which section of tennessee has the best runners?

[gphstrack]

and speaking of hard courses in the east, let's not forget about daniel boone - i'd like to see how the middle and west guys handle running moody hill twice. can't wait to see how they make that course 5k. in my opinion, it's the toughest course in the state.

[AEtheridge]

I agree that Boone's course is the hardest I've run or coached a team on. Unlike at VAP, there's no place to recover at Boone--it's just relentless. At least at Melton Hill Dam you have a long downhill to get your legs back, and at VAP you have the long downhill the beginning of both laps.

 

The hardest course EVER is the old 3 mile course at Melton Hill Park, home of the Big Nasty. Notice the KIL boys don't run it the old way anymore.

[stealthccrunner3200]

anyone ever run the old vaugns gap course. that one killed me

 

u got sideways hill which is a beast, but then right after that u got the hill on the back part of the course, stunk

[thecrippler2222]

Team-wise, it looks like this:

 

In AAA Girls: 6 of the top 10 teams from East

In AAA Boys: 5 of the top 10 teams from the East

 

In A-AA Girls: 8 of the top 10 teams from the East

In A-AA Boys: 6 of the top 10 teams from the East (and the next 2 as well.

 

In DII Girls and Boys it's a little harder to compare because there are so few teams there, but 1st and 3rd in the boys and 2nd and 4th in the girls is pretty good.

 

That's one way to measure it based solely on last year.

 

If you look at the Big Dog individuals, well, they come from the Memphis area and the Nashville area. The Memphis mojo is fairly recent , except for those good CBHS and Frayser teams of long ago, but Nashville has long been good.

 

On balance, I'd go for East. A good team always stays home out of Region II AAA, for example. Last year it was West who stayed home, even though they ended up with a 9:43 3200 runner, a 4:31 miler, and an 8:16 4x8 in track. Two years ago OR girls stayed home even though we'd been ranked in the top 10 all year.

 

in a/aa boys the east only had 5 of the top 10. middle had 4 in the top 7 and the west got 8th.

 

in a/aa girls the had 7 or less cuz i know the middle got 3 in the top 6.

[AEtheridge]

I had MLK in Chattanooga, when it's actually in Nashville.

 

The numbers still favor East.

[corey o'neill]

I agree that Boone's course is the hardest I've run or coached a team on. Unlike at VAP, there's no place to recover at Boone--it's just relentless. At least at Melton Hill Dam you have a long downhill to get your legs back, and at VAP you have the long downhill the beginning of both laps.

 

The hardest course EVER is the old 3 mile course at Melton Hill Park, home of the Big Nasty. Notice the KIL boys don't run it the old way anymore.

 

 

 

wow, i really thought of daniel boone to be a fast course so it help me alot to stay with those who had more endurance then just kick them at the end i never knew so many people thought it was hard on our legs. coach never told this that another mind game there

[Coniglio]

hey what did u run at state.....ok then

state had bad conditions for me both times. the course isn't that exceptionally hard. I don't dread running at PWP

 

I DREAD running at the Dam. Which has 2 monsters and 2 sideways hills. and hills that you climb around a turn and up.

twice.

[thecrippler2222]

state had bad conditions for me both times. the course isn't that exceptionally hard. I don't dread running at PWP

 

I DREAD running at the Dam. Which has 2 monsters and 2 sideways hills. and hills that you climb around a turn and up.

twice.

 

we in the middle section are just kind of sensitive about the steeplechase subject because u guys told us how slow we were because of the times u saw us run on steeplechase and we told u how hard it was running there and why the times were slow and u still said we stunk and that the course is easy then u ran on it urself and the majority of the east guys did even worse than the people from the middle had been doing but still continued to talk about how easy the course was and all that crap

[Coniglio]

the thing with steeplechase is the conditions. the course overall isn't that bad. although it has some very untimely hills I've never had problems with it.

 

Classic I couldn't breathe. I bet every one of you on here beat me that day.

State was hot (after it was in the 40s only days before) and windy.

 

I feel worse after running the Dam than I did Steeple.

[AEtheridge]

I loved running at the Steeplechase when I was a kid in the early 80s and we ran between the hedges: it was fast and pretty flat. I've never liked the course as it has been laid out since about 1987--it's much, much harder than it looks. In fact, if it were lined with trees like VAP or McAlpine, I think we would think it was a fairly hilly course. But since it's totally bare, it looks like it's flat, which it's not. There are also a few places where you have to slow down to make a turn, something you don't think about a lot. Bumbi's 14:14 there just makes me sick every time I think of it!

[Coniglio]

Bumbi's 14:14 there just makes me sick every time I think of it!

tell me about it.

[stealthccrunner3200]

we in the middle section are just kind of sensitive about the steeplechase subject because u guys told us how slow we were because of the times u saw us run on steeplechase and we told u how hard it was running there and why the times were slow and u still said we stunk and that the course is easy then u ran on it urself and the majority of the east guys did even worse than the people from the middle had been doing but still continued to talk about how easy the course was and all that crap

 

 

thats a sensitive subject for sure