Remind me again about who can recruit ...

[dirkdiggler]

So which private schools can recruit again? I get confused all the time.

 

I'm mainly referring to CAK, Catholic and Webb. Is it Webb that can recruit but not the other two? Vice versa?

[movinonup]

Most schools recruit when you get down to the bottom of it.

 

Privates can have tuition assistance to athletes ONLY if they qualify using an outside firm.

Magnets and considered public and no tuition but can pull students from across city lines.

Publics never RECRUIT --- they TRANSFER

[Metroman]

Technically, no one can "recruit". The difference between D1 and D2 is whether or not the school offers financial aid to athletes. So a school like David Lipscomb here in Nashville can give a student a break on tuition, but that student can't play sports. While a school like Brentwood Academy can let that same student play sports.

 

As for the recruiting, coaches/boosters can't show up to a middle school and offer a kid a scholarship. However, if an athlete comes to them first (at a camp or something), then they can offer a scholarship. It is almost impossible to police and that is why people get so bent out of shape.

[PHargis]

It is also a perception masked by a number of things and it depends on the mission and that is hard to detect. Its true, recruiting is not allowed and sometimes when its found that, whatever kind of school it may be, that a school has run a bus into a community and all of the best athletes, middle school, are now going to the same school some 30 miles a way, not conclusive but the perception. Or in a magnet, the same need exists and athletes are given higher peck on the acceptance roll that what is percieved first come first serve. What is true in regard to this is, whatever and however it happens, the parents DO feel the need for an athlete to attend whatever school.

The other perception is this and its hard to get around this whether its true or not and before the cards and letters start coming in, Private Schools are Businesses and are thought of as businesses and their success depends on the perceived success of whatever field they succeed in whether its premed, law, business, clergy or just a very good citizen. Being an athlete helps and quick success there calls attention to the institution and the student and being able to pick is to the detriment of other institutions in a smaller area. All schools succeed with visable view of the product they produce no matter what school they come out of.

What this should do and IMO is doing is telling all institutions, GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER, increase your expectations of every student, every parent and take no exceptions as to what is expected and provide a way for relief for mistakes in a vigerous journey. Everyone makes mistakes. Students don't transfer or are not recruited if they and their parents are getting their goals achieved with some economy. While this might not be the answer you wanted beiing as specific with schools in an area you have provided, it might be something to think about.

[senator]

Anyone can accept transfers but they first have to follow the rules of TSSAA and second usally they have to have something to offer such as a winning tradition or acedemic excellence or something the family is sold on. This is an act of individual families. Recruiting is a school seeking students for sports or academics specialties that charges tuition and usally religion oriented at high school level and don't rely on public education for their funding. Most of time these students come from differant locations across the country instead of local schools in a paticular area.

[PHargis]

Hey Dirk, you came over and we gave you proper answers but we danced all around your question and the reasons why you asked it. Three school, one can recruit and two can't and I'm assuming that thaey are all after the same Student? What are the circumstances or have we scared you away?

[dirkdiggler]

Yeah, you're right. I didn't exactly get the answer I was looking for (a cut and dry one). LOL

 

I've talked to several coaches in Knox County (middle and high) and they're frustrated with losing so many players to the private schools.

 

I'll leave it at that.

[allamerican2014]

If public school coaches are mad for losing their players to private schools then they should evaluate their own program. I have never heard of a student transfering because they loved their current program. Most of the time they leave an lessor program for a stronger one! If the public school system would pick up their game then the students would stay where they are! As far as an education their is no doubt private schools are better than public. Look at graduation rates, test scores, seniors going to college...private schools are simply better for a childs educational experience in east tennessee.

 

Basically no school can recruit directly but every school is recruiting indirectly with the success of their program. So if a coach wants to start getting "recruits" then they need to start winning games and make the players better in practice.

[fan1997]

Do these schools pay tution for athletes ? All 3 have great academics, I would not blame anyone for sending their children to a school that they thought would help them better prepare for college.

[euler]

Since they are in Division I, CAK and Catholic cannot pay tuition for athletes. Webb can, since they are in Division II. Whether or not Webb does, I don't know; I imagine they do for some athletes at least, but I don't know for sure.

 

No TSSAA school (Division I or Division II) is allowed to recruit. Whether or not any do is up for debate (See the Brentwood Academy vs. TSSAA saga for more information). Catholic has received quite a few accusations of recruiting over recent years, but I've yet to see any real evidence that this has actually occurred. Telling these accusers to send in their evidence to the TSSAA generally quiets these people down.

[riverdaleman]

Someone DID answer your question...NO SCHOOL CAN RECRUIT...you can recruit YOUR ZONED kids but you cannot recruit anyone else and you can recruit YOUR HALLS...EVEN PRIVATE schools cannot recruit so NONE OF THOSE 3 schools can recruit HOWEVER IF you have a successful program and a parent inquires with a coach or administration you can sell your program so if KNOX CATHOLIC is really good in football and a local kid is a good football player they can go to the coach and talk to him and at that point the coach CAN "recruit" but the coach cannot approach the kid or parents

[fiftyfifty]

Someone DID answer your question...NO SCHOOL CAN RECRUIT...you can recruit YOUR ZONED kids but you cannot recruit anyone else and you can recruit YOUR HALLS...EVEN PRIVATE schools cannot recruit so NONE OF THOSE 3 schools can recruit HOWEVER IF you have a successful program and a parent inquires with a coach or administration you can sell your program so if KNOX CATHOLIC is really good in football and a local kid is a good football player they can go to the coach and talk to him and at that point the coach CAN "recruit" but the coach cannot approach the kid or parents

Agree 100%.