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  1. Thanks everyone for all the kind words. Been a very bad day to be woken up at 5.30 to hear someone on the other line telling me my wife has passed away. I've known for a couple of weeks things were not looking good. I found her Monday Morning unconscoius and called an ambulance and I was told lastnight things were looking much better but she had a heart attack and passed on this morning around 4 a.m. There were many times over the past three years I couldn't go to the ballgames because I didn't want to leave her alone. I know she is in a better place as to be in the pain she has been in the past few years.
    14 points
  2. I think your solution of screaming at the refs from the table most definitely is not the solution lol. it’s the same with any sporting competition. There’s bad calls. It’s just gonna happen. The refs are human and they’re just interpreting the action they see. Losing your mind over it isn’t going to change anything though. all that said, my opinion on the call in the 126 final is that it was the correct call.
    6 points
  3. I will say this much. This is actually a great topic and debate. I have had the benefit of getting to have this discussion with several kids over the years. It isn't a simple debate, nor a simple choice. In my opinion, if you really look at it, I think ocean and a few of the others are actually on to a really good point here. I have coached guys who have gone on to wrestle at all levels (some with a level of success and others who did drop out quickly) of collegiate athletics and some on the international / Olympic ladder. i think it is vitally important for most good coaches to be having the types of conversation that ocean and others are bringing up here with athletes. I recall vividly talking with one of our wrestlers about whether he should move to the OTC or continue wrestling in high school after his sophomore year... that was a lot of conversations about goals, stages of life, what do you want short-term and long-term, etc. Thankfully he had plenty of good people to talk to. Anyone speaking in absolutes here is probably off-base or not thinking very logically. To me, the key question has to be... do you want to continue wrestling or do you have a goal (dream, etc.) of wrestling DI and that is the only thing that will fulfill you. If you want to be successful (starting time, placing, AA, etc.) at whatever level you choose to pursue then you better understand what that is going to entail. If you are going to go and wrestle at the DI level and hope to have true success, then you better be ready to understand that wrestling is going to be treated like a very demanding job. You will need to make just about everything else in life subservient to wrestling and what you have to do there... and yes for many this also includes academics. Many of the DI programs they might get into might not be the perfect fit from other aspects of what they want and they may have to sacrifice (especially if not a top-end recruit) to achieve their DI dream. Very few can balance high level academics and the rigors of a top-end DI wrestling program. If that is the absolute desire for the athlete, then go after it and chase it to your fullest... even if they are one of the ones that aren't likely to "make" it or have high level success based on where they currently are... and yes you can sometimes overcome that, but let's be honest blue-chip recruits will pan out far more often than college coaches develop someone to that level who was far below it. If the athlete doesn't have their heart set on DI or just wants to continue wrestling, then they really should be looking at what level of wrestling will help them find a school that is the right fit for them. They need to be looking at academics, academic curriculum options, graduation job placement rates in their desired field, financial aide packages, wrestling team success and culture, activities / lifestyle they want to pursue outside of school (big city or country, etc.), etc. in order to find a place that will help them thrive and mature into the young person that we all hope they become. Plenty of kids know it is DI only for them while many others find what they are looking for (in all aspects) at DII, DII, NAIA, etc. Nothing wrong with that... they are making the choice that is best for them. A coach that is strictly pushing an athlete to "get into the best (wrestling) program they can" to indirectly quote someone else, may not be giving the athlete the best advice... they may actually be hurting them in the long (and short) run. Coaches are here to guide student athletes to a very tumultuous time in life, not simply make them the best athletes possible and put them in the "best" athletic programs.
    5 points
  4. If you have a problem with reading about other classifications on this board, then skip this post. I don't really care. Happy that Knox County and Stanton Stevens finally got things worked out so he can return to Austin-East. Stanton is a very good football coach, and a terrific human being. I hope he's able to help A-E bring the program back to great success.
    5 points
  5. Brother, there has been good and bad officiating in wrestling for the entirety of its history and always will be. The result can’t be changed after the fact so it does no good to complain about it after you state your case. It was stated and also turned over to our athletic director. After that, it’s out of the coaches and athletes control. The fact that you’re insinuating that we don’t care about our kids is my problem. Go and see who has lost the most amount of team points for disputing the officiating in matches. No one fights harder for their athletes than us. The call was not going to change, so you have two options: (1) spend your time and energy crying about it; or (2) spend your time and energy making sure the match is not that close next time.
    5 points
  6. Well stated sir! That’s because he did want to attack JB. If review was the entire point, there was zero reason to put a coaches response to a bad call on here. And why that one in particular, if not to single him out? I saw a ton of questionable calls and more often than not, failure to make the call. So why just this one, because it’s obviously Bosken.
    4 points
  7. Everything always works itself out!! Not sure what the lineup will look like since that is up the coach's and who wins the wrestle offs. If one of boys doesn't make it so be it, nothing is given and everything is earned in this sport.
    4 points
  8. I never get on here and don’t respond to anything, but I got on here today to make a post about me trying to set up camps and clinics. I saw this and was disappointed and felt like responding. First off, I've seen many of these posts before about talking about how disappointing it is that we don't have a Tennessee All-American almost every year on some sort of social media. Second, almost all of you haven't been a Division 1 All-American or even wrestled Division 1 at all. It was Cody's first year, and he lost two studs. He'll be back and all American, maybe even a couple times, no doubt in my mind. The next thing is, who cares if kids go to Division 1? If they can afford it, why not go chase your dreams? The only thing I'd say is don't go into a crazy debt to wrestle in college because there are other things that are more important in life, but if you can afford it and a D1 team wants it, go for it. It just annoys me when people act like it's an easy thing or all Tennessee guys are a disappointment each year because they weren't an All American when we are battling through so many injuries and I'm destroying my body and can't even stand up before weigh-ins because the weight cut is so hard on my body. Granted, I shouldn't have wrestled at 125 at all, but I'm just using it as an example. We are giving it everything we have, and I'm sure the other Tennessee guys like Cody and Cooper where to. It's just a hard tournament with countless killers in each weight. We should celebrate any TN guy that gets the opportunity to wrestle Division 1 or any level in college because it's most of our dreams to do that, and we are just trying to chase them
    3 points
  9. Do think another thing that has not been mentioned is Loretto, Gibson County, Summertown, Huntingdon and Westview all have been in the same bracket until this year. Loretto, Gibson County, Westview and Summertown have 5 Golds and 4 Silvers in the last 5 or so years. Could be that Loretto is a pretty good basketball program the reason they beat Gatlinburg Pittman. Do think all of the programs I mentioned aren't going anywhere any time in the next couple of years either. York, McMinn Central and Gatlinburg Pittman are great programs too. Do think all of the programs I have mentioned can beat each other on a given day. I watched the Loretto Game live and thoroughly the same night after and Gatlinburg got outplayed especially in the second half. Weathers was attacking the rim big time. She put on a show.
    3 points
  10. Congratulations to all of these Tennessee high school Alumni for having a great college season and for competing at nationals. NAIA Anthony Pyron - Cumberland TN - (National Qualifier) Sammy Shires - Cumberland TN - (All American) Eli Clemmons - Cumberland TN - (National Qualifier) Thomas Williams - Saint Thomas FL - (National Qualifier) Tre Morrisette - Life GA - (National Qualifier) D3 Dejon Glaster - Millikin IL - (All American) NCWA Dominic Love - Florida A&M - (All American) If there are any more wrestlers that I missed please share that on here. I've seen that NJCAA had a qualifier from TN but I couldn't find that individual, and I didn't see any qualifiers at division II. Besides that congratulations to these wrestlers for a great season.
    3 points
  11. Never said it was…? Death eventually comes to everyone. There is no age requirement for death, and it comes in every form. You just have to keep on living. Eventually, when it's your time, you’ll be able to go meet the people you love and have missed so much.
    3 points
  12. This a tough one. I have known "Barn" for over 50 years and when your friends hurt, you hurt. May she rest eternally in the arms of our Savior.....................
    3 points
  13. Haven’t got a big guy… What’s going to happen when they play a team from the west…. PG too small…. Live or Die by 3…. They keep showing up! They keep making huge shots! They play TEAM basketball especially on D! If you haven’t figured it out yet this team is the real deal! Let’s get ONE more!
    3 points
  14. What a season it has been and Micah Hart just won Miss Basketball. So very thankful and blessed. All 3 are ballers that were nominated. Very thankful. So proud of her and all the team. So thankful and blessed.
    3 points
  15. All these pop up ads are ruing this website!
    3 points
  16. I see one pop up and close it out. They haven't been a problem for me. How do you suggest he pay to continue Coacht without the ads? I am sure it isn't cheap to run this site. I will deal with the ads in order to continue having the site.
    3 points
  17. I will say this. Everyone said going in that the quality of basketball in AA was great and yesterday didn’t disappoint. Outside of Bradley central the next 3-4 best teams are in AA.
    3 points
  18. Does it have pictures of Tess and Chloe on it?
    3 points
  19. Anybody noticed Greenfield plays today and "Greenfield Fan" is still posting about these girls? Its state championship week!
    3 points
  20. No that wouldn't help because who wants to play the Gibson County Region or the Upper Cumberland Region every year?? You think that would be fair?? TSSAA is doing a blind draw like they have been. No way they plug in these matchups. Just unlucky if you're not happy.
    3 points
  21. 1) Not watching a podcast with a guy who does fake backyard wrestling as a grown man.....Desselle is only knowledgeable person on it. 2) The match was NEVER recorded on flo. The stream went down. You are a liar, and it's embarrassing.
    3 points
  22. I truly don’t think TSSAA purposely screws teams with the bracket. There is no benefit to TSSAA to putting the best teams on one side of the bracket. They don’t make more money by doing that. I don’t think they’ll ever go back to live draw with coaches in attendance. It was tough on coaches from far east TN and far west TN to drive up for the draw then go home just to drive back a couple days later. However, there is no reason for TSSAA not to livestream the draw to avoid any appearance of dishonesty
    3 points
  23. Please join TSSAA. You too can make a difference.
    3 points
  24. The bottom half of AA is well… let’s just say an easy route for the only decent team GP. Once again.. the “blind” draw is a scam.
    3 points
  25. Yes he does and wins 99% percent of all challenges. No better coach in your corner than that man, he will go to bat for any kid! As a parent and somebody who played sports as well, bad calls are part of the sport but we as parents can't sit around and blame the officials all the time. It's our job to use these as teaching moments and I believe Josh did it right by showing everyone the next day how we should respond. You get back up and go to work!! No need to sit around and complain because nobody has time for it.
    3 points
  26. You clearly no nothing about the sport of wrestling or TSSAA. There is no procedure for overturning the call, there is no protest, there is no video review. Josh went to the head table and fought for his kid. So yeah, “it is was what it is.” It is certainly not “all about winning” for Josh or Joey. They treat all these kids like their own and are deeply invested in their lives. Josh is a fantastic man and father. People like you sit in the stands and have ZERO understanding of the nature of what we do and what coaches put into these kids. That same man you are criticizing from your golden throne had his kid up early the day after state and training to start doing something about not leaving it in the officials hands next year. Those moments Zac experienced are part of the journey and we view them as opportunities to get tougher. It’s ironic that you are criticizing other people’s comprehension and seem to have none. Here is some free advice, next time you want to publicly criticize how a man parents his son, think twice so you don’t sound like an idiot.
    3 points
  27. His son just lost state on a questionable call. I’d say he didn’t feel like shooting the breeze. I saw him at practice the following Tuesday and still wanted to give him space and not speak about it. Bosken is a no excuse type of guy, so “it is what it is” makes perfect sense to me.
    3 points
  28. Apparently there are kids all the way back to 3rd grade waiting to take his place. They won’t even notice he’s gone.
    3 points
  29. From my perch at West High, It would be easier on your part and more satisfying for the rest of us if you would just to have diarrhea on your keyboard. You’re typing into the void about a man who is universally respected by multiple generations and people from all walks of life, and you are who exactly? Someone who posts in an anonymous chat room about high school football? Don’t feel the need to respond to those questions because no one cares about the answers. Regardless if you hate or love Eddie Courtney or that his son was hired to continue the work of that program, all you can ever do is watch as they’re remembered and you’re not.
    2 points
  30. If Insell didn’t have the recruiting machine back in the 80’s, 90’s and early 00’s I wonder how many state titles White County would’ve had?
    2 points
  31. Farragut has been surrounded by four popular private schools for many years (ALL of whom NOW can offer financial assistance) and has lost considerable impact players to them over the years. And, let’s face it, West Knox County kids are the primary resource to populate those private schools. If anything, I believe Eddie kept the football program from completely unraveling by successfully keeping at least some of the more talented kids in the program. Quite simply, in my observation and opinion, Eddie is a very good man and an outstanding mentor for young people; parents and kids respect that. I have every reason to believe Geoff will maintain that environment and mentorship.
    2 points
  32. No words are adequate. Tough, sad stuff. Joining all of you in lifting up Barney and his wife’s family during this difficult time. Hope he feels the prayers, from all of us here on the T & hope he finds at least a small measure of comfort in that.
    2 points
  33. Cavs will be back in 70 years!
    2 points
  34. Indy was cheering for Cookeville because they already played Bartlett this year and lost. Probably didn't want to play them again. Should be a dandy tomorrow: middle tn final. In 4A. So awesome. So proud of CHS. A ball is coming back home with them.... lets make it gold!
    2 points
  35. Well the school was closed down and part of it was because they got caught cheating by the TSSAA so they had to forfeit all of their football championships. I don’t know what they did about basketball, but they should’ve had to forfeit them as well because it was the same group of kids, same group of parents that we’re doing it. I don’t blame the kids at all. I blame the parents and the administration because they knew exactly what they were doing. This school is built in that same mold. They are doing the exact same things that Temple was doing. They are recruiting from all over Chattanooga, Hamilton county even Georgia and anywhere else they can get kids in and then they are playing against division 1 schools. it’s not gonna happen this year probably not next year, but eventually it will come out, and the same thing will happen to this school. It’s an unfair advantage, and that is why they have separate classifications. One for privates and one for public schools. This school is pretending to be a public school but they are operating as a private school when it comes to sports. This coaching carousel they have with the brothers switching places,the personal trainer thing going on, is shady. If it walks like a duck …
    2 points
  36. Thank you coaches, wrestlers and fans who came out to Harpeth High School yesterday. We had 58 schools and clubs represented. I saw to outstanding wrestling from our boys and girls. It was also great to see some old friends and share some great stories. Thanks to the 6 TSSAA officials who were able to come and call the matches for us. Hope to see everyone again real soon.
    2 points
  37. There's a very reasonable explanation for the decrease starting in 2020 and it really has nothing to do with leadership. I don't think here is the place to explain the numbers. Rest assured. I do know.
    2 points
  38. You are speaking on south central. It's embarrassing to watch. I will say they didn't call in favor of the other team it just they are that incompetent. They are the worst in the entire southeast of the United States. They sent a guy to the state tournament last year and he had 36 fouls called in one game. Everyone wants to talk about join TSSAA,.. how about stop allowing any and everybody to join because that is exactly what South Central does and you still can't make chicken salad out of chicken turds. There needs to be legitimate training and classroom sessions for new refs. Stop putting them on big time games until they prove they are ready. The old guys need to be pushed out because they are way too soft when it comes to taking stuff from coaches. Update their court mechanics instead of looking like robots out there and understand basketball is indeed a contact sport. TSSAA has a big issue when it comes to South Central Association and something needs and must be done. They are an embarrassment to the state and the game of basketball.
    2 points
  39. They’ll keep this one in the family.
    2 points
  40. No they didn't, that would be weird, video taping 2 kids that aren't yours. You seem to be a big fake wrestling fan as well....your giving away your identity, be careful.
    2 points
  41. Soo… how many transfers played for Alcoa this year? lol that’s a wonderful story, but you avoided the overall point. Being one of the biggest 3A schools while at the same time having SEVERAL transfers each year has just as much to do with the success as the summer workouts that apparently Alcoa invented according to you. hawkdad approves.
    2 points
  42. Guess I’ll be the A hole here and ask. Why do ya’ll keep saying Black”mon”? Isn’t Black”man” or am I missing something.
    2 points
  43. yes it was, some just can't come to terms that some kids make mistakes and with those come consequences that sometime suck
    2 points
  44. Dodgen seems like a good coach. In the games I have watched it seems like the girls relate to him well. Sometimes the best teams do not make it to the state. Not always the coaches fault.
    2 points
  45. Bradley’s best players are all from Bradley county. The Stovall kid transferred in, but her family has Bradley ties.
    2 points
  46. Getting transfers from all over the state and sometimes different states, particularly the D1 caliber ones is the biggest difference lol. Not like Alcoa works THAT much harder than every other 3A team or that their coaches invented the wheel.
    2 points
  47. You should swing by when they get their rings! It’ll be a full-blown comedy show! I guess you can call Joey and Bosken the Kings of Comedy. #gotjokes
    2 points
  48. Get outta here with this crap man! You wanna call out your own programs coaches, be a man a say to their faces. Not on a public forum behind a screen name. #jokeoftheyear
    2 points
  49. Do they call you turtle because you like to hide in your shell? Last i checked, literally punching someone doesnt win games, in any sport at any level. You are delusional and sound like everyone who fears Alcoa. They don't recruit and there is less than 700 kids in that building. Kids go there because they want to win and the coaching staff does it the right way. By putting time and effort into their kids. All the programs whining about it need to take a long look in the mirror and put in the work necessary to win instead of praying that Alcoa moves up. East Nash didn't complain while pearl cohn and milan ran from the challenge. And i have the utmost respect for that. Every good coach knows that any state championship in 3A worth anything goes through Alcoa and anything less should have an asterisk next to it. What happened to being competitive? If i were a coach i would LOVE the opportunity to coach against a program like that. Some people are just built different i guess…. LOL
    2 points
  50. I think the competition was a little different those years. Has Coach Osovet had to play against Bradley, McMinn, Cleveland, Alcoa. Not quite the same as playing against Cocke County.
    2 points
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