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A ref intervened because the fans were clapping too loud?

 

That sounds a little crazy. I've never witnessed fans having a negative impact on the game. I can see why the loud screaming would get annoying, but doesn't it also raise the energy level in the gym and bring out everyone's school spirit? I was there at the Greenbrier game and saw how intense the parents were; they were the opponents but I still enjoyed all the cheering and rhythmic clapping because it made the game more exciting, and motivated our side to cheer for our own team even more.

 

Being one myself, I think fans are an important part of the game. We should appreciate our charismatic fans who show their passion for the sport, right?

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Huge difference in clapping and chanting vs. kicking the bleachers with your heels. The latter will quite possibly get you in trouble, as it's an artificial noisemaker. The former is just good fan involvement.Huge difference in clapping and chanting vs. kicking the bleachers with your heels. The latter will quite possibly get you in trouble, as it's an artificial noisemaker. The former is just good fan involvement.

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Huge difference in clapping and chanting vs. kicking the bleachers with your heels. The latter will quite possibly get you in trouble, as it's an artificial noisemaker. The former is just good fan involvement.Huge difference in clapping and chanting vs. kicking the bleachers with your heels. The latter will quite possibly get you in trouble, as it's an artificial noisemaker. The former is just good fan involvement.

 

 

I dont agree that stomping the bleachers is an artificial noisemaker. I want to see it in the guidelines before I believe it.

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I dont agree that stomping the bleachers is an artificial noisemaker. I want to see it in the guidelines before I believe it.

 

GLJ, here we are again, another year and it did take most of it to get back to this subject. Seems it comes up every year but this year its late and got on some nerves. Seems it is a matter of education and rules as it has been every year. Judgement is normally the answer but this site has been used to educate and maybe it was thought that educating 3 years in a row would take care of it as well as other things. Educating is rules in progress. Once the rules are explained enough, noise under the rules happens and everyone does their thing. Judgement, without something written more specific, keeps everyone in hot water, specifically the officials who have to enforce their own judgement. Crowds get larger and students, doing things which have nothing to do with VB but may have something to do with a rivalry that has come from another sport. Maybe the approach should be, as has been expressed, to encourage crowd noise and fan support and student participation and look at the guidelines, and add a few lines, But to use this Forum to continue to educate and discuss what all of this means.

This is pretty late to do this without some discussion but maybe it is getting closer to STATE and somehow everyone should be on their best behavior when they get to state. Guess discussing the subject should be more proactive and start in August sometime. But officials judgement with as many officials may not get the job done. IMO. need more guidelines

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I dont agree that stomping the bleachers is an artificial noisemaker. I want to see it in the guidelines before I believe it.

 

 

In principle, if the players can't do it, the crowd can't do it. One of the only offensive behaviors I observed from "The Firm" was stomping on the bleachers AS A GIRL WAS TRYING TO SERVE. THAT is disruptive and over the line. The official on that match put a stop to it and rightfully so.

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GLJ - I totally disagree with you on this subject. Let kids have fun and go to these games and be heard. It is part of sports and going to high school. I have been to high school volleyball games in other states and they are way more rowdy than they are here in TN and it is a lot of fun. Girls have to learn to have thick skin and deal with it. You are way too overly concerned about fan involvement. I understand not cursing and the importance of overall good sportsmanship. But, when you play sports, there is an advantage to playing at home. It is not because the refs will "homer" the other team. It is because there are more fans than the visiting team and usually louder and sometimes ridiculously obnoxious. So what? Deal with it. Stomping feet on bleachers - artificial noise? No way!

 

Well, then again, if we go back to the volleyball country club analogy, then maybe we should all start practicing our "soft claps" and whispering during serves. Oh, and maybe we should teach the players to not be so violent on the court when they hit those oh so powerful kills and jump serves. None of this bump set spike stuff. Just bump set bump. And, only underhand serves. Also, instead of teaching the girls to do cheers after nice plays, blocks, aces, etc., they should take a moment to apologize to the other team for making them look bad. That would make the sport nice and clean and wholesome along with all the polite fans. Yeah, that's it!

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Catuballer,

 

I'm all for the kids having fun and burning off all that teen angst and energy BUT....

there should be a clearly defined and accceptable limit to behavior weather at a sporting event or anywhere else. When it becomes disruptive and obnoxious, it is time to rein it in. Or should we all just act like fools??

 

"Home Field Advantage" at least as I understand the term, means that the home team is comfortable in their home environment. They know the quirks of their field/court, the team is relaxed because they didn't have to travel, they see faces they know. Those things give them an advantage. I DOESN'T mean that the visiting team is expected to take on the whole school and everything they can think up.

 

And you MUST be kidding with the "well they do it over there...even worse" statement. Even you can see the pitfalls of that line of reasoning.

 

Let the competition be between your team and my team..and let it get a fierce as it wants within the rules....don't let intentional outside influences affect the outcome.

 

It really is ok to have expectations of reasonable behavior. In fact, a stable,rational society requires it.

 

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