True Physical Women's Soccer

by **CHAMPDDS** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:51 pm

Not sure when this was...BYU vs New Mexico....looking forward to the college level of physical play ???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNmPybFK2_o

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by **BigG** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:55 pm

I JUST watched that 5 minutes ago! Man, was that violent. I just can't believe there weren't any red cards!

by **daytime6** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:16 pm

it wasn't just one time either, they were tripping, punching, kicking, and the worst was the hair pull down to the grou

by **mjuhb** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:44 pm

i think they should kick her off the team

also the refs lost control of the game too they should also recieve punishment for not protecting the players

by **BigG** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:25 pm

How can the NCAA not do anything about this?

by **Bean0007** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:50 pm

There is no excuse for what was permitted by the officials. I understand that they can't see everything, but there were multiple incidents throughout the game that needed to be addressed. Also the players need to be held accountable, just as in the Florida Brandon Spikes 'eye poke' incident. Too many sports have become more physical as an excuse for less skill. Basketball is another example. The unforunate fall-out from this is that younger players, including high schoolers, are going to see this and accept it as a way to play unless the coaches and administrators show that 'crime' doesn't pay.

by **Canesoverhere** » Sat Nov 07, 2009 2:15 am

So.....

Do you really think this is the first time this player played like this?

How can professional cameraman who likely never cover a soccer match pick this up (imagine what we didn't see) and four paid officials didin't?

The New Mexico coach kept her in the game.

First, yep. She should be removed from the sport.
Second, the official should have their license revoked, permanently. They failed at their job, miserably. They also should receive some type of monetary penalty.
Finally, the coach should be fired. He saw it and did nothing. I would doubt seriously if this is the first time this player used such antics.

Once again, what didn't we see that took place on that field.

by **soccermom1969** » Sat Nov 07, 2009 5:13 am

The offending New Mexico player, junior defender Elizabeth Lambert, has been suspended indefinitely by The University of New Mexico.
http://www.golobos.com/sports/w-soccer/ ... 09aaa.html

The Mountain West Conference (BYU's conference) has endorsed the penalty.
http://www.themwc.com/sports/w-soccer/s ... 09aab.html

by **socref1** » Sat Nov 07, 2009 3:27 pm

All of you are correct, a nasty hair pull is pretty bad BUT not limited to college. In fact, it happened in our own backyard this season the girls high school season, and NO ONE discussed it on this board. The referee gave the red card and the restart West scored the game winning goal. Here is the play, around 91:55 of the tape, real late in the Powell West Region Semi

http://knoxivi.com/wesths.html

You have to find the West Powell game from the menu.

by **socref1** » Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:55 pm

Canesoverhere wrote:So.....

Do you really think this is the first time this player played like this?

<<probably not. We have an example of a local high school match with similar behavior. Players are passionate, and the passion gets instilled at an early age, unless you think its the Pecos River water that turned her>>

How can professional cameraman who likely never cover a soccer match pick this up (imagine what we didn't see) and four paid officials didin't?

<<This footage was submitted by BYU and probably edited to show only her transgressions>>

The New Mexico coach kept her in the game.

<<as long as the refs did not sanction, there was no need to do any other>>

First, yep. She should be removed from the sport.

<<pretty drastic. Lets think this out for a minute. She loses her scholarship over a very hotly contested match. Then she drops out of college, and works at McDonalds or some servile job all because of one game. >>

Second, the official should have their license revoked, permanently. They failed at their job, miserably. They also should receive some type of monetary penalty.

<<football officials have let worse go. Lets not punish referees unduely. They are hard to come by at that level. To referee at the collegiate level, a person must be one of the top in the area>>

Finally, the coach should be fired. He saw it and did nothing. I would doubt seriously if this is the first time this player used such antics.

<<so fire the coach from his full time job, and displace his family. He probably loses his house and his wife leaves him. His kids grow up in a broken home yet another statistic and possibly maladjusted..yes that is pretty drastic..>>>

Once again, what didn't we see that took place on that field.

<<the other side of the story. There is always one>>

I believe the Mountain West Conference agrees with the sanctions and no further action is needed. Its funny but this is the last game of this season. I am sure they will have Miss Lambert miss a few games next year, but don't count on any of the draconian suggestions mentioned.

Look, no one is condoning what was viewed and not taken care of. However like I said, hairpulling and rough play is unsporting. Go play rugby.