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I think he also bought them a house and a car. See if you all can find that information.

you are correct, he can't

I had them before you took the time to look them up. I'm not being lazy, just ahead of you.

You are the stupid one, your the one that wants to bet on what Allan checks about his donations to HCWC. Name your amount, I got the documents. You make the dumbest statements and no one on here has seen you back them up.

You said last year in your previous statements, that would be 2023. Now you are on 2021. You just keep rambling about bits and pieces. You have no real facts about HCWC's financial standing. All you want to do is yell Allan's money , Allan's money , Allan's money. And what and why Allan gives to Bradley is his business, not yours or mine.

I will take your bet on providing Allan with information on funds raised by HCWC, he does like to know where his money is going. You have no idea. Show me the grant information for 2023. And what does Ben Smith have to do with HCWC. You act like you are the treasurer of HCWC. Get it right and prove everything you say is true,

Host a Top 100 tournament each year at your school and if you do it correctly you will have more than sufficient funds to run your program. And if you are successful, the donation will also come. You might even fine a Mr. Jones to help your program.

Josh has done an outstanding job and built the program to what it is today. But Higher Calling was started before he got to Cleveland. Mike Hatcher came before Josh and he was helped by ones like Pete Miller and Danny Coleman. Josh has just taken HCWC to a different and higher level. And the building is nice, thank you Allan.

So in your opinion who should have been the #2 seed?

If Summit had placed last year, as they should. This would not be an issue. Sometimes change works for you and sometimes against. Just be careful for what you are asking.

I don't know about all that, but I do know that after 12 matches Cleveland forfeited out to beat Summit in last year's state duals. Cleveland's closest matches were to the team 5 miles down the road, Bradley Central. However after last night it appears that rivalry may not be as intense as in the past.

So Baylor is a want to be best program in the nation and TN wrestling isn't anywhere as good as a ton of states, then why is Baylor not the defending state dual champion. Baylor continues to have some nation level wrestlers, not sure about a nation level program. They may need to hit that transfer portal a little harder.

Also congratulation to Daniel Uhorchuk (Army) 4th at Princeton Open and Jake Stacey (UNA) 3rd, Bentley Ellison (Campbell) 3rd and Logan Heckert (Campbell) 4th at Southeast Open freshman/sophomore division.

Don't know Nathan, you must. Never seen a donation from him. You must stay up at night researching Allan's business associations. When I say other supports or donors, I mean those having nothing to do with Mr. Jones or his businesses or any connection to Mr. Jones. You are the Moron, and glad Coach Kramer done well in Michigan. Answer my question, how many state championships in the 12 straight years, how many state placers, how many state finalist, how many state champions. I don not know, but I would think Cleveland's last 6 year record in all these categories would come close or surpass all Wilson Central's last 12 years. Maybe not, but would be interesting to know. And I will bet that if Knox stays at Cleveland for 12 years or longer with continued success you will still say he didn't build a program.

Not sure what Michigan has to do with Wilson Central and I missed how many state championships were in those 12 straight years. Mr. Jones is a great supporter of Cleveland wrestling and has provided funding for transportation in the past, but one of our other supporters has inked that check the last few years. And you failed to mention the 2 full sets of new mats Cleveland received over the last year. Who inked those checks? You and “related to us” appear to be the Mr Know-it-alls about Cleveland wrestling finances, tell us. Success breeds success and supporters. And last, thanks for mentioning the great support staff Knox has surrounded his self with, Great Coaches do that you know.

No disrespect to Coach Kramer, he has been at Wilson Central longer than Knox has been at Cleveland, so Knox has accomplished more in a shorter period of time. What has Wilson Central done to be a perennial program? Part of making a great program is having a very competitive schedule for your team. Compare the schedules. No one does a better job of putting their wrestlers in situations to compete against better competition than Knox. Big regular season wins and records do not win state titles. Wilson Central was 36-0 and lost to Bradley Central who was 17-5 at the state tournament. The point you all (you) are making does not make since. Both schools have great wrestlers and coaches, but to say one has done more for there program than the other is a joke.

Foreman and Kramer are both quality coaches, but I don't believe they have ever beat Knox.

I am curious to who's coaching salary Mr. Jones pays at Cleveland High? Please share with us the name or names of those Cleveland wrestling coaches. I bet the director and school board of Cleveland City Schools would like to know because I am sure they think they are paying those salaries. Hey, you made the statement.

I believe Cleveland has won 6 years in a row starting in 2018.

Congratulation!!!!!

Wish the best for your son!!!!

Ethan and Jarvis would be a good match and Lipsey should have been the OW.

Which division for last year are you looking?

Well what you are hearing is wrong, you need to listen to LocalHero.

Just for you, regarding your statement about Cleveland coaches getting paid year round to coach. So what does it matter if they are paid or volunteer. Are you saying a volunteer is of lesser value? Summit has coaches that coach year round, Head Coach Pete Miller and others. I do not know if they are paid or not for this extra time. I do know Higher Calling Wrestling Club Inc. pays one coach year round. So don't act like other programs don't coach year round. There are at Fargo, Pre-season nationals, and Super 32 just like Cleveland. Also, Cleveland has numerous anonymous donors, not just one. But then again to quote you "I know more than you think I know", but really you think you know more than you really know. And I did not assume or say you were associated with Summit, I would not in any way, shape or form put that on them.