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Re: Top 25 A-AA Public Schools

Postby goaliefan » Tue Nov 03, 2009 1:04 pm

somewhere in this debate let's not forget the girl's and their hard work, dedication and focus. all other things aside, they're doing what it takes to be state contenders.

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Re: Top 25 A-AA Public Schools

Postby Chaotic » Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:09 pm

goaliefan wrote:somewhere in this debate let's not forget the girl's and their hard work, dedication and focus. all other things aside, they're doing what it takes to be state contenders.


What are you talking about, thats silly, it has every thing to do with the wealth of the parents, no child or heaven forbid multiple children can succeed without the deep pockets of their parents. You know the money that pays six figures for soccer coaches $1000.01, I think thats six significant figures to coach both boys and girls. Dont forget all that money that makes the private school student athletes, what is the number now, 1.6 times better athletes than those in the public schools. Come on its not about the hard work and dedication by both the student athletes and coaches.

I agree with canes, lets continue to break apart this whole mess until everyone gets a trophy, heck it would really be cheaper for all the schools involved public and private to just go ahead and by every on a trophy and not even mess with training, playing district matches, tournamnets. heck lets just all be winners.

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Re: Top 25 A-AA Public Schools

Postby Canesoverhere » Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:46 pm

Thank you COH (Canesoverhere) Fan #00016. It does sound like someone is absolutely lobbying for another division. Perhaps on the flip side of the player cards we can get a 3D image of the State Cup to provide every player in the State before the season starts.

Big G....Nothing has pleased me more than to see both of my girls work out, train and condition year-round for their sports. All the while the schools cut back PE to zero, the obesity levels in this fine state continues to climb to near leading the nation and we wonder why. BooYahh! Im happy and proud that both of them are in the condition they are and each are very comfortable within their skin.

One last note. I moved to Collierville 18 years ago. If I am not mistaken, there were 9,000 people there. Greeneville will be something to deal with should they take the same path we have traveled.

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Re: Top 25 A-AA Public Schools

Postby ChattanoogaCannon » Wed Nov 04, 2009 7:48 am

The public vs. private debate is a very interesting one. A public high school coach told me this year how difficult is to compete having players that have to go to his school contrasted with schools that have players that choose to attend just for the soccer program. I did not debate with him that the same situation applies to public schools ( I know of one player at Soddy-Daisy whose parents were able to get her in the school to play soccer though she is zoned for Hixson), nor did I debate with him that parents choose private in Chattanooga to get a quality education. The soccer programs are a pleasant bonus.

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Re: Top 25 A-AA Public Schools

Postby Redog » Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:07 am

ChattanoogaCannon wrote:The public vs. private debate is a very interesting one. A public high school coach told me this year how difficult is to compete having players that have to go to his school contrasted with schools that have players that choose to attend just for the soccer program. I did not debate with him that the same situation applies to public schools ( I know of one player at Soddy-Daisy whose parents were able to get her in the school to play soccer though she is zoned for Hixson), nor did I debate with him that parents choose private in Chattanooga to get a quality education. The soccer programs are a pleasant bonus.

That's what the muliplier is for -- the privates -- suposed to make everything equal

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Re: Top 25 A-AA Public Schools

Postby DeKalbsCoachK » Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:41 pm

Rabble Rouser wrote:Interesting.
Curious. Is there a private, parochial or magnate school in the Greenville area?

Dekalbcoach: That stat about only one public school having won a game is stunning.

BTW, what can you tell us about Dyersburg?



Dyersburg, well they have a great center defender and center mid, they are strong and play very aggressive. They will be physical for every ball and know how to finish in the box. Your passing will be very difficult for them to stop. Your speed should beat them on the sides. I really don't know how good their Goal Keeper is because we didn't get to challange her much, the field was terrible and we couldn't use our speed up front. I think ND will win, but Dyersburg will make it a physical match.

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Re: Top 25 A-AA Public Schools

Postby DeKalbsCoachK » Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:56 pm

Why not make all private schools play D2 or AAA? Then you don't need another division, and if the private schools want to play against the publics they can. Besides, most of the A-AA privates in the state tournament could compete with the AAA teams. I'm trying not to complain, but in the past 7 years we have worked hard to build DeKalb Soccer to where is and we keep getting better. However, I don't see us beating ND or CCS to get out of the Region for a very long time, if ever. The fact is, girls come to ND to play soccer and they come to DC because they live in DeKalb County. Look at Livingston, with perhaps the best player they have ever had or ever will have and they were beat 3-0 by CCS.

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Re: Top 25 A-AA Public Schools

Postby Redog » Wed Nov 04, 2009 2:17 pm

DeKalbsCoachK wrote:Why not make all private schools play D2 or AAA? Then you don't need another division, and if the private schools want to play against the publics they can. Besides, most of the A-AA privates in the state tournament could compete with the AAA teams. I'm trying not to complain, but in the past 7 years we have worked hard to build DeKalb Soccer to where is and we keep getting better. However, I don't see us beating ND or CCS to get out of the Region for a very long time, if ever. The fact is, girls come to ND to play soccer and they come to DC because they live in DeKalb County. Look at Livingston, with perhaps the best player they have ever had or ever will have and they were beat 3-0 by CCS.

That's what the T$$AA is trying to do with the multilplier - force privates to D2, and some have. Not all privates want too, or can afford to "give need based money" to those that would qualify. Plus publics have open enrollment schools like Hillsboro in Nashville, they are AAA and have had success in football and girls basketball. Talk to a "zoned" closed enrollment public coach about that issue. Also incuded are magnets/public - they co-op with other high schools and get players from other schools that don't offer a particular sport at a particular magnet. Publics "transfer/co-op" and privates "recruit"

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Re: Top 25 A-AA Public Schools

Postby ChattanoogaCannon » Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:20 pm

DeKalbsCoachK wrote: The fact is, girls come to ND to play soccer and they come to DC because they live in DeKalb County.


Sorry, Coach, but your fact is anything but one. The current coach's predecessors built Notre Dame's soccer program and Coach Jim has continued the tradition with 8 straight appearances in the state tournament. He also has a solid boys' program. Young Catholic kids at St. Jude and OLPH (the two K-8 Catholic schools) know about the tradition and want to continue it. They watch their older brothers and sisters play, and want to be a part of it when they attend, so they train hard, and join good club programs in order to get better. It is called building a program.

I can only speak for this freshman class but I am sure the same story is true for our upper classmen, too. We have 10 freshmen that play soccer. 9 came from St. Jude. 8 of the 10 girls are Catholic. So, to say that girls come to ND to play soccer is simply not true. They know at an early age that they are going to ND, and want to be part of something special. You could so the same thing in Dekalb County. You could build your program up so that young girls, who have no choice as to where to attend high school, will want to be part of something special. When they start playing U9 and U10, they could be dreaming of playing for your team and be motivated to train and get better to crack that starting XI once they reach 9th grade. This is what has happened at ND.

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Re: Top 25 A-AA Public Schools

Postby CHAMPDDS » Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:32 pm

DeKalbsCoachK wrote:Why not make all private schools play D2 or AAA? Then you don't need another division, and if the private schools want to play against the publics they can. Besides, most of the A-AA privates in the state tournament could compete with the AAA teams. I'm trying not to complain, but in the past 7 years we have worked hard to build DeKalb Soccer to where is and we keep getting better. However, I don't see us beating ND or CCS to get out of the Region for a very long time, if ever. The fact is, girls come to ND to play soccer and they come to DC because they live in DeKalb County. Look at Livingston, with perhaps the best player they have ever had or ever will have and they were beat 3-0 by CCS.


Actually, to be honest, I would say the majority, if not all, players at Notre Dame came to Notre Dame because it is the only Catholic high school in Chattanooga...so, the traditional Catholic education, from elementary feeder schools and then to high school, is the factor to go to Notre Dame...and as ChattCannon mentioned, the soccer program is a bonus......one of the two feeder schools here in Chattanooga (St. Jude) has a huge tradition of school soccer, where they start soccer in 5th grade...where we find ourselves (those that help coach) faced with the problem of too many students wanting to play...I have been involved with St Jude soccer for over 7 years now, and this year is no exception, for example the 5/6th grade coed team, with something like 30 kids (out of maybe 70 5/6th graders total) wanting to play soccer.....

So, I would offer the quote that Girls come to Notre Dame, not for the soccer, but because it is the only Catholic school option we have here....that being said...those seeking a private school PLUS soccer option, have many choices here--GPS,BAYLOR, CCS, etc...

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Man, ChattCannon..you type faster than me....

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