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Then the big 6A public schools could not hide from the D2AA schools and they would be forced to play each other. Crowds would be insane and gates would raise huge profit as well as great football. But public schools would probably boycott football or something crazy lol

When I was in high school we would play MBA and and Father Ryan win every year. That's ridiculous to say big 6A teams are hiding from the privates. It's different now. There's not a level playing field. Private schools recruit. Public schools cannot. Private schools cherry pick talent especially in metropolitan areas. Further school choice advocates will make it even worse. Public school dollars will be siphoned away if they pass vouchers, and privates will have even more of an advantage. Privates do not have to adhere to the same rules as publics academically or athletically.

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When I was in high school we would play MBA and and Father Ryan win every year. That's ridiculous to say big 6A teams are hiding from the privates. It's different now. There's not a level playing field. Private schools recruit. Public schools cannot. Private schools cherry pick talent especially in metropolitan areas. Further school choice advocates will make it even worse. Public school dollars will be siphoned away if they pass vouchers, and privates will have even more of an advantage. Privates do not have to adhere to the same rules as publics academically or athletically.

I don't buy into the whole "publics run from privates" thing either. Honestly, publics have no incentive to play many of the privates, especially with how regions have been. Why would a 6A school want to play 7-8 tough region games each year then fill their remaining 2-3 games with another extremely tough team against a top private school? I get that we as fans would love it and it would make for great matchups, but the ultimate goal for teams is to win a state championship. 15 football games is a TON for a high school athlete to play in one season. Coaches have to make sure their players are put in position to be ready in December and, honestly, a couple "cupcake games" helps to accomplish that.

 

As for the whole "publics can't recruit" thing, I don't know how it is statewide, but I do know that here in Memphis, public schools actively recruit athletes just as much or more as the private schools. It definitely happens at both levels.

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This would have been a good year to lower Division I to five classes, with most of the private schools in it going to Division II. Plus Division II didn't need three classes. Seven total would have gone over much better.

 

If there's ever movement by private schools to get back in, probably by legal means, they should look at 7 classes total. Divide them all equal without multiplier. Schools in metro counties go up one class regardless. Private schools in rural counties go up one class. Private schools in metro counties go up two classes. Your schools like Brentwood Academy would surely play in "7A."

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What about 3 public classes, just like basketball, baseball, etc. and then 1 class for privates?  Other states do some similar to what Tenn. did the last 2 years.  I looked it up and Ga. took the largest 45 schools and put them in a class, then took the smallest 80-90 schools and put them in a class but called it, something like class A large/public and class A small/private.  I think the other classes were divided equally.  Guess the public & privates plat together in all classes except A.  I think their is also a private school league in Ga., all though not positive.

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I don't think you will ever see such a drop in football classes again, it's been 24 years since the move to five classes. I can see a drop to five from six if this doesn't work well with travel and matchups, and I think they will look harder at four classes in basketball, baseball and softball. It seemed to get overlooked with all the discussion on schools moving to Division II and the class shakesups after it.

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Cut it to 7 classes. Division I, rural and no private schools, since that has always seemed to be an argument (open zones, privates) Yes, some rural schools don't have hard zones but usually the distance for one school to another makes it harder. I cut it at 1,200 since anything above that would stretch the enrollment gap too much, plus the largest rural schools ought to have enough players in the school anyway. Division II, urban schools including private schools-I used, without looking things up, Memphis, Nashville, Clarksville, Chattanooga, Jackson, Knoxville, Kingsport-Johnson City, and their counties so things could be off a bit. 1.5 multiplier for private schools. One of the best things, each class would have about 48 teams. Easy way to do it with 8 regions in each.

 

Yes, just a wild projection, but I bet this would work.

 

Division I: Rural Public, 1,200 and below, 143 teams, 3 classes, 48, 48, 47

Class 1A-

Gleason 166

Greenfield 176

Coalfield 180

Sunbright 183

Oakdale 183

Hollow Rock-Bruceton 184

Red Boiling Springs 204

Lake Co. 223

Pickett Co. 226

Copper Basin 228

Cloudland 233

Greenback 234

South Fulton 235

South Pittsburg 240

Midway 272

Huntland 272

Moore Co. 275

Humboldt 282

Collinwood 284

Clay Co. 287

Wayne Co. 309

West Carroll 311

McEwen 311

Hancock Co. 315

Whitwell 321

Cornersville 321

Middleton 323

Gordonsville, 327

Huntingdon 330

Jellico 331

Perry Co. 334

Fayetteville 336

Oliver Springs 341

Unaka 341

Jo Byrns 349

Monterey 352

Mt. Pleasant 353

Dresden 362

Harriman 373

Richland 375

Trousdale Co. 388

Peabody 389

Cosby 391

North Greene 400

Oneida 410

Wartburg 414

East Robertson 416

Houston Co. 418

 

Class 2A

Hampton 421

McKenzie 432

Rockwood 435

Eagleville 437

Halls 443

Jackson Co. 449

Summertown 454

Tellico Plains 458

Union City 463

Gibson Co. 480

Cascade 492

Loretto 494

Scotts Hill 499

Hickman Co. 499

Lewis Co. 500

Community 509

South Greene 510

Meigs Co. 517

Marion Co. 517

Westmoreland 525

Riverside 525

East Hickman 526

Bledsoe Co. 533

Watertown 537

Happy Valley 541

Forrest 547

Polk Co. 547

Cumberland Gap 554

Adamsville 556

Waverly Central 556

Gatlinburg-Pittman 560

Harpeth 574

Cannon Co. 583

York 592

Smith Co. 605

Camden 614

Chuckey-Doak 618

Sweetwater 618

Westview 619

West Greene 621

Grundy Co. 623

Milan 633

Johnson Co. 638

White House Heritage 673

Stewart Co. 675

Cheatham Co. 682

Sequatchie Co. 693

Kingston 708

 

Class 3A

Fairview 710

Loudon 734

McMinn Central 738

Pigeon Forge 741

Northview Academy 743

Claiborne 749

Upperman 753

South Gibson Co. 779

Bolivar Central 785

Unicoi Co. 796

Scott 806

McNairy Central 807

Elizabethton 819

Giles Co. 820

Covington 821

Greenbrier 833

Dyersburg 834

Union Co. 850

DeKalb Co. 856

Crockett Co. 859

Ripley 860

Fayette-Ware 861

White House 874

Livingston Acad. 876

Haywood 889

Obion Co. Central 900

Marshall Co. 902

Greeneville 913

Grainger 918

Chester Co. 918

Millington Central 940

Lexington 965

Macon Co. 967

Cumberland Co. 1,000

Sequoyah 1,033

Tullahoma 1,042

Spring Hill 1,053

Hardin Co. 1,060

Stone Memorial 1,061

Springfield 1,081

Lawrence Co. 1,082

Sevier Co. 1,119

Volunteer 1,152

Cherokee 1,161

Cocke Co. 1,177

White Co. 1,184

Lenoir City 1,192

 

 

Division II: All Private Schools, Rural Public Schools over 1,200, and all Urban Schools. Private schools all receive 1.5 multiplier

 

I moved up a few that I figured would move up, Memphis East then McCallie, Ensworth, etc.

 

196 teams, four classes, 49 in each

 

Class 1A:

KIPP 164

Lookout Valley 172

Rossville Christian 117 x 1.5=176

Zion Christian 127 x 1.5=191

Chattanooga Grace Baptist Academy 135 x 1.5=203

Ezell-Harding 154 x 1.5=231

Mt. Juliet Christian 162 x 1.5=243

The King's Academy 179 x 1.5=269

Grace Christian Academy – Franklin-180 x 1.5=270

Memphis Catholic 186 x 1.5=279

Sale Creek 295

Concord Christian 197 x 1.5=296

Tipton-Rosemark 197 x 1.5=296

Memphis Middle College 299

Fayette Academy 205 x 1.5=308

Hillcrest 311

Westwood 312

DCA 209 x 1.5=314

Friendship Christian 211 x 1.5=317

Nashville Christian 213 x 1.5=320

B. T. Washington, 328

Davidson Academy 223 x 1.5=335

Middle Tennessee Christian 235 x 1.5=353

Jackson Christian 236 x 1.5=354

Clarksville Academy 240 x 1.5=360

Republic 361

Oakhaven 366

Trinity 250 x 1.5 = 375

Fairley 384

FRA 266 x 1.5 = 399

Columbia Academy 271 x 1.5=407

Silverdale Baptist 279 x 1.5 =419

Boyd-Buchanan 292 x 1.5=438

MAHS 444

Northpoint Christian 297 x 1.5=446

First Assembly 305 x 1.5=458

Goodpasture 311 x 1.5 =467

USJ 312 x 1.5 x 1.5=468

Grace Christian - Knoxville 316 x 1.5=474

Manassas 476

Frederick Douglass 484

Harding Academy 327 x 1.5=491

Sullivan North 492

Mitchell 508

Tyner Academy 525

Hamilton 541

BGA 364 x 1.5=546

 

Class 2A

Evangelical Christian 365 x 1.5=548

Lausanne 365 x 1.5=548

Melrose 574

Brainerd 574

St. George's 389 x 1.5=584

CAK 400 x 1.5=600

Notre Dame 419 x 1.5=629

Trezevant 615

Raleigh Egypt 620

Austin-East 624

Signal Mountain 638

Martin Luther King, Jr. 641

Pearl-Cohn 643

Alcoa 646

Whites Creek 659

Stratford 668

Knoxville Webb 449 x 1.5=674

CPA 449 x 1.5=674

Chattanooga Christian 458 x 1.5=687

Sheffield 721

East Nashville 750

Sycamore 760

Lipscomb 518 x 1.5=777

Red Bank 785

Wooddale 808

East Ridge 827

Pope John Paul II 556 x 1.5=834

Howard 839

Briarcrest 573 x 1.5=860

Sullivan South 887

Sullivan Central 897

Craigmont 909

Jackson South Side 917

Maplewood 919

Knoxville Catholic 619x1.5=929

Carter 930

Chattanooga Central 936

Hixson 941

Sullivan East 941

Nolensville 942

Jackson North Side 960

Creek Wood 986

Fulton 987

Gibbs 1,009

East Hamilton 1,038

Anderson Co. 1,060

Kirby 1,067

Montgomery Central 1,077

Hillwood 1,103

 

Class 3A

Memphis East 494 (moved up)

Clinton 1,105

Knoxville Central 1,106

Page 1,123

Beech 1,139

South Doyle 1,155

Kenwood 1,163

Memphis-Overton 1,184

Tennessee 1,190

Ridgeway 1,200

Lincoln Co. 1,207

Dyer Co. 1,216

Soddy-Daisy 1,217

Karns 1,233

Hillsboro 1,238

Knoxville Halls 1,245

Munford 1,247

David Crockett 1,247

Kingsbury 1,252

Glencliff 1,275

Northwest 1,291

Daniel Boone 1,314

Bolton 1,326

Columbia 1,333

Powell 1,346

West 1,355

Brighton 1,364

Clarksville 1,364

Henry Co. 1,368

Shelbyville 1,370

Campbell Co. 1,385

Northeast 1,385

Oak Ridge 1,387

West Creek 1,404

Summit 1,406

Walker Valley 1,411

Hunters Lane 1,422

Franklin Co. 1,447

Morristown East 1,472

Rhea County 1,489

Southwind 1,496

Gallatin 1,508

Dickson Co. 1,519

Hendersonville 1,531

Ooltewah 1,537

Cleveland 1,546

Morristown West 1,551

Memphis Central 1,552

McMinn Co. 1,556

 

Class 4A

Ensworth 463 x 1.5=695 (moved up)

Brentwood Academy 497 x 1.5=746 (moved up)

Baylor School 721 x 1.5=1082 (moved up)

St. Benedict 763 x 1.5=1145 (moved up)

MUS 874 x 1.5=1311(moved up)

Father Ryan 912 x 1.5=1368 (moved up)

McCallie 1316 (moved up)

MBA 1030 x 1.5=1545

Heritage 1,559

Rossview 1,611

Cane Ridge 1,646

Centennial 1,667

Independence 1,677

Maryville 1,684

Bradley Central 1,705

Coffee Co. 1,733

Farragut 1,734

Whitehaven 1,738

Franklin 1,745

Brentwood 1,754

Station Camp 1,756

Ravenwood 1,772

Siegel 1,782

LaVergne 1,813

William Blount 1,818

Smyrna 1,857

Houston 1,865

Wilson Central 1,876

Lebanon 1,905

Overton 1,907

Antioch 1,993

Riverdale 2,020

Germantown 2,027

Hardin Valley 2,035

Arlington 2,042

Warren Co. 2,053

Bearden 2,063

Stewarts Creek 2,109

Mt. Juliet 2,145

White Station 2,155

Oakland 2,173

Blackman 2,175

Jefferson Co. 2,185

Cookeville 2,203

Dobyns Bennett 2,208

Science Hill 2,248

McGavock 2,266

Cordova 2,267

Collierville 2,372

Bartlett 2,513

Christian Brothers 1776 x 1.5=2664

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Cut it to 7 classes. Division I, rural and no private schools, since that has always seemed to be an argument (open zones, privates) Yes, some rural schools don't have hard zones but usually the distance for one school to another makes it harder. I cut it at 1,200 since anything above that would stretch the enrollment gap too much, plus the largest rural schools ought to have enough players in the school anyway. Division II, urban schools including private schools-I used, without looking things up, Memphis, Nashville, Clarksville, Chattanooga, Jackson, Knoxville, Kingsport-Johnson City, and their counties so things could be off a bit. 1.5 multiplier for private schools. One of the best things, each class would have about 48 teams. Easy way to do it with 8 regions in each.

 

Yes, just a wild projection, but I bet this would work.

 

Division I: Rural Public, 1,200 and below, 143 teams, 3 classes, 48, 48, 47

Class 1A-

Gleason 166

Greenfield 176

Coalfield 180

Sunbright 183

Oakdale 183

Hollow Rock-Bruceton 184

Red Boiling Springs 204

Lake Co. 223

Pickett Co. 226

Copper Basin 228

Cloudland 233

Greenback 234

South Fulton 235

South Pittsburg 240

Midway 272

Huntland 272

Moore Co. 275

Humboldt 282

Collinwood 284

Clay Co. 287

Wayne Co. 309

West Carroll 311

McEwen 311

Hancock Co. 315

Whitwell 321

Cornersville 321

Middleton 323

Gordonsville, 327

Huntingdon 330

Jellico 331

Perry Co. 334

Fayetteville 336

Oliver Springs 341

Unaka 341

Jo Byrns 349

Monterey 352

Mt. Pleasant 353

Dresden 362

Harriman 373

Richland 375

Trousdale Co. 388

Peabody 389

Cosby 391

North Greene 400

Oneida 410

Wartburg 414

East Robertson 416

Houston Co. 418

 

Class 2A

Hampton 421

McKenzie 432

Rockwood 435

Eagleville 437

Halls 443

Jackson Co. 449

Summertown 454

Tellico Plains 458

Union City 463

Gibson Co. 480

Cascade 492

Loretto 494

Scotts Hill 499

Hickman Co. 499

Lewis Co. 500

Community 509

South Greene 510

Meigs Co. 517

Marion Co. 517

Westmoreland 525

Riverside 525

East Hickman 526

Bledsoe Co. 533

Watertown 537

Happy Valley 541

Forrest 547

Polk Co. 547

Cumberland Gap 554

Adamsville 556

Waverly Central 556

Gatlinburg-Pittman 560

Harpeth 574

Cannon Co. 583

York 592

Smith Co. 605

Camden 614

Chuckey-Doak 618

Sweetwater 618

Westview 619

West Greene 621

Grundy Co. 623

Milan 633

Johnson Co. 638

White House Heritage 673

Stewart Co. 675

Cheatham Co. 682

Sequatchie Co. 693

Kingston 708

 

Class 3A

Fairview 710

Loudon 734

McMinn Central 738

Pigeon Forge 741

Northview Academy 743

Claiborne 749

Upperman 753

South Gibson Co. 779

Bolivar Central 785

Unicoi Co. 796

Scott 806

McNairy Central 807

Elizabethton 819

Giles Co. 820

Covington 821

Greenbrier 833

Dyersburg 834

Union Co. 850

DeKalb Co. 856

Crockett Co. 859

Ripley 860

Fayette-Ware 861

White House 874

Livingston Acad. 876

Haywood 889

Obion Co. Central 900

Marshall Co. 902

Greeneville 913

Grainger 918

Chester Co. 918

Millington Central 940

Lexington 965

Macon Co. 967

Cumberland Co. 1,000

Sequoyah 1,033

Tullahoma 1,042

Spring Hill 1,053

Hardin Co. 1,060

Stone Memorial 1,061

Springfield 1,081

Lawrence Co. 1,082

Sevier Co. 1,119

Volunteer 1,152

Cherokee 1,161

Cocke Co. 1,177

White Co. 1,184

Lenoir City 1,192

 

 

Division II: All Private Schools, Rural Public Schools over 1,200, and all Urban Schools. Private schools all receive 1.5 multiplier

 

I moved up a few that I figured would move up, Memphis East then McCallie, Ensworth, etc.

 

196 teams, four classes, 49 in each

 

Class 1A:

KIPP 164

Lookout Valley 172

Rossville Christian 117 x 1.5=176

Zion Christian 127 x 1.5=191

Chattanooga Grace Baptist Academy 135 x 1.5=203

Ezell-Harding 154 x 1.5=231

Mt. Juliet Christian 162 x 1.5=243

The King's Academy 179 x 1.5=269

Grace Christian Academy – Franklin-180 x 1.5=270

Memphis Catholic 186 x 1.5=279

Sale Creek 295

Concord Christian 197 x 1.5=296

Tipton-Rosemark 197 x 1.5=296

Memphis Middle College 299

Fayette Academy 205 x 1.5=308

Hillcrest 311

Westwood 312

DCA 209 x 1.5=314

Friendship Christian 211 x 1.5=317

Nashville Christian 213 x 1.5=320

B. T. Washington, 328

Davidson Academy 223 x 1.5=335

Middle Tennessee Christian 235 x 1.5=353

Jackson Christian 236 x 1.5=354

Clarksville Academy 240 x 1.5=360

Republic 361

Oakhaven 366

Trinity 250 x 1.5 = 375

Fairley 384

FRA 266 x 1.5 = 399

Columbia Academy 271 x 1.5=407

Silverdale Baptist 279 x 1.5 =419

Boyd-Buchanan 292 x 1.5=438

MAHS 444

Northpoint Christian 297 x 1.5=446

First Assembly 305 x 1.5=458

Goodpasture 311 x 1.5 =467

USJ 312 x 1.5 x 1.5=468

Grace Christian - Knoxville 316 x 1.5=474

Manassas 476

Frederick Douglass 484

Harding Academy 327 x 1.5=491

Sullivan North 492

Mitchell 508

Tyner Academy 525

Hamilton 541

BGA 364 x 1.5=546

 

Class 2A

Evangelical Christian 365 x 1.5=548

Lausanne 365 x 1.5=548

Melrose 574

Brainerd 574

St. George's 389 x 1.5=584

CAK 400 x 1.5=600

Notre Dame 419 x 1.5=629

Trezevant 615

Raleigh Egypt 620

Austin-East 624

Signal Mountain 638

Martin Luther King, Jr. 641

Pearl-Cohn 643

Alcoa 646

Whites Creek 659

Stratford 668

Knoxville Webb 449 x 1.5=674

CPA 449 x 1.5=674

Chattanooga Christian 458 x 1.5=687

Sheffield 721

East Nashville 750

Sycamore 760

Lipscomb 518 x 1.5=777

Red Bank 785

Wooddale 808

East Ridge 827

Pope John Paul II 556 x 1.5=834

Howard 839

Briarcrest 573 x 1.5=860

Sullivan South 887

Sullivan Central 897

Craigmont 909

Jackson South Side 917

Maplewood 919

Knoxville Catholic 619x1.5=929

Carter 930

Chattanooga Central 936

Hixson 941

Sullivan East 941

Nolensville 942

Jackson North Side 960

Creek Wood 986

Fulton 987

Gibbs 1,009

East Hamilton 1,038

Anderson Co. 1,060

Kirby 1,067

Montgomery Central 1,077

Hillwood 1,103

 

Class 3A

Memphis East 494 (moved up)

Clinton 1,105

Knoxville Central 1,106

Page 1,123

Beech 1,139

South Doyle 1,155

Kenwood 1,163

Memphis-Overton 1,184

Tennessee 1,190

Ridgeway 1,200

Lincoln Co. 1,207

Dyer Co. 1,216

Soddy-Daisy 1,217

Karns 1,233

Hillsboro 1,238

Knoxville Halls 1,245

Munford 1,247

David Crockett 1,247

Kingsbury 1,252

Glencliff 1,275

Northwest 1,291

Daniel Boone 1,314

Bolton 1,326

Columbia 1,333

Powell 1,346

West 1,355

Brighton 1,364

Clarksville 1,364

Henry Co. 1,368

Shelbyville 1,370

Campbell Co. 1,385

Northeast 1,385

Oak Ridge 1,387

West Creek 1,404

Summit 1,406

Walker Valley 1,411

Hunters Lane 1,422

Franklin Co. 1,447

Morristown East 1,472

Rhea County 1,489

Southwind 1,496

Gallatin 1,508

Dickson Co. 1,519

Hendersonville 1,531

Ooltewah 1,537

Cleveland 1,546

Morristown West 1,551

Memphis Central 1,552

McMinn Co. 1,556

 

Class 4A

Ensworth 463 x 1.5=695 (moved up)

Brentwood Academy 497 x 1.5=746 (moved up)

Baylor School 721 x 1.5=1082 (moved up)

St. Benedict 763 x 1.5=1145 (moved up)

MUS 874 x 1.5=1311(moved up)

Father Ryan 912 x 1.5=1368 (moved up)

McCallie 1316 (moved up)

MBA 1030 x 1.5=1545

Heritage 1,559

Rossview 1,611

Cane Ridge 1,646

Centennial 1,667

Independence 1,677

Maryville 1,684

Bradley Central 1,705

Coffee Co. 1,733

Farragut 1,734

Whitehaven 1,738

Franklin 1,745

Brentwood 1,754

Station Camp 1,756

Ravenwood 1,772

Siegel 1,782

LaVergne 1,813

William Blount 1,818

Smyrna 1,857

Houston 1,865

Wilson Central 1,876

Lebanon 1,905

Overton 1,907

Antioch 1,993

Riverdale 2,020

Germantown 2,027

Hardin Valley 2,035

Arlington 2,042

Warren Co. 2,053

Bearden 2,063

Stewarts Creek 2,109

Mt. Juliet 2,145

White Station 2,155

Oakland 2,173

Blackman 2,175

Jefferson Co. 2,185

Cookeville 2,203

Dobyns Bennett 2,208

Science Hill 2,248

McGavock 2,266

Cordova 2,267

Collierville 2,372

Bartlett 2,513

Christian Brothers 1776 x 1.5=2664

I really really like this idea, and it's a shame that nothing similar will never happen. I think at this point, we're too far into the public-private split to go back. I think something like this makes way too much sense for the TSSAA to actually consider. It would make for competitive regular season and playoff matchups that would be good for everyone.

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There would have to be an examination of what qualifies a school as rural or urban. In my view all schools in an urban county like Hamilton should be urban even if on the edge. A few years ago they threw out an urban/rural split idea just for conversation purposes and too many metro schools were listed rural just because their physical location had low population density. And maybe a few blocks away in another zip code the population was more dense.

 

My guess those most opposed to this would be the large urban publics. I would still like to see a vote of atheltic directors.

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    • Way late on this post, but I do believe that I want to at least weight in so to speak lol. I wrestled NAIA competed against some of the best wrestler over all a crossed the divisions and felt great about my college wrestling experience. I think people make the mistake in believe that wrestling some how gets easier as a sport at the smaller college divisions it doesn't the training is mostly the same. I have that on good authority from a coach who was a D1 all-American. it's more the commitment level of the competitors that is different. There is talented wrestlers that can go D1 at any level in the smaller division. sub in Sammy Shires for one he would have done fine on a DI team. He chose a work life ratio that suited him. It's not about talent it's commitment are you going to make training and studying the sport the center of your world cause that's what it takes: NO MATTER HOW TALATENTED BEFORE HAND YOU ARE.  If so then D1 is for you and striving for success at that level is for you like Mr. Palmer said it's what your willing to put in. Now coaches if you have a successful wrestler who fits that bill then by all means D1 is a great option they will see some success no matter how small, but if they are not that committed along with being talented and a killer and you know it then your doing them wrong.  You don't have to tell athletes that you don't think they are D1 tell them to keep their options open to take all their visits to consider all the divisions regardless of their goals. college recruiting visits have you most times wrestle against their current wrestlers coaches and athletes  will find out real quick it's not easy no matter where you go. That way when they make their decision it's a sound one that's based on well rounded experiences.     BobCorker, and oceansize42 I believe what you are thinking is correct but for different reasons. TN wrestler's have the talent... it's a commitment level change. TN wrestlers aren't used to having to put themselves through the level of commitment required and kills them on the D1 level.    WrestlingGod, I agree you should push kids to pursue their dreams, but not at the cost of common sense period... we have to much of that going around this country already. Dreams can turn to poison when these wrestler are not educated on what it truly takes. In TN  a kid who understands wrestling to a high level can be successful with small amounts of hard work. They think their definition of hard work is enough for D1 that is the mistake not the "talent/understanding".  Over-all though we do not celebrate NAIA,D2,D3, or Juco success in this state like other states do. GA/AL celebrates all it's college wrestlers success a crossed the  board no matter the division. Why? because it's hard... I have gone to all the divisions National championships let me tell you to be a all-American at any is impressive especially D2 or NAIA. those guys can scrap and not one of those AA's are an easy match. all of them were state placers or champs multiple times in their high school careers. does that at all sound easy to place at? TN does not give those guys enough credit or shout outs period. it's an over sight because of this D1 or it's less than meaningless   mentality on this site and in this state. GA/AL is better then us on the highest stage because they send guys to D2,NAIA,D3 ect. they come back understanding the sport better then their pervious coaches, and give back and that cycles to athletes readiness to go D1 with clearer understanding of what it takes to be competitive day 1 freshman year.             My post isn't to support one way or the other but to just consider that both sides have merit and that both work when the system in TN. by system I mean coaches are the better educated on preparing athletes for each level they want and should pursue.        
    • If you think McKenzie could've beat Riverside I have a bridge you might like to buy. 
    • Hate to hear Ricky is heading to the old folk's home!
    • By recruiting, I mean members of a coaching staff are talking to, meeting with, giving tours, to students, and their guardians, that are not zoned for their school.    there’s no way that many non Bearden kids just showed up all at once without being recruited. It can’t be a coincidence that all those kids also went through the middle school all star game your boss puts on every year. 
    • Not sure how I would put it as recruiting perhaps kids trying to better their career by going to a head coach and coaching staff with connections all over college football that gets them the opportunity to go play college football and be coached by a coach with a pretty good track record.
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