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CBG......I'm with you on this one. But I am glad someone didn't inform the private schools in Georgia they were supposed to be better. I'm not as close to sport as I used to be, but I'm thinking Camden County or Collins Hill would still hang with any Tennessee private school.

Sorry durdon. I went the Hixson High....had a nephew state champ at Baylor.....some people used to like to hear about Ga. on this board....since you may wrestle them I had something to do with Collins Hill for a while too.

For some Georgia kids near me..... Nick Stonecheck - Buford - Old Dominion Charlie Darracot - Buford - Stanford Blaine Bergey - Buford - Princeton Garrett Spikes - Mountain View - Georgia (Baseball) - kid could have gone D1 in 3 sports and 4.0 GPA (sorry...I know not wrestling D1)......he pinned Blaine Bergey (above) last year.....quickly.

Ramos' legacy well reflected in packed Collins Hill wrestling room By Christine Troyke christine.troyke@gwinnettdailypost.com Jun 15, 2019 SUWANEE — Cliff Ramos opened practice with some typically dry humor Saturday at the Collins Hill field house named in his honor. “You know, a lot of years I had trouble finding a few heavyweights on the team,” Ramos said. He paused and looked pointedly at more than 75 men — ranging in age from 18 to 60 — sitting in front of him. “That’s not a problem with this team,” Ramos said with a sly grin. The Hall of Fame coach, barely a year removed from being diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, invited many of his former wrestlers to participate in Saturday’s event. It stemmed from comments he’s heard from wrestlers over the years about just wanting to have one more practice. He was also inspired by the book “The Last Lecture,” co-authored by former Carnegie Mellon University professor Randy Pausch. “He was a teacher, like me,” Ramos said. “He was battling pancreatic cancer, like me. The difference was, his was terminal. He didn’t have a lot of time left. I owned some hope with mine. “Those two things together made me think of doing one more practice. For 14 months, I’ve been living with pancreatic cancer and, to be honest, when I found the diagnosis 14 months ago, I didn’t think I’d have much time left.” Ramos had surgery at M.D. Anderson last October and has completed his treatment. “I’m doing pretty well,” he said. “The last month and a half, I started improving a lot. I have some things I’m dealing with, but every day I’m so thankful to God for another day.” Last September, when Collins Hill officially dedicated the wrestling facility to the man who started the terrifically successful program from scratch, Ramos was in the midst of his battle with the disease. Almost 10 months later, his voice rang out with renewed strength. Ramos, who needed to sit for much of the ceremony last year, cranked out 20 pushups with the rest of the group during warmups. By the end, everyone was sweating. They were still laughing, though. Ramos said beforehand he wasn’t going to make it too difficult. “It’s more of a reunion than anything,” he said. “I’m definitely not going to kill them. I’m going to tell them I’m going to, but some of them will be done after we do a pre-practice jog.” Rick White was at Ramos’ first practice as a head coach in 1976 in Butler, Missouri. He said things haven’t changed that much. “My senior year, Cliff was our new coach,” said White, who was sporting a cut over one eye and laughed about it. “It, to me, is an honor, just the short year I had him.” He and Scott Smith, who was a junior that season, flew down from Butler for the event. Many others came from around the Southeast to participate, a few on very short notice. “I think it’s a great testament to Coach Ramos that so many people have made an effort, especially on Father’s Day weekend, to come out,” said Jim Gassman, who wrestled for Ramos at Collins Hill before coaching with him there and later at Mountain View. “Then, to participate in a wrestling practice, it’s one of the hardest things you can do. But he always had good practices.” The bulk of the former wrestlers came from his days at Collins Hill, where Ramos had a dual meet record of 626-80, won nine state team titles and had 34 individual state champions. There were a dozen from Mountain View and Meadowcreek, six from Greater Atlanta Christian, two from East Hall — Ramos’ first job in Georgia — and five from Butler. Both his sons, Trevor and Taylor, participated. As did Ramos’ most famous student, Kyle Maynard. “Back in September of last year, we didn’t know how long he was going to be here,” Trevor Ramos said. “Judging by the statistics and what you hear, knowing what the prognosis was, we didn’t know how much more time we had to spend with our dad. It’s just been an answer to prayer that he’s still here and all the glory goes to God. “It’s amazing to see this wrestling family (today). Wrestlers are such a fraternity and it’s amazing. I knew this was going to be hard, but at the same time, I knew it was going to be really special. It’s such a blessing.” Original link: https://www.gwinnettprepsports.com/sports/ramos-legacy-well-reflected-in-packed-collins-hill-wrestling-room/article_59264f3f-b9fc-53cd-93f5-f8796753a1a0.html

Sort of related to your poll cobrakid8..... Being from TN, but living in GA for a long time, I'd like to see a set of matches like Parkview (GA) and Bradley did back in the day. They were the top teams from each state and wrestled before a UTC home match.......and Bradley won big. Here would be my pairing...... Woodland (GA) - Baylor North Hall (GA) - Christian Brothers Camden (GA) - Cleveland Buford (GA) - Father Ryan *tried to pair small schools together Wonder if anyone would pay to see that?

All 3 Juniors!......And you know it's a tough tournament when your Stanford signee and Stampede champ from last year finishes 3rd.

I thought it was cool to see Baylor, Buford, and CBHS in the top 10!!

Just to give you some background.....on me.....(since I sort of stalk CoachT) My 2 oldest went to Collins Hill.......both were part of the wrestling team and those great teams. I still live in the CH district......far as I know, no school in GA has ever have more than 4300 students (largest is Mill Creek)........that's why we keep building new schools. I helped start the feeder team at Collins Hill back in the late 90's. CH is coming back.......so watch them......large numbers in feeder program....and in HS room. New coach is very good....from Michigan. My youngest is at Buford.......and she's a wrestling Manager.....(Buford has the coach that was at Archer...and Parkview before that) My nephew was a state champ in 2002 at Baylor....back when the weight was 189. For those that may know him, he's now a Lt. Commander in the Navy. I went to Hixson.....way back! (with Sommers) That's why I still follow TN wrestling. Not sure why the private schools have never been like they are in TN. (You left out Lovett!) I don't think many are even nearly as old. If you think about it, Gwinnett County only had 20,000 people in 1970. So, everything is fairly new here. Anyway, back to topic......I wish we had a coaches poll!!! Also wish in the ATL metro we had middle school wrestling! Thanks for your reply.

You see....little old Buford, from Buford GA, there at #8......1100 students....and wrestled the Stampede last year without a full line up. Been a while since Collins Hill (GA) won the Stampede several years in a row..... But....seeing you guys argue on here makes me laugh a bit.........check out the first and second place teams, Woodland and North Hall, from the McCallie Inv. and then look at their school size.......and money. And if you dig a little deeper, at other tournaments last weekend, Collins Hill (GA) was second place by 13 points at Beech, without their 3 time state placer at 285 (who committed to NC football yesterday)........and Camden (GA)....won the Capital City Classic in Tallahassee by 212 points!!!...placed all 14 wrestlers......with only one as low as 4th. (I know someone will mention Mountain View at Bradley last weekend........but they only entered 7 due to illness...and finished 8th) It's got nothing to do with money.......I'll agree, yeah.....it helps.....but build your feeder!! (guess I'll get my fire blanket now)

I think it's maybe Dade County..... FYI.....says 5pm on Dade County's Coed wrestling schedule. https://dadecountyathletics.com/teams/2435618/coed/wrestling/varsity/schedule

North Hall from Atlanta??? North Hall....is north of Gainesville, GA.....65 miles from Atlanta. FYI.....Woodland is from Cartersville, GA if anyone was curious. And I see at the Beech tournament that old Collins Hill did fairly well. Wish they would have had their 285, but I understand he was on a college football visit. He's a multi time state placer.

Whoops....you are correct.......and I was mistaken.........appears he will stay at 160.

Then it should be a good match if he meets up with Lucas Desilva of Collins Hill....GA AAAAAAA state champ.

CH has a couple of kids on par with the D1 kids of the past......and I'd say they are on their way back. They've got a new coach this year from Michigan that brought a career record of 516-94. The numbers are back, not only in the HS room, but the younger kids too. I'd love to get my daughter's school up to TN, like my son's old CH teams. Buford is really tough; the coach started at Parkview, then started the Archer program, and hopefully is at Buford to stay. One of the reason you don't see teams,in GA, like Cleveland or Bradley, is the exponential growth and the new schools popping up. The tenured teachers and coaches move to those new school.....with better facilities...and most of the time a better student population. Since I've been in Suwanee (1996), I'd conservatively guess there have been 15 AAAAAAA schools built in a 15 mile radius of my home. I guess the Nashville area is seeing that same kind of growth. And CBG, I know you're an old timer........please pass on we need prayers for former Collins Hill Coach Ramos and his battle against pancreatic cancer.

Collins Hill has some tough kids: Powell Gilbert, Joey Felix, Lucas DeSilva, Cody Hutchison, Clint Gilbert, Elijah Griffin, Fredrick Carson

Keep an eye on the Mountain View....182 - 220.........Garrett Spikes, Luke Hennebaul, and Harrison Spikes.

Posting because Bradley Central was at this tourney: Mountain View wrestlers second at challenging duals tourney Mountain View’s wrestling team finished second at the challenging, eighth annual Compound Sportswear Mountain View Duals. The Bears went 4-1 against difficult competition, losing only to Woodland-Cartersville 50-18. They posted wins over Forsyth Central (34-27), Vestavia Hills, Ala. (38-33), Richmond Hill (33-32) and North Hall (38-31). Harrison Spikes went 5-0 at 220 pounds to lead Mountain View. R.J. Aguirre (113), Mason Askew (120), Garrett Spikes (182) and Luke Hennebaul (195) each went 4-1. CMP Sportswear Dual results 1st place – Woodland 2nd place – Mtn View 3rd place – North Hall 4th place – Richmond Hill Rd 1: Mountain View def Forsyth Central 34-27 Richmond Hill def Pope 41-34 Woodland-Cartersville def Valdosta 44-28 North Hall def Thomas County Central 60-16 Rd 2 Mountain View def Vestavia Hills 38-33 Richmond Hill def Mountain View-2 56-12 Valdosta def Sarasota Military 50-17North Hall def Bradley Central 40-27 Rd 3 Vestavia Hills def Forsyth Central Pope def Mountain View-2 72-4 Woodland def Sarasota 78-6Bradley def Thomas County Central 75-6 Rd 4 Mountain View def Richmond Hill 33-32 Woodland def North Hall 49-19 Pope def Vestavia Hills 50-27Bradley def Valdosta 38-24 Forsyth Central def Mountain View-2 54-21 Sarasota def Thomas County Central 54-21 Rd5 Woodland def Mountain View 50-18 North Hall def Richmond Hill 39-38 Valdosta def Vestavia Hills 38-33Bradley def Pope 48-20 Forsyth Central def Sarasota Military Thomas County Cental def Mountain View-2 Rd6 Mountain View def North Hall 38-31 Woodland def Richmond Hill 40-29Bradley def Vestavia Hills 37-35 Valdosta def Pope 32-30 Forsyth Central def Thomas County Central *info gathered from Gwinnett Daily Post and GNWA wrestling web site

Buford senior Logan Ashton to wrestle for Stanford University From Staff Reports sports@gwinnettdailypost.com Buford senior Logan Ashton has accepted a scholarship offer from the Stanford University wrestling program. Ashton, a three-time state finalist, has one state championship and a 137-11 record in his high school career. He is a two-time National High School Coaches Association All-American, as well as a Flo Nationals All-American and a champion at the Kansas City Stampede. Ashton, projected as a 125-pounder at Stanford, also maintains a 3.9 GPA. He is the son of Eric and Caroline Ashton.

Collins Hill wrestling facility dedicated to legendary coach Cliff Ramos, who built program from scratch By Christine Troyke christine.troyke@gwinnettdailypost.com Sep 5, 2018 Updated 8 hrs ago Cliff Ramos’ name is emblazoned on the outside of the Collins Hill wrestling facility, but it’s what was built inside — represented as much by a wall full of state banners as the standing-room only crowd — that really shows what the longtime coach has meant to the high school. Collins Hill officially dedicated the facility to Ramos, the man who started the program and led it to mountainous heights, on Wednesday. Under his direction, the Eagles had a dual meet record of 626-80, won nine state team titles and had 34 individual state champions during his time at the school. In addition, his Collins Hill wrestling team was ranked in the top 25 nationally five times in a six-year span. “He tried to bring out the best in every wrestler,” his longtime assistant Jim Tiller said. “There were many years we had state champion wrestlers whose toughest match was in the wrestle-offs here. “When I came to Collins Hill in 1995, I knew we would have success winning, but I also wanted my own sons to wrestle for Cliff. It was a real challenge to start a new program, but Cliff had a plan and stuck to that plan.” There was a period where the program was so popular that Ramos had to set up mats in the cafeteria so more than 100 kids could practice. “We wanted to do this for Coach Ramos because he’s touched so many different lives in so many different ways,” athletic director Scarlett Straughan said. “One of my favorite quotes by Teddy Roosevelt is, ‘No one cares how much you know until they know how much you care.’ I think that’s the epitome of Coach Ramos. Thank you for how much you’ve cared for our community.” A who’s who of Gwinnett County wrestling filled the room as well as many of Ramos’ family and friends. “Everyone who knows him knows he wouldn’t want his name on a building,” said Jim Gassman, who wrestled for Ramos at Collins Hill before coaching with him there and later at Mountain View. “While he is super competitive in all he does, whether it’s wrestling or ping-pong or college pick ‘em, he doesn’t want to be in the limelight. “You won’t find (him wearing) any of the nine state championship rings. Even recently, he’s been inducted into certain Halls of Fame and you won’t find that memorabilia around his house. While he’s proud of the moments that led to the rings and medals, he’s more proud of what the wrestlers, his family and friends were able to achieve.” Ramos thanked everyone — even the referees in attendance. Much of it earned laughs from the crowd. Some of it drew tears. “It’s a great honor,” Ramos said. “Any success I had is shared by many groups of people, especially the coaches.” He asked those who coached with him to stand or raise a hand. Many went up. “I want to thank all of you for the job you did,” Ramos said. “Part of this honor is yours.” In turn, he offered similar words to his family, his friends, his co-workers, those from his church and parents of athletes. Many of those circles overlapped. A knowing laugh echoed in the room when Ramos asked anyone who refereed his matches to stand. “No, really,” Ramos said as the crowd clapped. “Thank you for putting up with me. Thank you for making me a better person. Part of this honor is yours.” When he got to his former wrestlers, a room full of hands went up. “Now remain standing or keep your hand up if I ever called you an idiot,” Ramos said. Every hand remained up. “There are two reasons I called you an idiot,” Ramos said. “One, you’re idiots. Two, it was kind of a term of endearment. I didn’t say it if you didn’t mean something to me. And you did mean something to me. You meant more than you know. “I took you home with me, every single one of you, whether you were first string or fifth string. I thought about how I could help you. I told you in practice I loved you and I meant it. I still do. Part of this honor is yours.” Ramos’ voice broke over the last sentence. “Now as I’m in a battle with the same cancer that took our dear Coach (Richard) Schumacher’s life, all of you are helping me,” he said. “I read the messages and I feel the prayers. There are two groups who are helping me the most, my wonderful family and the other is all you wrestlers. “I remember all the times I told you to battle, told you to fight, told you to have courage and never give up. I remember those times and now that’s what I’m trying to do.” Ramos is undergoing treatment for pancreatic cancer and after the ceremony was set to return to M.D. Anderson Cancer Center in Houston for surgery.

Some of you may remember Coach Ramos from the past Collins Hill teams. He is currently facing a tough wrestling match with pancreatic cancer. We used to have some great matches with Bradley County, Baylor, Father Ryan, Soddy Daisy, Christian Brothers, and MBA. I know some of the Baylor alumni will never forget the dedication of their wrestling center. I'll never forget one parent asking if Collins Hill were the lambs brought in for the slaughter and the look on Joe Waddel's face when he heard it! Collins Hill to host Wednesday celebration unveiling Cliff Ramos Wrestling Facility From Staff Reports sports@gwinnettdailypost.com Legendary wrestling coach Cliff Ramos, who guided Collins Hill to nine state titles, hugs three-time state champion Bazell Partridge in 2010. Ramos is being inducted into the Gwinnett Sports Hall of Fame tonight. (File Photo) Collins Hill will host a community event Wednesday to honor longtime wrestling coach Cliff Ramos. The celebration is to unveil the Cliff Ramos Wrestling Facility, a naming that was requested by the Eagles community and approved recently by the Gwinnett County Public Schools Board. The public is welcome to the event, which begins at 5:30 p.m. in the wrestling facility inside the Collins Hill fieldhouse. Ramos, who was a driving force behind starting the Eagles wrestling program and making the program a state powerhouse, had a dual meet record of 626-80 and guided Collins Hill to nine state team titles as well as coaching 34 individual state champions during his time at the school. In addition to state championships, his Collins Hill wrestling team was ranked in the top 25 nationally five times in a six-year span. “Coach Ramos has left a legacy in our community that goes way beyond building a championship wrestling program,” Collins Hill athletic and activities director Scarlett Straughan said. “He has served as a mentor to countless young men — both athletes and coaches — over the years and continues to stay involved in their lives. When (Collins Hill principal) Mrs. (Kerensa) Wing hired me to be AD here at Collins Hill, Coach Ramos was one of the first to call and congratulate me. His support of me and our school, even from retirement, has meant so much. When I started my search for a person to take over our historic program, Coach Ramos was the first person I called. “His input was instrumental in bringing current coach Nate Ethridge here from Michigan. We are so honored to be able to do this for coach. Hopefully it will in some small way show him just what he means to Collins Hill and our community. We also want him to know that we are rallying behind him in this current wrestling match with cancer.” Ramos expects to be in attendance despite his current fight with pancreatic cancer. He returns to M.D. Anderson Cancer Center in Houston for surgery.

You know........we're just happy to be able to share the mat with our friends from the north, and hope to be able to compete. Every once in a while we can put a few tough kids on the mat. I remember when Mr. Knox was at Dublin HS in GA......they had a pretty scrappy team. I do miss coming to Cleveland with those old Collins Hill Teams...

What do you guys think about trying to bring back hometown Chattanooga native and current assistant at Pittsburgh.....Jordan Leen?

Buford grad Ness is Gwinnett’s third NCAA Division I All-American wrestler From Staff Reports sports@gwinnettdailypost.com Mar 19, 2018 For the third straight year, Gwinnett County has an All-American at the NCAA Division I Wrestling Championships. Buford grad Chip Ness secured his All-American status at 184 pounds with a big victory Friday night, then defeated No. 9 seed Max Dean of Cornell 6-3 for seventh place in the event. The North Carolina junior entered NCAAs unseeded, but defeated three seeded opponents this week. He joined Collins Hill grads Sean Russell (2017) and Ryan Millhof (2016) was All-Americans from Gwinnett. Millhof was the county’s first NCAA Division I All-American wrestler in 2016. Ness lost to No. 2 seed Myles Martin of Ohio State in Friday’s quarterfinals before facing Navy’s Michael Coleman in a tense match. The winner was guaranteed All-American status, while the loser was eliminated. Down 3-2 with less than a minute left in the final period, Ness scored a takedown and two back points near the edge of the mat. He fought off a late attack to secure All-American status. Ness, who missed last season with a redshirt, also made the NCAA field in 2015-16 as a wild card. He went 1-2 at 197 pounds that season. http://www.gwinnettdailypost.com/sports/buford-grad-ness-is-gwinnett-s-third-ncaa-division-i/article_cfc5e0ae-d0cf-5fb2-9c0a-5a2aa117b0e3.html

Not that I'm aware of. Check the map and look at their locations. I'm not a 100% certain, but I think Camden spends allot of time wrestling Florida teams. With Jefferson there's no secret to their success. Good coaching, community involvement, and a great feeder program. They always treated me like family when we wrestled up there. And for your follow up, no Buford didn't wrestle either of them in a dual.

They headed back down to 3A next year...