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They would be in different division now because they have grown so much, there division would be MBA, Brentwood Academy, Ensworth, Father Ryan, Pope John Paul, McCallie, Webb. Thats a lil different than before. As far as the game goes Catholic is extremely physical and should be a good game for football fans.

You missed my whole point, Irishbball was downing a public high school and I was simply stating they get to choose who enters there school and public schools don't, 8 to 15 % of kids in public schools are on free lunch; wonder how many go to Catholic: probably the same amount of special ed kids that go there ZERO, Catholic has over 600 kids, if they played in the same private division Webb did they would be going .500 every year, and as far as traditon goes when has Anderson County ever won anything in Football or any other sports beside volleyball.

You might be right. There are more opportunities at Catholic, but no matter how u slice it, it is still a private school. At Kingston they play with players they get, Kingston doesn't get a choice on who enters their school and Catholic along with every other private school does. State law says if you live in the district you gotta take that kid, not the same for Catholic they can pick and choose athletes and students they want. The coaches may not recruit but the facilities and opportunities makes kids wanna go there. Basically the school recruits itself. As far as not teaching grammar and how to spell, if I recall your Head Coach and Dean of Discipline are Roane County School System graduates , I think they do alright for themselves. You would rather be at Catholic ok that's your choice but don't knock public schools, not everyone can afford Catholic. I like public schools they represent community involvement and tradition and thats why Kingston will have more people there Friday. By the way this is a football board not basketball, what you gonna bring up next Catholic girls softball, oh probaly not since your football wins double those to.

Once again Ram Fan you are right you are so smart, your right, there are some 1a schools that could possibly beat Kingston; so what you wanna cookie; and as I recall Alcoa has been the second best team in the state for 4 years running, what a great comparison, Harriman played a great game last night, emotions were high and they were ready to play but they came up short, It's hard to beat a team 17 times in a row, so it's still a win. And as far as all them 1a schools Oneida and Hampton both should be 2a, and I would like to see any of those teams play Kingstons schedule and come out with a winning record Alcoa and South Pitt would be the only two, But I expect comments like that to come from a guy who probably never played football and ended up playing the tuba in high school. So whoever you cheer for; whether it's Tyner or Rockwood little league rams Good Luck and blow that tuba proud and loud.

Yea I know Kingston and Midway played in 87 and 88, I played in both those games, Midway couldn't beat Rockwood last year, so I don't know what you base your opinions on, and that 88 Midway team was probably their best ever, your right Kingston did play better teams back then but they also had better talent, there were only 3 divisions back then and private played in the same regions as public. I'm not saying Kingston's non-region games are tough but they already play in the toughest region in football, I don't hear you talking about Maryville, or Catholic, y don't they go play Brentwood and MBA. up until last year Catholic was playing Wartburg. Just call Fulmer and ask him y does he play Southern Miss and Wyoming every year. These county rivalries are priceless. I wouldn't trade them for anything, I had a blast competing against my friends from other county schools, they have played for 50 years I hope they always play county teams.

Well since you know so much, what's the score gonna be tomorrow night that way everyone can stay at home and not worry about going to the game and as far as you knowing Kingston football , well you should know not to make crazy statements like Midway beating them, you said the results will be the same well maybe, but thats why they play the season smart guy.

That's funny "queenston" , you guys crack me up. But whats even more funny is that you probably wasn't even born the last time Kingston lost to Harriman.

Hey Ram Fan as usual you don't know anything, Kingston didn't play ooltewah back in the 90's , if your gonna say stupid things at least get the facts right, it doesn't matter if Kingston is 3a and Harriman is 1a, the community loves to watch the county teams play and as far as having a tough non region games , thats makes a lot of sense to travel to play a bigger school when these programs survive off the gate money, lets see I can play william blount and make 6,000 in gate money or play rockwood and make 15,000 thats an easy decision for me. What about the fact that Kingston is one of the smallest 3a school in the state, and the smallest in there region, 700 kids compared to AC's 1200 Fulton 960 and Catholics 500 without the multiplier and as far as Midway beating Kingston be real now , I think Midway has a good football team but they r not gonna beat Kingston.

Your right Dana Puckett was the guard and Amy Morton('89) was the post; I was wrong about her playing D-1, although she had offers from Tennessee Tech and MTSU she tore her ACL and ended up accepting a scholarship to Carson Newman. She was one of the best shooting post to ever play there.

I will agree that 1 or 2 players could have played but I don't think would have started, when I went to school there the girls won the district, region or went to the state tournament all 4 years when I was in high school. The point guard and one of the post signed D-1 scholarships; now I don't know if that will ever happen again, but If I recall you offered a lot of advice to this team during the season about what scheme to run and certain strategies and personnel to play right here on this board, Especially during district tournaments, so maybe your the one who knows everything and can fix the problems.

I have read a few post on this board and I agree with some and disagree with some, even though I agree losing does not help maintain a positive attitude, but if I had a kid that acted the way some of these players act then I wouldn't wait for the coach to do something I would not be letting her play. If I would have acted like a punk during a high school game my dad would have yanked me out and not allowed me to play the next game, kingston lead the league in technical fouls because of running their mouth to the official. The way some of the players act is ridiculous and I know that falls back on the coach but parents have to take some responsibility also. As far these girls playing college ball: Not to many post players 5'9 in college. Kingston has had a lot of great girl basketball teams over the years but only a handful have played college ball, this game has evolved so much the last 15 years it 's getting harder to play at the next level.

Of course they are limited fundamentally. But that is not always a effect of coaching, sometimes; but not always. You can teach any kid fundamentals but usually the ones that are more athletic and talented catch on quicker and are better at boxing out or a bounce pass, my point is if your playing against a team with more talent and just as fundamentally sound; they're gonna win against the team less talented. Kingston's problem is they don't have depth and they cannot score, they are holding opponents to 45 to 55 points, which is not bad, but only scoring 30 to 35, hard to win ballgames scoring that many points.

Have you seen this team play? If you haven't I suggest you go watch them. They play at home Friday night, a man with your basketball experience should be able to recognize if this team has talent or not.

Are you a coach? I think coaches should take some of the responsibility but not all of it, just like when you win, there is one thing you cant do is make someone have talent, but you can make talent better, if this team wins 15 games next year the athletic department or the coach is not even an issue, and yes Kingston does have a sixth period athletics. It's a Coaches responsibility to put kids in the best situation to be successful on and off the court, cant make kids participate; 20 years ago maybe but not today , of course if you are a coach and are around high school kids then you already know that.

Your example of Austin Clark and Mike Snow is not a very good one. Austin Clark started at UT and Mike Snow played for the university of TN Chattanooga, do u know when the last time a player from Kingston went D-1, if you recall let me know. Those teams in the 60's and 70's had so much talent, Kingston was good in every sport, Kids are different, teachers are different and the community is different. Plemons works hard at coaching he is just in his second year, this team has 1 senior and 2 juniors. Since you have so much experience you need to come and watch this team play and judge for yourself, better yet come up and put an application in, maybe with your experience they would be undefeated.

I agree.

I agree with Jimmy Dolan. There is not always enough talent walking the hall ways, the kids that have talent walking the halls most of the time don't wanna do it the coaches way, if they did they would be playing, I agree part of the coaches job is to get kids to play but not to the point that they are begging. I think sometimes you can blame losses on talent, just like you get wins from talent you think Bearden, Maryville, Fulton, and Oak Ridge don't have talent, of course they do if they didn't they would not be successful year in and year out.

Never said Roane State was big time, never said he was a great player, but you have to be above average to play there, 1992 Kingston went to the substate in Basketball and in 1991 they went to the State, Football went to the state semi finals in 1993, he played on all those teams. Figured you would have remembered that, being that you watched your share of Kingston B-ball, you say you played on a state baseball and football team that means you was in school around '98. This team is young and not very talented, every team they have played has been better than them. Never said you had to be good player to be a good coach, but it's easy to sit in the stands and say do this or do that and question the coach, these boys work hard and play hard but they are just not very good, and I hope they get a win soon.

Plemons at best a average player, I wonder how many games you saw him play, a 3 year starter on some Kingston teams that went to the sub state and state the whole time he was in high school he was a very good basketball player that went on to Roane State to play. Funny how people get on here and hide behind a screen and say this and that about people especially when the person writing this probably didn't even play sports or was a little league all star who never got playing time in high school, last time I checked you gotta have horses to run a race, not to many of those playing for Kingston right now, if you got something to get off your chest you can find Pankey and Plemons at the gym everyday around 4:30.

I never said he was the fastest , I said one of the fastest, I played with him in the Tennessee- Kentucky Allstar game and he was clocked at a 4.42, at Neyland with jogging pants on; on the main field which was turf back then. He maybe was not the fastest but he is probably in the top 3.

I played on that 89 Kingston team and we were the 2nd best team in the State that year behind Alcoa. You talk about size, speed, and depth, Jamie Henry 6'3 215, Mitchell 6'3 230 and both ran like deer, not to mention Chad Smith, Kevin Jackson, and maybe the fastest player in Alcoa History Billy Williams, two NFL players. Back then only 2 teams made the playoffs and there were only 3 divisions state wide and public and privates were together. As far as AE and Loudon they both were really good with players like Psalm Bailey, Jabbar Troutman, and Joey Hardy, even Harriman was good they went 8-2 and didn't make the playoffs. That 89 team beat a Brentwood Academy team like a drum in the championship game, Alcoa toughest game that year was Kingston. That team could have dominated any team in the state that year, you cant say that about the 2000 team. You mentioned Cory Anderson, he would have had a hard time starting on that 89 team, I saw both teams play, 89 without a doubt is better, this one of the best teams to ever lace it up in the entire state.

Your right I was on that Kingston 89 team, and we did have the second best team in the state, Alcoa beat us on a 4th and goal bootleg play that Kevin Jackson scored on, that was a great game, that place was packed that night, I remember the news saying that this game was the real state championship game that year, much respect to the 89 Alcoa team.

I agree with you, this team does not have any discipline but after going to a few games I see where they get there attitude from, the parents of these girls are ridiculous, all they do is yell and scream at officials, and the coach the whole time until there daughter misses a layup or turns the ball over, it's no wonder they have attitudes the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. The main problem is these girls haven't gotten any better since middle school; everyone talks about talent I don't see that much of it.

I agree about the weight lifting comment, but the high school team I played on most every starter could bench press over 275lbs, all the lineman could do 300. There are not a lot of high school teams today that can say that, back then the competition was better, only 2 teams made the playoffs out of the region and there was only 3 divisions, privates and public were together, I'm not saying your wrong just saying Mitchell, Jamie Henry, and Billy Williams are as good as anyone who has suited up for Alcoa, Jamie Henry possibly was the best out of the three, a 6'3 215 pound fullback that would knock your head off; he could have named his school of choice if he would took care of business in the classroom, if both teams could strap it up I'm taking the 89 team every time. You had five guys go play D1 off that team.

That 89 team is one of the best ever come through Alcoa if not the best. I played against that team in 89 at Alcoa high school in the state semi finals they beat us by 6 points and went on the next week and crushed Brentwood Academy. You wanna talk players, Shannon Mitchell, Jamie Henry, Chad Smith, Kevin Jackson, Billy Williams, all these guys were great players, two future NFL players out of this group, not to mention chad smith getting a full ride to MTSU and I played with Kevin Jackson at Tennessee Tech where he was a two year starter at Safety, this team had great talent at the skill positions, Jamie Henry and Shannon Mitchell were men among boys fast and big. I dont know what team is the best ever but I have not seen a team as good as this one since then.