is usually two teams from the same district, just like this year UC/Humboldt.

 

It’s always helpful to be mindful single A is the lowest level in the state. I just point this out as a reminder these are not dominant AA/AAA. However, UC is one of the few single A programs that could consistently win and sometimes win big at a higher level. TCA is not now and has never been that kind of program. TCA had a good season but far from dominant, and we are talking single A here. UC had as dominant season as you’ll find at this level (and no they are not on the same planet as the MJ brown team either)

 

I don’t buy the stuff when blanket comments are made about whomever 7th and 8th guy can start for most, who are most? They are 7th and 8th because they are not 1 thru 6 for a reason. Yeah maybe the bottom rung of the ladder types they might start. I saw a guy make a blanket statement not long ago his team had 5 guys average 15 a game or something like that I simply said BS, that doesn’t happen in a 32 minutes game averaged out. If a team has two players at 15 + avg that’s good, 3 is awesome, 5 doesn't happen. I don’t want to hear about anomalies either because anomalies are FAR out of the norm. You know like Tony Delk once averaged 37 a game, or Cannon Whitby 40, or John Jenkins 40…. well how often does that happen when considering every team in every class in every sing  year, what percentage does Delk/Whiteby/Jenkins fall into, maybe 1% of 1% ha-ha    blanket statements are meaningless without number to back them up (even if stats per minute so at least you have something to extrapolate)

 

 

A few things to think about:

 

THIS IS A HOME GAME FOR UC, A DOMINANT SINGLE A TEAM THIS YEAR. Union City margins are absolutely impressive; remember high school is a 32 minute game so when you are basically on balance destroying 2/3rd of your opponents by +20 well enough said on that front. Then to think your last 10 is by +27.

 

Not to mention the out of district schedule far superior to TCA and playing in a rock solid district that is also far superior to TCA.

 

 

 

UC 30-3 average pts for 71.2 against 49.3 (avg margin 21.9 for a 33 game schedule)

TCA 25-9 average pts for 57.1 against 49.3 (avg margin 7.8 for a 34 game schedule)

 

 

LAST 10 GAMES, TO INCLUDE DISTRIC AND REGION PLAY

UC 10-0 average pts for 78.6 against 51.5 (margin 27.1)

TCA 9-1 average pts for 62.1 against 48.3 (margin 13.8)

 

 

 

TOP OTHER TWO TEAMS IN EACH DISTRICT (record to include post season) I would submit Humboldt and Halls are absolutely equals to Middleton and Adamsville, most likely better but that’s just an opinion based on many factors.

 

Union City record against the Humboldt and Halls 7-0 avg pts for 73.8 against 48 (avg margin 25.8)

 

TCS record against Middleton and Adamsville 4-2 avg pts for 54.6 against 52.8 (avg margin 1.8)

 

 

 

The out of district schedules are simply no comparison, UC had a far superior out of district schedule.

 

 

The non woodshed games decided by 10 points or less (to include losses)

 

UC 2-3 one loss to a TN team (Jackson SS) U

TCA 10-9

 

The Woodshed wins by 20 or more

UC 20 wins +20

TCA 6 wins +20

 

 

 

I don’t think so but if some of the numbers are off, the deviation would be small and not measurable.

 

 

So for those that think TCA has a legit shot to go into Union City and pull off a stunner I would say good luck on that one. I just don’t see it happening; in fact I think UC might blow out TCA. I might be wrong and if so I have no problem admitting after the fact because after all it’s only a game, not war and peace ya know.

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Something that I discussed with a buddy of mine today as you just got through speaking about how tough 14-A is this year... Humboldt and Union City are obviously the best 2 out of 14-A and Mitchell is obviously the best Single A team in the state, possibly country (lol), but teams like Halls, Middleton, Lake Co. and YES we will throw TCA in there, could very easily make a run to play in the state championship if they were in another district or part of the state. Of course, if they were in another part of the state, they would eventually crash into Mitchell or Union City, but you know what I'm getting at. District 14-A, and Single A in the west, is stacked on the guys side for Single A basketball. Union City running through this district and region is quite impressive.

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Something that I discussed with a buddy of mine today as you just got through speaking about how tough 14-A is this year... Humboldt and Union City are obviously the best 2 out of 14-A and Mitchell is obviously the best Single A team in the state, possibly country (lol), but teams like Halls, Middleton, Lake Co. and YES we will throw TCA in there, could very easily make a run to play in the state championship if they were in another district or part of the state. Of course, if they were in another part of the state, they would eventually crash into Mitchell or Union City, but you know what I'm getting at. District 14-A, and Single A in the west, is stacked on the guys side for Single A basketball. Union City running through this district and region is quite impressive.

 

 

Union City playing TCA at home. That's a different ball club when they're on their floor. TCA is a good ball club Union City is a tough team to beat especially at Union City. Mr. Basketball finalist Marcus Deberry had a quiet night last night but expect him to play his best basketball Tuesday night. These guys want Murfreesboro. And if TCA is what's in front of them then TCA will be another one UC will take down.

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To yankee8589 that was impressive statements. I figure somebody like Trinity will have a comeback or rash verbal defend of Trinity team IMO there no comeback to your statements except for Trinity got heart and play hard and seem to believe in one another. No argument that if they do beat Union City at Union City it's fluke but it'll be March 3 and they don't call it March Madness for nothing

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Union City playing TCA at home. That's a different ball club when they're on their floor. TCA is a good ball club Union City is a tough team to beat especially at Union City. Mr. Basketball finalist Marcus Deberry had a quiet night last night but expect him to play his best basketball Tuesday night. These guys want Murfreesboro. And if TCA is what's in front of them then TCA will be another one UC will take down.

 

Something that I discussed with a buddy of mine today as you just got through speaking about how tough 14-A is this year... Humboldt and Union City are obviously the best 2 out of 14-A and Mitchell is obviously the best Single A team in the state, possibly country (lol), but teams like Halls, Middleton, Lake Co. and YES we will throw TCA in there, could very easily make a run to play in the state championship if they were in another district or part of the state. Of course, if they were in another part of the state, they would eventually crash into Mitchell or Union City, but you know what I'm getting at. District 14-A, and Single A in the west, is stacked on the guys side for Single A basketball. Union City running through this district and region is quite impressive.

 

So you will THROW  TCA in with Middleton, Halls and Lake Co?  WHo beat Middleton in the District Championship by 15 and also beat them in the regular season?

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Union City playing TCA at home. That's a different ball club when they're on their floor. TCA is a good ball club Union City is a tough team to beat especially at Union City. Mr. Basketball finalist Marcus Deberry had a quiet night last night but expect him to play his best basketball Tuesday night. These guys want Murfreesboro. And if TCA is what's in front of them then TCA will be another one UC will take down.

Good Post!  We would expect that UC wants Murfreesboro really bad. 

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This is only in reference to UC vs TCA

 

 

Let’s just cut to the chase and put the homerism stuff to rest and look at this game for what it is.

 

UC is most likely going to take TCA out behind the woodshed. Everything point to an outcome like that. Of course anything can happen. I just like to deal in reality. Homeric perspectives can almost (not always) be discarded because judgment can get clouded. Nothing wrong with that, just saying I’ve seen this so many times over the years. I actually stopped coming here for the most part because it became impossible to have a rational conversation on basketball because people cannot put HOMERISM aside. When it’s brought up its like, haters! LOL or something as childish as hey come to the game and meet me…how freaking ridiculous is that? If I show up somebody gonna dodo in they britches. Just saying ha-ha…talking smack and banter is cool; it’s also cool and incumbent upon whomever to put things in perspective when they see things that don’t square with reality.  I’ve been around this game even before I played for old man Sisco way back in the day. My only allegiance is to Jackson SS but I’m always straight up, I picked Haywood to beat them and the game never be in doubt…why? Because that’s what most likely to happen.

 

Union City IS NOT going to be surprised by any teams fan base. This isn’t their first rodeo; this program has as rich tradition as any in the state…..or at worst close too. If anyone thinks UC now, recently, and historically doesn’t know about clutch and pressure situations they must have been under a rock dating back to when Daddy Sisco and Stanley Caldwell went on they’re run.

 

There is nothing and I mean absolutely nothing that TCA is going to be able to throw at UC, just not going to happen. UC will never flinch.

 

This is a HOME game for UC…..TCA IS NOT going to go into UC and come out with a win, not going to happen. UC has rich tradition and an insane fan base as well. Just like all fan bases they have the crazies too. I would also point out little Sisco could care less, he will not he hesitant at all to put the hammer down on TCA and run them out of the gym.

 

People can believe what they want to, nothing wrong with that at all. For me, this is a rather easy one to pick. Nothing against TCA but they aren’t on the same planet as UC. That’s just the way it is. UC plays in the toughest single A district in the state. As always its seems, the district is so tough the region championship is usually two teams from the same district, just like this year UC/Humboldt.

 

It’s always helpful to be mindful single A is the lowest level in the state. I just point this out as a reminder these are not dominant AA/AAA. However, UC is one of the few single A programs that could consistently win and sometimes win big at a higher level. TCA is not now and has never been that kind of program. TCA had a good season but far from dominant, and we are talking single A here. UC had as dominant season as you’ll find at this level (and no they are not on the same planet as the MJ brown team either)

 

I don’t buy the stuff when blanket comments are made about whomever 7th and 8th guy can start for most, who are most? They are 7th and 8th because they are not 1 thru 6 for a reason. Yeah maybe the bottom rung of the ladder types they might start. I saw a guy make a blanket statement not long ago his team had 5 guys average 15 a game or something like that I simply said BS, that doesn’t happen in a 32 minutes game averaged out. If a team has two players at 15 + avg that’s good, 3 is awesome, 5 doesn't happen. I don’t want to hear about anomalies either because anomalies are FAR out of the norm. You know like Tony Delk once averaged 37 a game, or Cannon Whitby 40, or John Jenkins 40…. well how often does that happen when considering every team in every class in every sing  year, what percentage does Delk/Whiteby/Jenkins fall into, maybe 1% of 1% ha-ha    blanket statements are meaningless without number to back them up (even if stats per minute so at least you have something to extrapolate)

 

 

A few things to think about:

 

THIS IS A HOME GAME FOR UC, A DOMINANT SINGLE A TEAM THIS YEAR. Union City margins are absolutely impressive; remember high school is a 32 minute game so when you are basically on balance destroying 2/3rd of your opponents by +20 well enough said on that front. Then to think your last 10 is by +27.

 

Not to mention the out of district schedule far superior to TCA and playing in a rock solid district that is also far superior to TCA.

 

 

 

UC 30-3 average pts for 71.2 against 49.3 (avg margin 21.9 for a 33 game schedule)

TCA 25-9 average pts for 57.1 against 49.3 (avg margin 7.8 for a 34 game schedule)

 

 

LAST 10 GAMES, TO INCLUDE DISTRIC AND REGION PLAY

UC 10-0 average pts for 78.6 against 51.5 (margin 27.1)

TCA 9-1 average pts for 62.1 against 48.3 (margin 13.8)

 

 

 

TOP OTHER TWO TEAMS IN EACH DISTRICT (record to include post season) I would submit Humboldt and Halls are absolutely equals to Middleton and Adamsville, most likely better but that’s just an opinion based on many factors.

 

Union City record against the Humboldt and Halls 7-0 avg pts for 73.8 against 48 (avg margin 25.8)

 

TCS record against Middleton and Adamsville 4-2 avg pts for 54.6 against 52.8 (avg margin 1.8)

 

 

 

The out of district schedules are simply no comparison, UC had a far superior out of district schedule.

 

 

The non woodshed games decided by 10 points or less (to include losses)

 

UC 2-3 one loss to a TN team (Jackson SS) U

TCA 10-9

 

The Woodshed wins by 20 or more

UC 20 wins +20

TCA 6 wins +20

 

 

 

I don’t think so but if some of the numbers are off, the deviation would be small and not measurable.

 

 

So for those that think TCA has a legit shot to go into Union City and pull off a stunner I would say good luck on that one. I just don’t see it happening; in fact I think UC might blow out TCA. I might be wrong and if so I have no problem admitting after the fact because after all it’s only a game, not war and peace ya know.

YOu need to either get a job or stop cheating your employer by spending 4 hours researching HS basketball stats.  IT's really hard for me to argue with ignorance.  We will just have to wait and see how it plays out on Tuesday.  I'm sure TCA is just going to lay down and let UC crush them because they haven't played any competition.

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To yankee8589 that was impressive statements. I figure somebody like Trinity will have a comeback or rash verbal defend of Trinity team IMO there no comeback to your statements except for Trinity got heart and play hard and seem to believe in one another. No argument that if they do beat Union City at Union City it's fluke but it'll be March 3 and they don't call it March Madness for nothing

Now help me jog my memory............who is Riverside playing on Tuesday night?  Oh, that's Monday night BUT that's the girls team and they are very, very good I might add!  They gave Middleton all they wanted last night.

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