Don't know Nathan, you must. Never seen a donation from him. You must stay up at night researching Allan's business associations. When I say other supports or donors, I mean those having nothing to do with Mr. Jones or his businesses or any connection to Mr. Jones. You are the Moron, and glad Coach Kramer done well in Michigan. Answer my question, how many state championships in the 12 straight years, how many state placers, how many state finalist, how many state champions. I don not know, but I would think Cleveland's last 6 year record in all these categories would come close or surpass all Wilson Central's last 12 years. Maybe not, but would be interesting to know. And I will bet that if Knox stays at Cleveland for 12 years or longer with continued success you will still say he didn't build a program.