Not agrue but most we have been involved start at 8 or 9 on Sunday mornings. I just feel that there can be different ways to run tournaments, (the way all high school tournaments are ran, still guarantees 4 games). I appreciate the discussion going on and hope the people in charge of these tournaments are open to some changes also. To me it more about the priorty we are placing on the tournament than where you actually go to church.