Private Schools Recruit... Well Duh.

[dcriverrat]

I'm sure we cheated somehow. Wait, if we're both private how can you tell who's cheating? It looks like it would have been a tie.

I don't think you cheated. My point is if you can pour enough money into a program you are bound to win sooner or later . I think the vast differencences in available money spent is the disadvantage to some teams. I would have liked the TSSAA to have somewhat balanced brackets.I think the teams should be seeded. I think you all followed the rules as they currently are. Just my opinions. Congrats to everyone.

[slimshady]

I don't think you cheated. My point is if you can pour enough money into a program you are bound to win sooner or later . I think the vast differencences in available money spent is the disadvantage to some teams. I would have liked the TSSAA to have somewhat balanced brackets.I think the teams should be seeded. I think you all followed the rules as they currently are. Just my opinions. Congrats to everyone.

 

Misconception is that TSSAA is helping High School Sports...when in fact all they do is punish our Athletes, limiting exposure,rigging the brackets, stealing from the schools gate money, and padding the board members and directors pockets...it sucks

 

AND we are STUCK with it until we can clean house in the TSSAA administration.

[dcriverrat]

Misconception is that TSSAA is helping High School Sports...when in fact all they do is punish our Athletes, limiting exposure,rigging the brackets, stealing from the schools gate money, and padding the board members and directors pockets...it sucks

 

AND we are STUCK with it until we can clean house in the TSSAA administration.

Absolutely!

[GeorgeBailey]

I don't think you cheated. My point is if you can pour enough money into a program you are bound to win sooner or later . I think the vast differencences in available money spent is the disadvantage to some teams. I would have liked the TSSAA to have somewhat balanced brackets.I think the teams should be seeded. I think you all followed the rules as they currently are. Just my opinions. Congrats to everyone.

Interesting. Your response indicates you think there is some huge investment from the school or outside organization. As a parent I can tell you the "investment" is in sweat equity. The school doesn't even provide the funding. Yes, they hold fundraisers and have some generous parents. But for the most part a lot of guys spend a lot of their free time working to make our facilities look top notch. But I'm sure that is what most schools have to do. Our parents pay $8,000 plus to send their kids there. And there is no big foundation or tax dollars. I really think the "money poured into" the program is mostly for aesthetics, not scholarships. Dedication of coaches, players, parents, etc., hard work and commitment, this is the real investment here.

 

By the way I believe Riverside has dominated FC in recent years. And if you'll notice the margin of victory in the championship game was 4 points. I know you hate to lose, but don't blame the loss on anything but the play on the field.

Edited May 26, 2013 by GeorgeBailey

[Mr. Postman1]

My point is that it is not right to pay thousands of dollars to a gifted athlete to play sports for a high school team. It ruins everything high school sports is about. Leave the soliciting, recruting, scholarships, etc. to the colleges and keep high school sports as pure as we can. These kids only get to experience high school sports once in their lifetime. Too many people involved in it nowadays. Coaches, AD's, principals, boosters, etc.

Trojan the point is, who cares if they give assistance. Just don't play against the same public school team you pulled the player from.

[RedRobin]

Trojan the point is, who cares if they give assistance. Just don't play against the same public school team you pulled the player from.

 

Even assuming a kid gets financial assistance at a D2 school (based, by TSSAA rule solely on need, not on merit, either athletic or otherwise), that kid's family is still paying something for him to attend. Any athlete must pay full tuition at a D1 private. Contrast those with an "open-zoned" public, where kids can transfer while paying a mere pittance to attend. I don't understand why you don't seem to have a problem with schools like Beech absolutely trashing their competition using kids from various counties such as Davidson. Check the D1football champs for the past decade or so and I suspect you will find the "open zoned" schools asserting dominance at nearly every level. Do you have a problem with that, or is that ok since you don't see these as the rich ruling class which you seem so fond of disparaging.

 

P.S. I find it funny, though somewhat dangerous, that you don't even seem to realize that the fat-cat bureaucrats (you make how much at the post office???!!!???) were some of the first victims of the Russian revolution.

[Mr. Postman1]

 

 

Even assuming a kid gets financial assistance at a D2 school (based, by TSSAA rule solely on need, not on merit, either athletic or otherwise), that kid's family is still paying something for him to attend. Any athlete must pay full tuition at a D1 private. Contrast those with an "open-zoned" public, where kids can transfer while paying a mere pittance to attend. I don't understand why you don't seem to have a problem with schools like Beech absolutely trashing their competition using kids from various counties such as Davidson. Check the D1football champs for the past decade or so and I suspect you will find the "open zoned" schools asserting dominance at nearly every level. Do you have a problem with that, or is that ok since you don't see these as the rich ruling class which you seem so fond of disparaging.

 

I'm just curious what you think I make. Please post what you assume I make per year then we will compare your assumption to my private counterpart at ups in which I have assumed much of their work load as of late.

 

 

P.S. I find it funny, though somewhat dangerous, that you don't even seem to realize that the fat-cat bureaucrats (you make how much at the post office???!!!???) were some of the first victims of the Russian revolution.

[Mr. Postman1]

Sorry I made the mistake there red robin. Please read my comment and post accordingly.

[RedRobin]

Average salary for all USPS employees is $52,619. Clerks can make an average of $21.66/hour. No college degrees required. All kinds of benefits, including some of the best health insurance in the world. Almost impossible to get fired.

 

You may want to rethink spewing your communist cum socialist rhetoric - that salary would have been cause for execution by the bolsheviks, whose views you seem to think you share.

Edited June 3, 2013 by RedRobin

[Mr. Postman1]

Average salary for all USPS employees is $52,619. Clerks can make an average of $21.66/hour. No college degrees required. All kinds of benefits, including some of the best health insurance in the world. Almost impossible to get fired.

 

You may want to rethink spewing your communist cum socialist rhetoric - that salary would have been cause for execution by the bolsheviks, whose views you seem to think you share.

Look at the average hourly wage for a Privately ran UPS delivery man. They just got a contract to raise they're salary to $35 an hour by the end of the new 5 year contract they are getting. They have the right to strike if they don't like it. You do that at a public institution like the school system or postal service and you will be fired immediately. UPS also pays 0 for their health insurance. They are actually thinking of striking in August due to talk of their copays going up slightly. Go back to the public school comparison. Supposedly private school teachers earn beans yet tuition is still higher than the average American pays per year on their mortgage for 1 child god forbid you have 3 like myself. If I had it todo over 17 years ago I would have chose UPS knowing what they make and what I earn. They have better health benefits and a gauranteed pension at 30 years of $3200 a month plus social security. I promise you the pension is nothing near that at any government agency other than military and workers who started before 1984. Edited June 3, 2013 by Mr. Postman1

[RedRobin]

Look at the average hourly wage for a Privately ran UPS delivery man. They just got a contract to raise they're salary to $35 an hour by the end of the new 5 year contract they are getting. They have the right to strike if they don't like it. You do that at a public institution like the school system or postal service and you will be fired immediately. UPS also pays 0 for their health insurance. They are actually thinking of striking in August due to talk of their copays going up slightly. Go back to the public school comparison. Supposedly private school teachers earn beans yet tuition is still higher than the average American pays per year on their mortgage for 1 child god forbid you have 3 like myself. If I had it todo over 17 years ago I would have chose UPS knowing what they make and what I earn. They have better health benefits and a gauranteed pension at 30 years of $3200 a month plus social security. I promise you the pension is nothing near that at any government agency other than military and workers who started before 1984.

 

You say you would have done it differently, but are apparently not willing to leave USPS for UPS. Hmmm - there must be some reason why you stay, so you should probably think of that while looking with envy as the brown trucks drive by. Perhaps it is because they work their butts off or get sent home while USPS has lifetime appointments?

 

Back to TN high school sports: what do you think of the "unfair advantage" enjoyed by the "open zoned" publics, which have an even bigger advantage than the D1 privates? Where do they fit into your notions of equality for all and do you have a problem when they dominate the state championships against traditionally zoned publics? If so, why do you direct your rants only at the D1 privates? Should the traditionally zoned publics refuse to play the open zoned publics? Should we place them into different categories for state championship purposes?

 

Since you seem to want to include academics in this thread, where do you stand on public magnets, which suck all of the most-qualified kids, teachers and parents away from the traditionally zoned schools? How "fair" is that?

Edited June 3, 2013 by RedRobin

[Mr. Postman1]

To answer your question as to why I don't leave. Just like getting a UPS route you have to wait for sometimes years to get a full-time route at the post office. I worked 4 years before I became full-time. I know a man that worked 15 years before getting a route. Then it takes another 12 years to top out in pay and 15 years to top out in benefits. When you finally top out they try to force you to retire. Many people dont know that public school teachers also go through much of the same. They finally make top pay after 13 or 14 years of working. As far as the argument goes about having a private school around or not is kind of the same argument as having UPS or not. If someone wants to overpay for a service provided publicly for much cheaper then I guess you have right to be stupid with your money. For me, I can't afford to send 3 kids to a private school. That would be around $30000 a year for me. The way I see it, my property taxes I've paid are educating my kids for a reasonable price and will help educate my grand kids for a reasonable price. However, I don't feel private schools should play against public schools. To answer your question about open zone schools like Alcoa, I do feel they have an unfair advantage over other public schools.