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JMAVU9193    3
12 minutes ago, K2ruth said:

 Again, no slam on KH, she is awesome, but if OC had the setting, or another hitter to take the heat off of her, I think she is better. 

But you take my point, right? I'm new here, so forgive me if I'm missing something. But Knoxville has extraordinary VB talent for a town of its size, and your statements are extraordinary and should not be taken lightly. It's not just Kayleigh... you could include Niklin, Lily Felts, Meg Mersman, Alex Kirby, or any number of K2 kids who (given your handle) you probably know as well as anyone here. These are elite players.

You have made the point, at least twice in fact, that this particular player is the best best player in the Knoxville area. I'm sure she is a wonderful kid and a very good player who would probably start for any high school in the country. Maybe you are just trying to bring attention to her? If so, in the limited scope of this forum, mission accomplished, and congratulations.

To say any given player is the best player in town, regardless of who it is... that's going to be a tough point to defend. There's just too much talent.

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K2ruth    2

I agree.  OC does not get the attention of the other players but she plays at school where other parents are pretty involved and push their daughters and the coach lets it happen. I love Alex.  All of the players you mention are top tier players except Felts.  We all agree that club has a pecking order that is not always talent driven.  Certain schools fall into the same trap.  A couple of parents at Catholic had a coach removed to get a certain coach in.  This resulted in some maybe undeserved playing time which is sad but it happens.  I just wanted to recognize a top tier player who gets overlooked.

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flyjgray    0

I agree with JMAVU9193 and Felts is definitely top tier. She's played open level club her entire life and played and practiced with all the best in Knoxville and across the US. She committed DI how would that not be top-tier.

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K2ruth    2

Just my opinion.  Certain players play better with great players around them, others make the players around them great.  Cunningham, Kirby the Hames girls are great players that elevate their team.  Felts dad has made sure she was on great teams, but she is not in these other players class.  She is a strong player, but not a special player.  Look at how average her high school team is when not surrounded by stronger players.  If you flipped Felts and OC, Catholic is just an average team that would not make the state tourney.

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TeeterTot    2
2 hours ago, K2ruth said:

I agree.  OC does not get the attention of the other players but she plays at school where other parents are pretty involved and push their daughters and the coach lets it happen. I love Alex.  All of the players you mention are top tier players except Felts.  We all agree that club has a pecking order that is not always talent driven.  Certain schools fall into the same trap.  A couple of parents at Catholic had a coach removed to get a certain coach in.  This resulted in some maybe undeserved playing time which is sad but it happens.  I just wanted to recognize a top tier player who gets overlooked.

K2ruth was called a troll last year by Coach Hames on this board when K2ruth claimed Maryville was the best team in the state.  I've copied and pasted my favorite part where Coach Hames had to create a profile on Coach T just to write this one post.

From Page 6 on the "Maryville State Champions" post:

Let me clear up a few things that have been misrepresented here by K2ruth, who obviously is a troll and knows nothing about me or K2 volleyball club. 1. I am not coaching at Maryville in any way, shape, or form. Never been to a practice, nor do I plan on going. 2. My daughters are also not transferring to Maryville. They will be at Webb where they have been since they were freshmen. 3. We have several High School coaches that coach for us at K2, including my wife Chris. The notion that K2 is somehow anti high school is ridiculous. My wife coaches high school, and both my daughters play high school volleyball. We are proud when any K2 kids have success playing for and representing their school. They don't need to play for me to get "real coaching." Lastly, as a dad of two girls playing high school volleyball, I enjoy reading the predictions and opinions about who is the best, who will win district, state, etc.. on this board. Volleyball is being played on a high level all across the state from Memphis to Knoxville. I don't normally comment on any threads, just read them, but this thread was so far off base I just wanted to set the record straight.

 

J. Hames

K2 Volleyball Club

 

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K2ruth    2

This is sad.  I am a parent of a former K2 player, thus my handle, K2 Truth!  Not a troll.  We did not have the experience we were promised and that is ok.  The politics of club was out of our league.  It's no surprise that ALL of the private schools are coached by K2 coaches, nor is it a surprise that the K2 players are treated differently at these privates.  Not trolling, telling the truth.

Club parents go to the headmaster of the private schools and get the old coaches replaced with K2 coaches,  I fought that battle and lost.  We are happy at Club Unite and I wish K2 well, we made some good friends, and weren't mistreated.

i stand by what I said last year.  If the TSSAA had not changed the rule J would have coached at Maryville, in my opinion.  Let's not beat that dead horse.

do you really think there is a better player in Knoxville than OC, Kirby or the Hames?  Try not to go negative on here with personal attacks.  Let's promote a great report and share opinions in a respectful manner, and not resort to name calling,  we get enough of that on the news!

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knoxvball3    0
On 8/10/2017 at 4:25 PM, K2ruth said:

Catholic has the best player in Knoxville with Cunningham.  They won state last year, lost some great talent, but she is a special talent.  The setting limits her, but if her supporting cast will get her the ball then they could repeat.

Webb is the top team, again, in town.  This should be another easy ride to the state title.  

Farragut without Parker who graduated is not the same team.  It is a shame they didn't win while they had her, I don't see them making a run.  HV may pass them this year.  They don't have a star play like Cunningham, but they are solid.

No one else in town will make any noise.  

If HV had a talent like Cunningham, or if Catholic had a stronger setter or a stronger supporting cast, they would be a lock.  I think Catholic should repeat, HV will need to beat those strong Nashville area teams and I don't know if they can.

Not sure where you're receiving this information, and yes Cunningham is a solid player, but I can list 10-15 elite club players that are just as good or better than Cunningham. Farragut will still do well with Bower (College of Charleston commit). HVA also has 2 D1 commits and several other solid club players. In my opinion, Webb will remain the top team in the area with 3 Division 1 players and their young setter Jenkins. If you have only seen Catholic play thus far, you're in for a surprise when you see the loads of talent coming from the other Knoxville schools. 

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K2ruth    2

In other threads I have stated that Webb is the best team in Knoxville, on that we agree.  I have HV as second.  What I stated earlier was that I thought Webb would win state and that HV will be at state but I don't think they can beat the mid state teams.  I also like Farragut but I think they are behind Webb and HV.  I don't put Catholic in their class, but I think they can repeat as AA champs IF the players around Cunningham can improve over the course of the season.  I'm not really a Catholic fan, more familiar with HV, and would love them to make a run at state and who knows what can happen.  I am just impressed with Cunningham and think that she will have a great season.  I think we are on the same page.

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Volleygirl    0
3 hours ago, K2ruth said:

In other threads I have stated that Webb is the best team in Knoxville, on that we agree.  I have HV as second.  What I stated earlier was that I thought Webb would win state and that HV will be at state but I don't think they can beat the mid state teams.  I also like Farragut but I think they are behind Webb and HV.  I don't put Catholic in their class, but I think they can repeat as AA champs IF the players around Cunningham can improve over the course of the season.  I'm not really a Catholic fan, more familiar with HV, and would love them to make a run at state and who knows what can happen.  I am just impressed with Cunningham and think that she will have a great season.  I think we are on the same page.

The reason that Webb is favored to be the #1 team in the area is because of the Hames, Jenkins and Wallace. Kayleigh and Wallace are strong outside attackers that will both be playing Division 1 ball. Nicklin Hames is the best player in Knoxville, let alone Tennessee, shown by her representing her country on the USA national team. She is followed by freshman setter Jenkins.

On the other hand, Hardin Valley is led by seniors Kirby and Mitchell. Both of them as well will be playing D1 volleyball next year and are sure to make an impact. Mitchell is a great libero and it will be hard for other teams to put balls away with her defense and Kirby's hustle and ability to run a fast-tempo offense. 

Yes Catholic is led by Cunningham, but they also have sophomore hitter Maya Alves to help with their offense. They also have Cassie, a freshman libero, to lead the backrow who played on K2's 14-1 team. 

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BruinBabe    0

Logan Eggleston is the top volleyball player in the state.  She was Gatorade player of the year as a sophomore.  She has led Brentwood to a championship every year and sorry to bust your bubble but the Wood will win again this year.

Why do the Knoxville teams get on here and pump themselves?  Hardin Valley is not a threat to win a championship, neither is Catholic.  HV is too slow and cannot compete in our District.  I got on the school web page and if Cunningham is number 4 then yes, she is very good but other than her they don't have anybody.

As to Webb, you need to measure your tone.  In the last few years they haven't had to play anybody to win a title.  This year more teams will be in their division.

The Wood is coming to Knoxville in a few weeks to play, after I see these teams I will give you more in depth thoughts.  Be aware Logan won't be their she is honoring her USA committee to, and Garrett is out with an injury so you won't be seeing our tournament team.

Finally, J Hames and his underlings need to stay off of this board pushing their "elite" players.  We had two "J's" in Nashville club 15 years ago and they almost killed high school and club volleyball.  It became a huge money grab.  Be wary of self promoters, and if they are putting club coaches in as high school coaches you have started down a bad path.  They WILL play club kids over non club kids.  It took us a decade to calm down.

 

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