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  1. Regular season and postseason have nothing to do with each other in this context as the volleyball tournament are billed as "double elimination." If this is the format, it should be renamed to "double elimination (unless your first loss is at the end, then for you and only you, the format is single elimination)" At least 2 of the 5 championships were decided in this manner which is poor. Parking sounds like it was bad, hearing that from multiple sources.
  2. Again this year - and the same with all years past - the volleyball brackets are "sort of double elimination" rather than actual double elimination. This is bracketing 101 stuff, but when the losers bracket team beats the winners bracket team at the end, both teams have one loss and an additional game is necessary. Baseball and softball both do its but in volleyball when you beat me in the earlier state round and then I beat you the second time we play, I am declared the champion. There is no scenario where this makes sense, yet it continues year after year. Can anyone offer insight as to (1) why this exists, and (2) why seemingly nobody has proposed it be changed to the correct way with the "if necessary game" at the in in the event that two teams have a loss.
  3. Just like districts in 1A-6A in DI, only region games go toward the standings and thus, the seedings for postseason. DII-A and DII-AA brackets: http://www.tndiiathletics.com/football-dii-aa.html
  4. Couldn't find anything either. Middle Region bracket is posted here and will be updated daily: www.TnDIIAthletics.com
  5. You made the blanket statement about five specific schools with coaching staff members going out to middle school football games for the purposes of illegally recruiting players. I simply asked for specifics of which you provided none. As I said in the original post, I am not implying you are not telling the truth, but making broad accusations about multiple programs blatantly violating association bylaws but then providing nothing to substantiate your claim is not appropriate and in any venue would be characterized as hearsay. To echo the comment from 4thq, yes we are all the police in this regard.
  6. You still have to get to halftime, so the results you saw were probably correct. The last year before it was instituted, there was a 24-0 score which is inexcusable.
  7. The losing team in this match also scored ten goals and won a game... it just took them four seasons to do it.
  8. It sounds as though you've seen this first hand. If so, please name names... specific names with dates. You could even post some images. And please don't mistake this post as sarcasm, hyperbole, or implying you are not telling the truth.
  9. Yes. CPA MBB/WBB posted roughly 30 times and about 85-90% of those were re-Tweeted. DCA posted roughly 12 times and about 85-90& of those were re-Tweeted.
  10. I'm not really sure what to say, other than quantifiable statistics are what they are. The three sports you mentioned do not have Twitter accounts. In terms of boys and girls basketball, your main school account tweeted 12 times about B/G BB district games, 10 of which were re-Tweeted. I'll take the heat for missing the other two, but I can only re-Tweet what has been posted.
  11. As I initially stated, the integrity and objectivity of the TnDIIAthletics website and Twitter account is of the upmost importance and essential for it's ongoing success. I go out of my way to ensure neither is a PR platform for CPA athletics or is even perceived to be as such. Twitter will let me go back to the last week of November 2018 to see the posts and re-Tweets so I spent about an hour (or more) tonight counting from the beginning of basketball season on December 1st through the end of Spring Fling a few weeks ago. • From DEC 2018 to present, @TnDIIAthletics re-Tweeted or Tweeted 810 times. • 70 Tweets were original content from @TnDIIAthletics and consisted exclusively of schedules, brackets, and postseason parings • 50 re-Tweets were relaying information from the TSSAA, TIAAA, other media outlets, as well as a few postseason results from outside the Middle Region which either involved Middle Region schools or a result where a Middle Region team would face them next, and one re-Tweet was about a nice story on a special needs student-athlete-manager in Knoxville. • The other 690-ish re-Tweets were exclusively results from district games/matches and a few schedule changes. While CPA soccer is very active on social media, at no time has @TnDIIAthletics ever been used - nor will it ever be - to promote CPA soccer or anything related to CPA outside of results for games. CPA Soccer was re-Tweeted 11 times over 3 months, all of which were results of district or postseason games. • As a point of reference, DCA Softball was the most active DCA sport specific account on Twitter in the same time period. They posted 11 district or postseason results, of which 10 were re-Tweeted. I missed the 11th and that mistake is on me. • Here are the Twitter "standings" with the number of re-Tweets for the 6 months from December 2018 to present: Counting only the combined Tweets from the athletic department and the school main account 1. TnDII original content - brackets, schedules, etc (70) 2. BGA (64) 3. USN (62) 4. MJCA (50) 5. Clarksville (48) 6. MTCS (46) 7. FRA (45) 8. Goodpasture (40) 9. Friendship (36) 10. Ezell Harding (33) 11. Davidson (22) 12. CPA / DCA (19) 14. Providence (12) 15.Nashville Christian (10) 16. Webb (8) 17. Zion (8) Counting total Tweets from each school including team specific accounts: 1. MTCS (80) 2. TnDII original content - brackets, schedules, etc (70) 3. BGA (67) 4. Clarksville (65) 5. USN (62) 6. CPA (56) 7. MJCA (50) 8. Goodpasture (49) 9. FRA (48) 10. Ezell Harding (45) 11. Friendship (44) 12. Davidson (36) 13. DCA (33) 14. Webb (19) 15. Providence (13) 16. Nashville Christian (10) 17. Zion (8) By the total measurement, CPA didn't even make the top 5 and, by the other, it came in tied for #12 of 17 (tied with DCA). While I make it a policy of not having public arguments online, I felt the need to respond to your general statement of disproportionately promoting CPA, with quantifiable metrics clearly demonstrating no favoritism exists in promoting CPA - or any school - to the detriment of any other member school. All the best to you and to your daughter and the next step in her soccer career. She's a great player and should do well this fall at UTC. JFW
  12. I run the TnDIIAthletics.com website and Twitter accounts on behalf of the DII-A Middle Region schools. And while I am an assistant coach at CPA for boys and girls soccer, I go out of my way to make sure there is no appearance of favoritism or exclusion of any member school, particularly making sure not to favor CPA as I am on the coaching staff. This is the first time I've heard a complaint along these lines from anyone. I would be curious as to what specific examples of where the website or Twitter account "definitely favors CPA" or where other schools are "downright ignored." The purpose of these two is very simple, to get information out related to the schools and teams which are in the Middle Region of Division II-A. The website is updated daily with schedules, results, standings and postseason brackets for 10 sports. The only thing re-Tweeted during the regular season are scores from district games for these 10 sports. During the postseason, brackets are posted along with re-Tweeting results in the Middle Region and at the state final XII level. While some schools and programs are more active in posting their results than others are, if it's posted on any of the 199 accounts I follow, it gets re-Tweeted.
  13. DIIA

    10-A

    No, recruiting is unacceptable as is lying about recruiting. If you know of recruiting violations CA or any school is doing, you should report that to your school administration or directly to the TSSAA. If you or anyone associated with any of these 10-A schools had evidence of recruiting, you should (have) report(ed) it. Had you done this, it would have been unnecessary to resort to your embarrassing cartel-style behavior of refusing to play an opponent, and then declaring those games as forfeits for the opponent you refused to play. Excusing poor behavior with other alleged poor behavior is an example of truly poor behavior. "CA recruits" is an absolute statement which should be backed up by evidence. You have presented none. The statement about how CA "claims to be a Christian School" is bush league and low class. Since providing facts is not your strong suit, here are some facts: • All private schools will play in Division II next year. • CA moving to Division II was not some special decision by the TSSAA to "arrange this move by CA to DII." • A small school beating a large school is not evidence of the small school doing something illegal. • CA girls basketball beat one AAA team this season. Team is singular, teams is plural. • Another 10-A team, Hampshire girls basketball (Class A, 114 enrollment) beat one AAA team this season, Spring Hill (Class AAA, 1164 enrollment). Using the same parameters which you have laid out, the Hampshire program also did something illegal when they beat a school with an enrollment 10x greater than theirs. This is absurd, and an embarrassing argument. • Rocket scientists were not utilized to present these facts, they are self-evident. In some form of irony, the CA girls team was not particularly strong this year so the cartel schools would have achieved the same result without having to cheat.
  14. DIIA

    10-A

    So next year, do they go after Richland? All of the remaining teams next year could refuse to play them and decree forfeits for Richland. Absolutely disgusting this behavior is permitted by the state governing body under the guise of letting each district determine their own tournament format. This was never intended to allow what is taking place here, and this is not the first time as this happened last year in both boys and girls basketball. Permitting this behavior is an endorsement. Bylaws - Article I, Section 9 "All coaches must conduct themselves in a manner becoming of a coach and representative of the school."
  15. DIIA

    10-A

    District 10-A Boys and Girls Basketball bylaws: • Five schools refuse to play one school in the regular season in cartel-style behavior • The school the other five refused to play is given 10 forfeits for the games the other schools refused to play and are seeded last in the district tournament with a record of 0-10 • Semifinal round has 1 vs winner of 3/5 and 2 vs winner of 4/6, in order to make sure certain teams advance out of the district • Seeds 4 and 5 are thrown to the wolves even though one would advance if the tournament format was correct
  16. Some history for those wanting or needing to know about DII and DI classification prior to the quasi-split of public and private schools two years ago beginning with the 2017-18 cycle: • The DII-A and DII-AA split point was based on the Class A and AA split point in Division I. From 2013-17 that was somewhere in the 510 range. For 2017-21 it would have been very similar. • The (3) Division I classes were based on the total number of schools split evenly three ways • When football went to 6 classes for Division I, those numbers were based on splitting the above mentioned three classes each in half. (ex: 1A and 2A each had half the A schools, 3A+4A=AA, 5A+6A=AAA) • The variation to football was when 6A became the "Super 32" class and the remaining schools were split evenly 5 ways All this to say, when the classification meeting took place in July/August 2016 for the 2017-212 period, the general assumption was the DII-A and DII-AA split would remain the same, based on the class A and class AA split, which had always been in the 500-ish range. That was the belief for non-Football sports. DII football (post 2017) was always going to be 3 classes. It is a legitimate point to debate where those split points should have fallen and where they should fall in 18 months. While I was not present for that meeting, I would suspect that like anything where consensus must be reached, compromises had to be made. Dropping the DII non-football split to 450 went in concert with moving DII-AA and DII-AAA spit to 531. The 265/266 split for DII-A and DII-AA was the logical point as it is (a) half of 530 and (b) it put roughly the same numbers of schools in each of the two lower DII football classifications. That 450 non-football number dropping from what would had been 510 impacted only St. Mary's and CCS, the later of which was granted a 2 year exemption, the reasoning of which was never explained. Ensworth and BA were in that range as well, but had always elected to play up, just as they do in football as their actual enrollment would place both schools in DII-AA for football. With all of that in mind... It will be interesting to see what happens in 18 months. If the TSSAA decides to drop DII into two classes for football, the split point will hard to figure out. It can't be 0-530 and 531>>> because the small DII-A schools will get physically pounded every Friday night and they will never go for that. If you split the number of schools evenly with 25 in each class, that puts the split around 305 and has schools like FRA, Goodpasture, Boyd, Knox Grace, and Northpoint playing BA, Ensworth, MBA, MUS, McCallie, Baylor, etc. That's not going to work either. And the current 450 for non-football only nets DII-AAA football three additional schools. Just like in the summer of 2016, the next time will involve compromise from multiple parties, each with varying interests. If DII does drop to only having two football classes for the next 4 year classification cycle, I suspect the split number will fall around 400 which is close to halfway between the two unacceptable extremes of 305 and 530. JFW PS: if this thread continues with good substantive discussion and debate, maybe we can delve into other means of dividing private schools other than simple enrollment numbers. Some of the other states in the southeast have different methods for doing this as well as one creative method which keeps public and private schools together. More on that later.
  17. This is correct. Only possibly exception would be The Webb School in Bell Buckle. They play 8 man football in MTAC but played their first 11 man game this fall. Not sure of their 8 or 11 man status for next fall. JFW
  18. Yes, USJ will be playing football in DII-A for the next two season with a 21% drop in enrollment AND falling below the 265/266 cutoff between A and AA.
  19. This makes sense and looks like a good and workable format for DII-AAA. Where is this coming from? DII-A football is doing some moving around as well with the addition of Grace Christian Academy (Franklin), Columbia Academy, and Trinity Christian Academy.
  20. DIIA

    Showing Class

    That is correct. If enrollment changes +/-20% AND the new number puts a school in a higher or lower classification, then you move up or down.
  21. I don't know if this was a problem on Wednesday or at other fields on Thursday, but for our semifinal match on field #3 Thursday afternoon... We had ballboys/girls at our state semifinal match for part of the first half, then most of them disappeared. Those who remained were appeared to be 7 or 8 years old. It is both inappropriate and unprofessional to put a young child this age into a situation where they are incapable of performing their duties. It's wrong to the young child and wrong to the student athletes competing at the highest level of high school competition. Simply put, this is unacceptable for a marquis level state tournament event. At the beginning of the second half when most of the ballboys/girls could not be found, the fourth official came over to our technical area and asked our head coach if we (our team) were going to provide ballboys for the second half and if not, why not. Our HC explained this being the state tournament, it was not the responsibility of participating teams to furnish ballboys/girls as that is the role of the tournament organizers. Later in the match, this same fourth official called out one of our assistant coaches for "being outside the technical area" of which she was not. She was at the far end of the clearly marked technical area but still within, chasing down a ball as there were no ballboys. This was the same fourth official who on a free kick which resulted in a goal, where the center referee had the wall of the defending team back 14-15 yards, explain and quoting: "the rules say a minimum of 10 yards, the center referee can make it more, 10 is just the minimum." No commentary is necessary on the 10 yards situation as the statement speaks for itself.
  22. DIIA

    Showing Class

    We had ballboys/girls at our state semifinal match for part of the first half, then most of them disappeared. Those who remained were in the around 6-8 year old. It is inappropriate to put a young child into a situation where they are incapable of performing their duties. This is unacceptable for a marquis level state tournament event.
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