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Please be smart in hiring new coach. I have seen many times a job be given to a former pro player with no experience ever as a coach or a teacher. I have never seen one of these hires be successful. I do not understand administration"s thinking when making these decisions. They were great football players,yes, but that does not translate well into coaching. 

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If the winning stats I've seen are correct, The last coach done about as good as is has been there in 45 years .DC has had kids born ,grow up and have their own kids between winning seasons during that time.Somewhere around 5 winning seasons in 45 years.It would be hard to do much worse for the program then they have done in football.A former pro player might excite the kids and bring in a few more out of JC ,never know.I hope for those young men that want to play,the next coach keeps things moving upward and DC can have winning seasons every year.

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Batman devil, no hating going on but coaching football is hard, just like playing professional football is much harder. Although it seems like both skill sets completely over lap they don't really. If my kid was going to have brain surgery I would try to get the best doctor ou there with as much experience as possible, if I could I would try to avoid the new medical doctor that just passed medical school. Sure, r both doctors, yes, but the amount of experience is vastly different. I am not trying to relate football to brain surgery but even hiring a new football I would hire the best one in the group that gives the school the best chance to win. A great name is awesome to have and it does excite people for a little while, but it fades fast, especially if winning does not follow it. Like in most jobs, people have to earn their way, like u at your job at me at mine. I certainly did not start out at the top but through years of practice and apprenticeship I have gotten better. Imagine if your boss walked in tomorrow and gave someone with a big name your job. Would you b happy, content to take orders from the new guy? I doubt you would

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I will say one name as an example and  I doubt we would argue guys. Peyton Manning calls and says I'll take the DC job if you will give it to me.What coaching has he done ? Kids from 100 miles would transfer to play for this guy who has never held a coaching job .I bet money he would do 10 times the job most of the local coaches with any amount of experience .Some of the local programs play so much politics that they wouldn't fire the below average coach they have in order to make that move.

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I will say one name as an example and  I doubt we would argue guys. Peyton Manning calls and says I'll take the DC job if you will give it to me.What coaching has he done ? Kids from 100 miles would transfer to play for this guy who has never held a coaching job .I bet money he would do 10 times the job most of the local coaches with any amount of experience .Some of the local programs play so much politics that they wouldn't fire the below average coach they have in order to make that move.

 

100 miles??     I'm thinking they would come from all over the state, maybe even NC, GA, VA, etc.

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I will say one name as an example and  I doubt we would argue guys. Peyton Manning calls and says I'll take the DC job if you will give it to me.What coaching has he done ? Kids from 100 miles would transfer to play for this guy who has never held a coaching job .I bet money he would do 10 times the job most of the local coaches with any amount of experience .Some of the local programs play so much politics that they wouldn't fire the below average coach they have in order to make that move.

 

Peyton Manning is an NFL Hall of Famer and one of the most popular professional athletes in America.  That would be like Michael Jordan calling up to be basketball coach.  It's in a whole other level than what's being talked about here.

 

The former NFL player in question had as solid career and was a good athlete, but he's not Peyton Manning.  He doesn't have that kind of name recognition or prestige.

 

Coaching and playing are two different skill sets.  What if Nick Saban quit coaching to go into the construction business.  Would being a good coach and having successful experience managing a team in a different field mean he's the best guy to show up the next day to add a room onto your house or remodel your kitchen?

 

These kinds of hires are typically made by people who don't really understand football, but are dazzled by the mystique of the pro athlete and think he's going to bring some kind of magic with him.  It's not like hiring a coach who played in the NFL is suddenly going to make your team as athletic or as dedicated as he was.  It also doesn't mean he understands the game beyond what is own position was doing on his own teams in his career.

 

I'm not saying the guy will fail if he's given the job.  I wish him success and I hear nothing but good things about him as a man.  But he would have a lot to do in order to be successful that he hasn't done yet.  It's not that he can't do it.  It's that just being a great athlete doesn't mean he can handle all the fundraising, organization, management, discipline, and teaching that goes with being a high school coach.  History shows that when teams hire former NFL players with no experience (that's the key--no coaching experience!) to take over a team based on their playing days, the results can be mixed.

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My point was that it's not out of the question for a former player with no coaching experience to be successful.There are a whole lot of coaches that have zero business coaching at many different levels including high school.I'm not just talking x's and o's. Most of us that have played sports or had kids play sports ,know that. Yes, you want the very best Coach And person over your program and when the coach isn't earning his pay,that's when a change needs to be made.Earning his pay includes winning and being a fair and good person that the players want to play for.There are some great examples and one is at the school I played for .

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Peyton Manning is an NFL Hall of Famer and one of the most popular professional athletes in America.  That would be like Michael Jordan calling up to be basketball coach.  It's in a whole other level than what's being talked about here.

 

The former NFL player in question had as solid career and was a good athlete, but he's not Peyton Manning.  He doesn't have that kind of name recognition or prestige.

 

Coaching and playing are two different skill sets.  What if Nick Saban quit coaching to go into the construction business.  Would being a good coach and having successful experience managing a team in a different field mean he's the best guy to show up the next day to add a room onto your house or remodel your kitchen?

 

These kinds of hires are typically made by people who don't really understand football, but are dazzled by the mystique of the pro athlete and think he's going to bring some kind of magic with him.  It's not like hiring a coach who played in the NFL is suddenly going to make your team as athletic or as dedicated as he was.  It also doesn't mean he understands the game beyond what is own position was doing on his own teams in his career.

 

I'm not saying the guy will fail if he's given the job.  I wish him success and I hear nothing but good things about him as a man.  But he would have a lot to do in order to be successful that he hasn't done yet.  It's not that he can't do it.  It's that just being a great athlete doesn't mean he can handle all the fundraising, organization, management, discipline, and teaching that goes with being a high school coach.  History shows that when teams hire former NFL players with no experience (that's the key--no coaching experience!) to take over a team based on their playing days, the results can be mixed.

 

Sensabaugh will probably be the best coach this side of Greeneville from day one. These coaches around here are really weak. 

 

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