LynxWrestler

I'm curious why you're berating TNKO2 for saying something that I also said in my post, that TJ probably wouldn't have beaten Mang or Johnson. ghouse's point about difference of victory for a common opponent between TJ and Johnson is a good point and definitely makes that matchup closer. However if the competition in DI and DII in the individual tournament are even then winning a 32 man tournament is harder than winning a 16 man tournament. He's still an amazing wrestler to pull what he has, no doubt, but this debate between who's better DI v DII isn't going to end anytime soon. And consolidation won't help either, b/c people will still talk about "Oh, McCallie won 5 individual state titles, but they would have won 8 if it was still DII" or "The finals were basically Bradley and McCallie and Bradley won 4 of 6 finals, so DI must be better." What I'm trying to say is this debate is worthless.

First, there is not way he is NOT a 5 time TN state champion. He lived in TN while competing in TN and won the individual TN state championships 5 times. That argument is stupid since there are people who I wrestled with who are not from TN originally, and I went to a public school. As far as DI v DII championships, I looked at the DI champions every year that Duncan won. My motivation was to see whether he would be a 5 time champ at DI, or if he could beat the DI champ each year. Granted this is an imperfect science and based purely on opinion so everyone has a right to disagree. But in two of Duncan's championships, namely the first two he would have wrestled one David Mang and one Demetrius Johnson, who were both DI Outstanding Wrestler that year if my memory is correct (I know Mang is and I'm 90% sure that Johnson was). The others I think Duncan would have or could have won. Remember that these arguments have no real winner and is just my opinion. I expect many of you to disagree, however he has done alot for his family and school. I wish him, and all other TN wrestlers competing in NCAA or NAIA wrestling, luck in the NCAA's.

Yeah, it was one of the most classless things I've ever seen on the wrestling mat. He took his headgear off and "buried" it at the center of the mat. Since then when I've seen him wrestle, which is few and far between since I didn't wrestle in the Chattanooga area, I didn't see any sort of celebration of that magnitude. Although when I wrestled him in 2008 at a tournament, he only minored me and he would not look at me or my coach when we shook hands. That is not as bad as what he did as an 8th grader, but it still showed poor sportsmanship. Now I am not saying he's a bad person, I was not a teammate or classmate of his. But he is an amazing wrestler to pull what he has, 5 state titles. Granted those championships are in DII, but I have not looked to see if I think he would beat the DI wrestler at each weight. Either way, he is an amazing wrestler who teams can only hope to find once in a generation.

I wasn't referring specifically to your post, but to the general thread. And I am a wrestling fan and a wrestler, and I hated it when my teammates got bad draws when the tournament was a carry-tournament. My point is that double elimination is alot more feasible, as evidenced by Coach Blair's and the rest of Williamson County coaches' hard work, than a complete seeding that makes everyone happy. How would a region champion feel if the guy he beat was seeded ahead of him? Unlikely, but I can see that happening to say a Region 4 or Region 6 wrestler. Odds are I won't be at the Ag Center, but if I was I would be more excited for my alma mater and to see some great wrestling.

Nothing I've read here is new. The debates in the past have been good/bad draws and lack of a double elimination (which has been rectified). Bickering about who got a good draw or a bad draw is pointless and progresses no one forward. Get over yourselves and enjoy the show come Thursday. Good luck to every wrestler in the field.

They do it to circumvent the 5 match rule, b/c sometimes in a 16-man tournament you can run into the 5-match limit. But that's not much different than how the State Individuals are run, with the finals and medal rounds on Saturday. So why the complaints?

Seeding meeting is either Wednesday or Thursday, so you have time to wait. Until then you could speculate as to what some wrestlers will be seeded, but be patient and the brackets will come.

Only thing I have to add is that Ravenwood's mascot is the Raptors, not the Ravens. The 8th graders at Woodland voted on it the year before Ravenwood opened and they picked Raptors over Ravens and Mustangs (your guess is as good as mine for why mustangs was there, doesn't make sense for RHS. Plus David Lipscomb is the Mustangs, but that's another point.). But good showing by RHS at the duals. Next stop is the Individuals for every team.

Sorry to point this out WrestlingGod, but I believe that Indy is 0-4 against Ravenwood the past two years. But each of the three studs from District 12: Franklin, Ravenwood, and Independence, have two studs that no one in the district or the region can beat. RHS has Freeman and Hawthorne, Indy has Cox and Newberg, Franklin has Woods and one other guy whose name escapes me at the moment. Also according to the Tennessean RHS was up 34-3 before they forfeited the rest of the matches since victory was decided, so the score is closer than the match actually was. What does this mean you ask? Ravenwood's fill-ins are better than Indy's fill-ins. End of story. But best of luck in the State Duals. I'd like to see a all Williamson County State Final, even though it may not happen that way for whatever reason.

oh my god...that kid is insane... i'm glad i've graduated. But it's good for him that he has found a calling. Maybe he can transfer to the midstate /roflolk.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":roflolk:" border="0" alt="roflolk.gif" />

dude, I'd go through atleast 15 cones over the course of the tournament. that soft serve is amazing

Final results LynxWrestler : 9 2@140: 13 Cowboy Curtis: 10 so 2@140 wins w/o tiebreakers.

the white ones with INDY on the front are their championship singlets. their regular singlets are gold with Independence on the back.

Simple, pick who wins the finals. 1 pt for each correct answer, Tiebreakers are OW and Best Match 103 MAXWELL over Pitts 112 THOMAS over Gardner 119 BIDDY over Lopez 125 LEWIS over Holley 130 HOOD over Witt 135 GRAHAM over Miller 140 GRADY over Taylor 145 COX over Bishop 152 RIDENOUR over Sinsheimer 160 PROCTOR over Disney 171 YOUNG over Salada 189 CROY over Kennedey 215 ORFOI over White 285 LEONARD over Peters BM 160 Proctor v Disney OW 189 Cameron Croy

I'd just like to congratulate all the Ravenwood wrestlers that had a good showing at state this year. For being a young team they made some significant strides this year. I just feel bad that they all lost before the medal rounds. Good luck next year Raptors!