Gatorbill, I absolutely love the tailfeathers comment /roflol.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":roflol:" border="0" alt="roflol.gif" /> That had me rollin'. And I agree, their are a lot of people in the stands that know a lot about basketball and usually those are the ones that aren't yelling those commical sayings to the ref. If I yell, then something is definitely wrong with the way a game is being called. I have yelled maybe 3 times this entire year, at a ref that is...I yell at poor lil sis all the time and luckily she ignores me...lol. I'm not saying that I know all, I've never been a ref...don't wanna be a ref...wouldn't look good in those pants...but I do know basketball and I KNOW the charging calls were wrong BOTH ways. Those calls, to me, cannot be justified in any way.