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I'm calling Franklin by at least one TD, especially if they can get up early and force the pass. That would be huge as well as penalties. When this rebels team plays disciplined, they are hard to beat. Unfortunately penalties have been bad this year. It has gotten better as of recent though. One interesting tidbit about this game--Franklin won't have a band this Friday as they'll be traveling to Indianapolis. Apparently they're trying to get some type of alumni band together but I'm not sure what level of participation they'll have. Will certainly be a different atmosphere than normal at Howard Gamble Stadium come game time.

Really Franklin people? I am sick of getting on here and in every thread about Franklin, all of the Franklin folks say the game they're in is a guaranteed win. Guess what?! THERE ARE NO GUARANTEES. This cocky attitude isn't helping anything. I am a firm believer in that confidence is key, but to act like every game is a guaranteed win is ridiculous. The rebels aren't as good as y'all make them out to be. They're a solid team and should make at least the second round of the playoffs, but they're certainly not invincible and there are better teams out there. I think the rebels will pull a W out of this one, but I don't think it will be a blowout (will be happy if I'm wrong, blowouts are fun). Eat some humble pie, grow up, and represent our school with some class. Go Rebels.

Wont give a score yet caus we have to worry about another team this weak (no worries though). Rebels cant wait for next week.

 

Rebel D too much for a bad offense. Those Eagles have not seen a offense that throws the ball like the REBS and our QB.

 

Game wont be as close as you guys think!

Are you referring to the rebels offense of the first two weeks? Because since then they haven't done jack squat against a decent team. The main factor there is penalties, though. If the offense can cut down on the penalties, perhaps the offense of weeks one and two will make a comeback. However, until this offense becomes more disciplined, I certainly would not say that the offense is too much for Indy. Now, that's not to say that the rebels won't come out with a W in this one, which I think they will. All I'm saying is that the rebel O hasn't been as good as you're making them out to be, at least in recent weeks. The talent is there, great potential. We've seen it already. It just left whenever the D decided to show up. As of recent, they've been doing just enough to get by aside from the ravenwood game, which was also sloppy even if 34 points went on the board. You may be right in that no one they've played can throw as well as Franklin does on a good day, but they've certainly faced more productive offenses (Blackman anyone?). Lookin forward to this matchup. Should be a good one. Go Rebels.

Hold on thier sparky , you say FHS has a better defense then indy? Say Stars and and Commandos putting up some 65 pts total

Rebs have a good 'D' but edge to Indy , recall 14 pts versus the I train , and look what the blaze have been putting on the scoreboard, and how bout the bruins offense indy shut them down and BHS offense has been clicking ..

I agree bout indy offense not as good as FHS , but your team has not been an offensive force either, but it still outshines the eagles.

Indy can run the ball very good by committee but look at thier qb passing stats plain horrible. However when Thompson or swayze connect its for a long one or TD........

If indy can get to Matt often and your o line breaks down , well it could then go indys way...

Sarah palin told me her PREDICTION : its FHS vs INDY and I am used to beatdown and a goose egg on the scoreboard ..

However folks, indy has proved me wrong all offseason and to date, so look for a close one but a late FG by Indy gets the win and the crown

Franklin changed their defense after week two and has been extremely productive ever since. However, the offense has gone downhill since those games. Will be a close one.

Not to step in to your little pee match, but "Heck Yeah" is a euphemism for "He$% Yes. Not much for showing the class of a school and not much of an argument to excuse poor choices. That choice of wording is better suited for NASCAR when bubba asks billy bob, "do you want another beer?" "He$% yeah!"

 

On a personal experience note, I used to follow a metro team pretty close. They traveled to Franklin to play. When the team was headed to the locker room, the n-word taunts were everywhere. Sounds like Franklin still has trouble with fan behavior and the red neck rebel reputation.

 

And i am not eubanks or taco either.

Oh man, you're right, that sign really was meant to say h*** yeah, they didn't really mean heck. I guess every time you say dang you mean d***, every time you say shoot you mean to say s***, and every time you say bottom, butt or any other form of the word, you really mean a**. What an awful person you must be for saying dang, shoot, and bottom. We know what you really mean . Man, those Franklin kids are real trouble makers, writing heck on a sign. WOOOOO, big deal.

As for the behavior you saw displayed whenever your team came to play, I am embarrassed. Once again, however, I would be willing to bet that it is that same group of kids I was talking about before. That less than 10% group. I hate that they give Franklin a bad image and wish they would stop, but don't say that the whole school is like that please. It's not. It's that one group, give and take a few.

I appreciate your response and I know schools have the majority of their kids doing the right thing. But when you have 400 kids who are doing the wrong thing, you have a major problem. My assumption has always been it good kids getting caught up and doing the wrong thing. But when you have that many good kids doing the wrong thing, you have an instituitional problem that in this case looks to be condoned or ignored by both school and community.

 

On top of the post game bahavior, you have the smoke bombing and water ballooning of CHS students by FHS students that we have all heard about. We have the FHS student who threw paint on a couple of dozen CHS students that we all heard about, and then you have the slip and slide poo behavior that we have all heard about. Heck, thats just the stuff that is common public knowledge. There is no way at all that those are the only problems at Franklin. Added all together and you get a zoo. Plain and simple. Franklin HS is currently an embarrassment to the community.

 

I'll get off my soapbox. Lets get back to football. And yes, Franklin beat Centennial, lol. This wasnt about the W/L column, it was about ongoing classless and out of control behavior of a school that should know better and act it.

There is no way that there were 400 kids storming the field. Let's do the math. FHS band has between 150-170 kids. They fill up the bleachers to the top at roughly the same amount of space in the bleachers alotted to the students, probably a bit more. The student section takes up between 1/2 and 3/4 of their section with other fans filling the rest. Granted, the band isn't as squished together, but I would still say that there are more in the band section than the student section. How can you get 400 out of that space? I would be willing to bet that there are no more students in the student section than in the band (As you know, Franklin has a large band). That means that the number you presented would be cut in half plus some more leaving us with about 10% of the student body if that. You also have to consider the kids in the endzones, but most of them are middle schoolers with freshmen and maybe sophomores sprinkled in. So you're using maybe 10% of the student body that did the stuff before the game, after the game, and at that silly FGC thing that isn't technically affiliated with the school. What about the other 90% of the student body? There is that bunch in every school. I am certainly embarrassed by these kids, but they don't represent the whole student body. UP until the whole uniform ordeal, Centennial was one of the worst behaved schools in the county. Gang violence at school? Pushing a kid down the stairs? Seriously? How about the kids from Indy that came and spray painted the FHS football field a couple years ago? The Ravenwood kids that allegedly raped that girl back in '08? THEY ARE AT EVERY SCHOOL. Stop making Franklin sound like the only ones.

As for the sign, I saw it. It said Heck Yeah for homecoming.

Who is represented by the actions of the entire student section, storming the field to charge across it to the visitors side to cuss, taunt, and shoot birds too? I was there for that one. 400 Franklin students, not celebrating their victory at mid field, but showing the worst case of sportsmanship I have ever witnessed on a football field. So the parents of 400-500 students are represented? Or is it an out of control school, that like you tries to ignore the problem and shoot the messenger? How long have you been on the FHS payroll? Those students represent you as well. Nice job.

Lack of instituitional control = Franklin High School. Your students taunt and berate visitors and they poo and pee on each other. That place is more of a zoo than a school, and everyone keeps trying to hide the problems instead of just dealing with it. Throw in the racism of the "rebels" and you have a very embarrassing school, existing in an good old boy town where such behaviors are condoned instead of condemned.

400 out of 1800+ kids is about 20%, and 400 is actually pushing it for the amount of students that stormed the field. 20% is still too many kids doing that stuff, but it's not a lot. Wht about the 80% that weren't involved in that stuff? I don't think parents or the school should be blamed exclusively. There are lots of good kids at Franklin, more than there are bad. Don't lump in everyone with that group. I know that's how it goes sometimes, but outside of the kids that were being disrespectful at that game, most of them are good kids. The kids involved in that are the same ones involved in the incident with the slip n slide. I am embarassed by what they did, but don't label the whole school a zoo, when most of the kids are doing the right things.

RB Fred Lane, Jr. (RIP)Franklin High School, Carolina Panthers

So how about the Rebels defense finally showing up all 4 quarters?

What a pleasure that was to watch. Now if the D and O can both play at peak performance it's going to be even more fun to watch!

Actually Franklin has a total of 11 State Champions, 10 in Girls Soccer, 2 in Wrestling and 1 in Boys Basketball. Also the TSSAA has only been recognizing State Championships in football since 1969. I just hate to let the facts get in the way of a good story.

Wouldn't that be 13?

The big question for the rebels this year is going to be defense. I think most will agree that things just haven't been the same since Donny Webb left. A lot of the intensity that was there when he was is gone. If they can learn to wrap up and the secondary doesn't let as many big plays happen, I think the rebels will be a dominant team this year. If we see more of the same, the offense is going to have to keep scoring in the 40s and 50s, which they are completely capable of, especially if dropped balls are eliminated a good deal. That defense has several good players that are capable of great things as a unit, it's just a matter of whether or not they push themselves to their full potential. Right now, this team doesn't really look like they want it until the mid to late second half. When they do show that desire, this team is extremely productive. If we can see them show up for the whole ball game, it's going to be quite the task for anyone to beat them.

Wait, this is a Franklin Rebels football thread?! I had no idea!

Should be a close game, if Kuivinen gets into a groove with his receivers, it may be tough for siegel in this one...also,I'm kind of embarassed to say this here, but I'm looking forward to halftime almost as much as the game. Two of the top bands in the state last year. Should be one of the more entertaining halftimes all season long. Definitely worth watching this week.

I think the biggest thing in this game was the intensity Blackman brought play after play. The energy level on that team was all the way up, all the time. Always playing to the blow of the whistle and never let up, no matter how big the lead was. I just didn't see the same thing in Franklin, at least from the stands. The early touchdowns seemed to bring down the spirits of Franklin's defense, and blackman's play after play intensity on defense eventually just wore down Franklin's offensive line to the point where they were busting through every single time. You could tell the whole team had taken a physical beating by the third quarter. Congratulations to Blackman for advancing, and congratulations to Franklin on a great season!

And you callme delusional I have never seen this back live but to compare anyone to that Hopkinsville team or Hillsboro is a joke. I love my REBELS and why you get on here and apologize for me I will never know. Heck, the Blackman people are on here having fun and talking about being at our practices. Why don't you get on them? I still say Rebels win again. Too much pass offense for a team that has a weakness in the DB's. (Just reading into what I read on here)

 

And by the way, come have a drink of my Dr. Pepper before the game tomorrow. You are right it won't have cherry in it, but it will keep you warm.

 

I was about to sign off, but i just get pissed the more I read from you. on second thought do not come over to me before the game because you are not a real rebel fan.

 

Chew on this and "come get U SOME" Rebels 24 Blaze 14

 

You can't just try and run it against the Rebel D.

I've never seen this back live either, but I can assure you that anyone who runs for 322 yards and 4 touchdowns in one game is a very serious threat. That is almost equivalent to Tyler Bray's passing stats against Memphis this past weekend. They may have a weakness in the DB's, but they make up for it with great linebackers and a stout d-line that will pressure you all night. You say he's not a real rebel fan because he doesn't agree with your rash and over zealous posts? I guess that means I'm not a real rebel fan either after supporting the team for the past 8 years. We understand that you love the rebels, we got that after about your first 5 posts on these boards. We do too, but we don't find the rash posts necessary to support our team. We don't mind the other guys because they are just joking around, maybe even trolling a little bit. Oh, and ask Chudi Echetebu and the rest of the Brentwood team whether you can just try and run it on the Rebel D. Chudi ran for 145 on us and they ran for 308 total. There are flaws in our team, and that's ok. You must acknowledge those flaws and be able to post accordingly. We have a great team, but they certainly have big things they need to work on.You have done stuff like this the whole year, but it seems that you think that the rebels are invincible now since they beat Oakland and the posts have gotten worse since then. Sometimes it's just good to keep your mouth shut. It is great to support the rebels to a certain extent, but you go way over the top. Please post more responsibly. Spare the rest of us rebel fans.

I think the rebels have a legitimate chance to win, but it will be tough. I'm gonna say 35-21 Blackman, but hope it's the other way around. GO REBELS!!

dobyns bennet, siegel, munford, and franklin

again if u couldnt beat us with dye, lee, and ford how r u gonna do it with just dye?

1.) An improved pass game

2.) Without Dye, Hostettler has gotten increased reps and improved immensely from the beginning of year, becoming more productive each week

3.) Zak Steele has had a great year as a sophmore and runs over defenders like a truck on a weekly basis

4.) An improved defense

5.) Dye didn't play either game against Brentwood last season, as he was kicked off the team midseason.

I'm not saying Franklin will win tomorrow night, but these are all reasons why it could happen. The run game isn't the only part of a team. To win, you also have to have a stout defense, a decent or better pass game to balance out the run game somewhat, a good offensive line, and good special teams along with many other factors. There are so many factors to take into consideration other than the loss of Lee and Ford.

1.) I think donkey makes a great point about tolerance of other religions' right to exercise. It is good food for thought.

2.) Here's how I see it. You have the no establishment clause and the freedom to exercise clause. Each person at a football game has a right to pray on their own or with a group of people under the freedom to exercise. However, if said football game is at a public school and the prayer is being led over the loudspeaker, that would be a government run school imposing christian beliefs on all of the attendees. That would be considered establishment because the school is run by the government and if everyone in attendance is forced to listen to the prayer, even if they are of a different religion, that is a government run program establishing Christianity or whatever religion as its belief. This scenario is only for public schools. Private schools can do whatever they want in regards to religion.

That is my viewpoint based strictly on the laws and not on any personal beliefs.

3.) I believe that prayer is a good thing and people can pray however they want. However, under the constitution, they cannot do it over the loudspeakers in public schools. What I would suggest is that if you feel strongly enough about this issue, you should try to gather up as large a group as you can and pray in unison before the games. Perhaps you could get the entire fan base to do so and you could invite visiting fans to join you. That is about the best you could do under the circumstances.

You Rebel Boys keeping playing with yourselves while we go play football tonite....

Is that supposed to be an insult? Yes, Franklin has a bye week this week, as did Brentwood a few weeks ago. All fbforme said was that he couldn't wait for the game. I don't know if he came off as cocky to you or what, but all I saw in his post was his enthusiasm for a perennially intense rivalry game that is sure to be exciting, as it usually is. Did you really suggest that Franklin folks play with themselves? What a juvenile comment. How is that even relevant? That was uncalled for.

And what's your point?

 

Won't matter after the Rebels go to Bruin Country and win we will be 9-1 and will shut up all the people that say we have not played anyone.

I like your enthusiasm and confidence in the rebels, but often times it comes off as cocky. Sometimes, rightfully so. However, this game is different. Brentwood is probably the toughest opponent the rebels will face all year. To guarantee a rebel win come next Friday is simply ludicrous. It will most likely be a great game as it always is, but we have no right to be talking smack. Going into this game, the bruins have beaten the rebels two times in a row and played a much tougher schedule, making them more battle tested against higher quality teams. The rebels' chances look good in this game, but let the play on the field do the talking. I love the spirit, but the cockiness has got to go. It makes the whole fan base look bad.

WOW! I expected the rebels to win, but not by this much! Great to see this team finally starting to click!

Ok, since you throw out some facts the way you see it then let me throw out the real facts.

 

Defense 53 points scored against the Rebels so far. Well one was scored on our offense with a fumble picked up and another was scored on our third string. So that is 40 Big points scored on this not so good defense. In the Centennial game we missed some tackles and let them get a few big plays. Other than that it has been a DOMINANT Defense. One like I have not seen around here for a while. Ok, so back to some facts Mr. Pylon: That is less than 7 points a game this defense is giving up!! Oh, and yes they have had a shut out 45-0 to Hopkinsville. So, before you spout off make sure you got your facts straight.

 

Offense All I have been saying is we are getting better each week. yes we still drop too many balls but the Run game is getting better. Big Lane has rushed for over 100yds in the past two ball games. Is this not improvement? My only complaint is the front line blocking. If they would pick up the blitzes then Matt would be getting better passing stats also. He has looked bad because of bad blocking on stunts up front.

 

So with all this said, I still say as ugly as the games have been (and I might add that they are ugly because our DEFENSE also makes it ugly on the other guys), we are getting better and it will show come the end vs. Brentwood. Other than Brentwood, who could beat us? No one!! The Rebels are Rolling and I will continue to say so! See you tomorrow night and GO REBELS!

If you go back and read my post, you will see that I said that the defense has been great, I never said they were bad. I did say that they weren't as good as they could be, though. They have been great, but I don't see how you can say they have been one of the most dominant defenses in the area in recent times, even if the stats show for it. Like I said in my previous post, props to the defense for getting the job done week in and week out, even if the Centennial game was a little rough. If you read more, you will also see that I said that the run game IS, in fact, improving. All I was trying to say is that the team isn't as good as you make them out to be this year. Even if not as strong as years past, this years team is still solid. We have yet to play anyone really strong this year, so we will have to see how things play out the rest of this season. Hopefully the rebels can make some adjustments on offense and win out the rest of the season. Particularly the game on October 29th in Brentwood.

As always? Not so fast my friend! With the way our Rebels are playing D then you will have a hard time scoring and as our offense gets better each game I'd say the Rebels will do just fine vs. your Bruins. We will get to that game when it is time. Right now us Rebels just keep on winning.

Look, I'm a rebel fan as well, but lets face the facts. The rebels are not at the level they have been in years past. Say what you want, but the offense has not been clicking this season. There may be a few good drives, but the rest of the time all I see is dropped and overthrown balls along with a run game that is very weak (understandably so, as the top 3 backs are out). I see flashes of greatness here and there, but it is definitely not consistent. The run game has improved quite a bit since the beginning of the season. Zak Steele in particular has been really good at opening things up and will run over anyone in his path, which has in turn helped Lane Hostettler break longer runs more often. However, if the problem of dropped and overthrown balls cannot be corrected, the offense is going to keep struggling throughout the year, as will the rest of the team as a result. The defense has been great, but keep in mind that they let Centennial score quite a few points, more than I can remember Centennial ever scoring on Franklin. Also, no shutouts for this year's rebel defense. I will give them props for getting the job done each week, even if the Centennial game was a little too close for comfort.

I'm a rebel through and through, but you can't overlook the problems they have had this year and act as if the team has been firing on all cylinders when, obviously, they have not. There is a great deal of potential in this years team, but they have yet to show they can play at the level they are capable of. Good luck to the rebels the rest of this season! Make this season one to remember!

Hillsboro's quarterback, #15, was the injured player. He was taken out in an ambulance after being down for a very long period of time. Prayers go out to him and his family.