Cap, I have not trashed Vannoy in my posts, just posting facts. You've seen 1 game he's played in and met his parents. I also have met them and him, they are great people and he is a great kid BUT as I stated before he needs to start playing under control, taking better shots, and playing defense. I also posted one for sixtonjoseph, this guy is nuts. I have always said Vannoy is a good player but he needs to play under control. If not, the cougars may not win another game,except Battle. As far as Brown goes don't look for his return this yr. He has a severely dislocated arm and may not be back.