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Off topic, but that is funny.

so much for being "out of here"....LOL...

weak.

I agree about the filthy way that cobra was talking on the boards. It is not needed and like cobra said, it is immature (he really said kids are talking that way when you are not looking). He may be right, but I doubt you can assign that behavior generally to that age group. I do think it is not really "disrespecting" any athlete when you take a side on who wins a contest. It is just sports talk and as long as it is not personal, no big deal to me.

Here is the best quote on this thread: You've chosen to ignore content by CaptainGuru.

Does the week later really mean anything, I just finally read your post. Sorry, but I just read it. You know what you wrote, I do not need to line it out for you. "What did I say?", LOL.

it does not matter, you are right. But throwing off on Yost, bad form.

LOL.....pretty much the best example of passive aggressive written behavior I have seen on here.

I put baby in the corner too.

Dual championship , 2013. Cleveland 78, Wilson Central 4. Also, by forfeiting out the Halls team, that was mercy.

I guess you should be glad they did not mention the Blackmon wrestlers, that could have sent you over the edge!

Heck, even I know some of those stories and I have not lived in Cleveland for probably 40 years. This is wise advice.

my very first match ever in high school was in that gym. I remember it well. I believe those coaches are there because they see the vision that was being created. Their skills make that program better, not the money. this is only my opinion and observation.

I do not believe you said or wrote it. You have inferred it over and over and over. So you win this "waiting game".

so, is an advantage something that others do not have and the reason that makes these wrestlers better? Again, you do not need to answer, I already know the answer. Your answer is that this is the prime reason for the success or you would not continue to harp on "no one in the program will give me an admission of my premise". It is not the advantage you think it is.

LIke I commented on, it was inferred. go back and re-read almost anything posted by ummmno, he kept referring to the money being an advantage, or words to that effect. I commented on why he was getting push back and I would say pretty much the same about your general comments as well. I think Steve Henry was pretty much top of the heap for many years and besides having that round gym available, he and his team were something to fear for most teams. I do not know his funding situation, but let us agree it is not like Cleveland's, yet he still made it happen. How is that possible (this is a rhetorical question)?

this seems immature on here. You know him, go talk to him.

it is not really an issue, is it?

I would say they do. I would say it does not make the difference that you think it does. It may just be one ingredient in the success story of the program there. Your post seem to infer that it is the biggest thing that has made the success possible. I suspect that is why you get so much push back on the crusade you are on for some admission from someone in that program, group, school, parents, wrestlers. Maybe the money involved did help get like minded people together in one place with some really good coaches and really good wrestling partners and that has made the difference you are trying to explain. I think that those who cared about the program, got together and made a plan and determined what needed to happen. That program was tired of getting slapped around by the cross town rival and they had had enough. They needed a kids club and some leadership to move from second best in the county. They are pretty good now.

I guess that team took your advice and did "not sleep on DB".

This is funny, you just want to feel good with an admission of that particular thing, even if those parents do not agree with you. Geeze. You are making Trey look reasonable.

fair enough. I still do not understand why that would matter to you or anyone.

Coaches do not have the time to evaluate the teams that they vote on. Media barely covers this sport, so they are no help either (in regards to voting for a ranked poll). So take it as a little nice thing that happens, but is mostly not accurate.

who cares where any of these kids began their wrestling journey? This seems like a bunch of crybabies looking for something negative to throw at one program that is not exactly like their program. Youth coaches do not own the kids, how can a person going to another program be considered "stealing"? The Bob Coker post is informational, but has no value at all.

you seem to be in the deep end of the swimming pool, maybe it would be better to get near the rope and hang on there. Losing 3 kids is an excuse? Any reasonable person with that information would know that is not an excuse, but a statement of the situation.