LXFAN

Baylor #4 in the state, West Knox #6...what happened to all the D-1 teams??? I think this is showing excellent growth in Lacrosse in the State of TN! Way to go guys!

What happened with CBHS, Houston, and Franklin? I thought these teams were building for great seasons based on their records from last year. I reside in franklin and try to catch some of their home games, I heard some mutterings of coaching issues, but I still thought this team had some gusto to at least be .500 this year. Thoughts???

Wait so Brentwood is moving up to D1?

They don't have a choice from what I have heard. Apparently the league voted last year that the d-2 champion has to move up.

yeah thats incorrect

Its correct, I was at that game. Franklin was actually ahead 9-6 in the fourth, and Ravenwood came back to tie the game, then Franklin put it away with a minute left in OT.

ok LXFAN you obviously know nothing about lacrosse. Franklin moved up to D1 for a reason. Father ryan didn't stand a chance from the begining. Ryan is a good team, but not good enough to hang with D1. Ryan had all of their top players, but franklin's defense easily shut down their only play.

Whoa there...I did not mean to insult, I was simply asking about results. I am sorry if I sounded insulting in anyway.

Apparently it was 19-9 Franklin

I figured it would have been a little closer than that, anyone see it? Did Ryan have all their players healthy?

how did the Franklin/Father Ryan game go?

Not that big of a mess since the tiebreaker is determined by head-to-head. So the winner of 2nd Houston/MUS game takes the #1 seed, unless the coaches agreed to play goal differential before the first game.

So wouldn't it be: MUS or Houston-1, MUS/Houston-2, CBHS-3, USN-4?

 

Winner of MBA/McCallie takes the #1 seed in the playoffs. So Fri.'s a big night for TN lax. MBA/McCallie-1, MBA/McCallie-2, Ravenwood-3, Farragut-4

 

Semifinals:

East 1 vs. West 4

East 2 vs. West 3

East 3 vs. West 2

East 4 vs. West 1

 

 

 

How is D2 shaping up?

What if Franklin Beats CBHS????

D-1 West conference is a mess, The east looks like its wrapped up with WBB being the odd man out unless they pull out a win against Farragut, any thoughts on the West?

anyone know the score of the Houston/CBHS game tonight???

Houston 11 CBHS 9

yeah thats the truth...and usn is nothing compared to the actual comptition in d1..theres no point in moving up if you dont have a chance at state

Thats a horrible attitude! You move up to have better competition , excel at the game, and give your team more opportunities. Thats why you move into D-1. D-2 is a developmental division and has done an excellent job producing great teams, but if you have been a team for 10 years or more, I really think you should be in D-1.

Congratulations to the Brentwood Lacrosse Club for their championship win at the Dan Anderson Lacrosse Classic in Birmingham this weekend. A great team effort and a special nod to MVP David Catterton - well deserved honor for terrific goalie play!

 

GO BRUINS!!

Looks Like Brentwood should be heading to D-1 Next year. Lets hope they make the right decision.

I was there, I left with about 7 minutes to play and MBA was up 12-5, so i assume they pulled it off

Ouch....Did MBA look that strong or did Franklin look that bad?

Did MBA and Franklin play today? If so who won, did anyone watch it?

LXFAN, you have to either work for TSSAA or be a government/non-profit employee. Who believes in the fairy tale of "free" money from the government?

Not so much, I actually just went to the TSSAA website and read what they offer, give it a shot.

1. I'm not well versed enough on this point to accurately debate it. I think head coaches have to be employees of the school they work for, but not necessarily teachers. Maybe not though.

 

2. Kids can have fundraisers now. Teams could also currently charge gates if they wanted to. Selling concessions/merchandise/programs is also an option under the current organization. If kids are currently buying they're own equipment, they'll probably continue to buy their own equipment. Do not plan on getting any financial support from the TSSAA or the schools. The money isn't there.

 

3. How does the TSSAA help with scholarhips (which is does not allow), recruiting (which it does not allow), or recognition? The TSLA does a great job recognizing teams and individuals. How does the TSSAA give the game of lacrosse in general an opportunity to grow in popularity? That is a broad statement, and I can't see specifically how lacrosse is any better in the TSSAA than it is in the TSLA.

 

4. These schools are going to continue to have to travel to find competitive games. Even if there was an influx in teams, which I do not think there would be, it would probably look a lot like DII now, which certainly isn't helping out with the competition level in TN. If increased competition is what you seek, DII teams need to start moving up to DI. As for the out of state games, they don't count towards state rankings, but they are certainly real games, and they count on your record just like an in state game.

Kids are buying their own equipment becasue they have too. I am sure if a school were to offer equipment they would take it and have the option to have thier own equipment. The TSSAA does support the program financially. It will sponsor tournaments, offer trophies, etc...You can check that information at http://www.tssaa.org/Handbook/handbook.pdf

When I was referring to Scholarships and recruiting, I was talking about college, not high school programs. TSSAA could help with contacting colleges for high school students. The growth in popularity would grow in Tennessee if there were more teams which would be made possible if it was supported by the state.

As for Travel, after reading over the TSSAA handbook. I noticed that they only allow one road game out of state. I am not a fan of that. I am sure tht rule could be up for discussion though.

I agree that DII teams should move up, but I think the competition in DII is fine within that division. If a team is winning every year, then they should move up to keep the competition level constant.

I am sure we could go round and round for the whole season about this issue, lets agree to disagree and see what happens.

Private schools are certainly not the only people opposed to joining the TSSAA. I don't see how joining a broken bureaucracy that can barely handle the job it has now could possibly help any sport that is trying to mature. How are the kids that can't afford to play now going to be able to play if the TSSAA becomes involved? Where is the money going to come from for schools that don't have teams now to field teams? The TSSAA doesn't have any extra money laying around. They will be glad to receive a portion of the gates from the games though. Adding a massive amount of red tape will not help anything. I can certainly assure you that MBA, McCallie, MUS, and CBHS are not worried about any new competition. If they were scared of losing, they wouldn't be frequently traveling to play some of the best teams in the region/country, and they haven't had any trouble beating public schools any other sports.

1. Coaches do not have to be affiliated with the school to coach...Look at Soccer and Baseball.

2. Some schools would not have the money, but would be inclined to do fundraisers and also could encourage booster clubs to help out. Kids would not have to buy their own equipment, nor would they have large dues every season.

3. Broken Bureaucracy??? Look at all sports! Look at the before and after of the BCS polls, bottom line is this are always people that are not going to like the system, no matter what it is. With TSSAA involved in Tennessee Lacrosse it will not only help grow the program by helping with Scholarships, recruiting, and simple recognition. It will also give the game of lacrosse in general an opportunity to grow in popularity. Kids can watch games in a big football stadium, or maybe get the chance to sell merchandise and and concessions to help fund the program. TSSAA may take proceeds from the gates. That would mean Schools take proceeds as well...correct? Another way for a school to raise money for the program, which they don't have now.

4. Those schools travel because there isn't enough competition in the State...your right. Wouldn't it be nice if they didn't have to travel for more teams and more competition??? Giving kids and schools the opportunity to field teams would bring the competition level up throughout the state. Besides all the out of state games are basically exhibitions, that have no impact on placement or ranking in the State Tournament.

Unfortunately that is an issue that has plagued both public and private shools in Tennessee. MBA used to bus kids all over town for lacrosse practice before they were able to aquire filed space in Sylvan Park. Father Ryan practiced at Palmer Park and the Media Library Field for many years. Until you can get enough parents to create some noise the problem will likely persist. If you can get some football players out for lacrosse and get their parents involved it might help as well.

 

If I'm not mistaken, the Board of the TSLA is happy with the current situation and has little interest in joining the TSSAA ( I don't think the TSSAA is anxious to add lacrosse either). I agree with them, I think the sport can be grown better by those withe a genuine interest than by an institution that has ruined high school football in this state.

Actually...the only people that are against TSLA going TSSAA are members from private schools. if you ask any public school player or coach, I bet every single one of them would be more than happy to be sanctioned. MBA gave buses for their students to ride to practice??? Thats a tough wrap!!! Most of the public schools don't even have 1 BUS that a team can use for away games, and MBA gets them for practices!!! Its almost comical that that is a hardship for MBA.

There is a geniune interest in TSSAA on both ends and I bet that within 3 years we will be sanctioned and it will be the best thing that has ever happened for Tennessee lacrosse. Kids who can't afford to play will be able to play, schools that can't afford a team can have a team, and MBA, MUS, CBHS, Mccallie and schools like that will have a tough time during dealing with all the public teams and athletes that come out of the wood work when this happens.

/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" /> Another Public school, Franklin, joins D-I this year. Will they make an impact in their first year?

 

Pre-season favorite has to be USM - young team last year with no quit in them

# 2 MBA; #3 CBHS (the Bros are overdue) and #4 McCallie (will try to rebound from a dissappointing season last year).

 

#5,#6 & #7 are Franklin, Houston & Ravenwood but could be in any order and could upset one of the favorites

 

Webb, USN, Farragut took a step back last year and I think 2008 will remain a rebuilding year.

 

Should be a great year as D-I continues to build depth in the league.

I think Franklin has a good chance at making playoffs. From that point on they will have step their game up to advance.

Any progress in getting the D-2 games up?

When are the D-2 games going to be up???

Well, you can't really argue with the organization. In the past, they have good talent and just couldn't make anything happen. There was definitly something missing on the playing field. I would think a coaching change will be good for the program, best of luck to Beis though.

Did he quit or get "forced to resign"???

QUOTE(cavlax17 @ May 21 2007 - 02:17 PM) 826464077[/snapback]Yes, I realize that I am posting this with so much bias, but there is no way you can vote against Kurt Snider(cookeville). Yes, Franklin repeated as state championships, but they also had something to the effect of 21 seniors on the team. Cookeville only had 9 seniors. We only have something like 25 players on our team, of which only about 17 really play. If you compare the teams, Kurt has done so much more with what he had. (I am not saying that our team was terrible by any means. I would not trade this season for anything.) Both Franklin and Cookeville both had great senior leadership, but Cookeville definitely had to overcome much more to get to where we are now in lacrosse. We were a team that didn't even make it to the wild card last year, and are the same team as last year. Franklin won the state championship with the same team, so there really wasn't anything new that they could have implemented to not get the same result as last year. I just don't know how you can give it to anyone else but Kurt this year.

That does sound a little bias, but you did admit it. Now, I don't know either of these coaches, I have definitly seen the Franklin Coach more than I have seen the Cookeville coach in action. I feel Hirsch deserved it last year as well, because he basically did what you just described what snider did this year, a great job in both coaches. Franklin, did have a great returning team, but it takes great coaching to get them to that level in the first place. Unfortunatly lacrosse isn't a born trait....its taught. This is what Hirsch does best, if you read the article in the paper about the game 50% of Franklin's goals were by underclassmen......21 Seniors doesn't mean they all play.

I hear Tyler hirsch got Coach of the year from Franklin. Well deserved I think. Bringing back to back Championships isn't easy...I think a move to D1 is inevitable!!!

WOW!!!