Question about Club/Travel Volleyball

[play4keeps]

As far as I know, the 50% rule only applies to basketball, softball and baseball. Somehow the TSSAA has overlooked club volleyball and soccer at this point in time.

 

The thought (at least as far as volleyball is concerned) is that in rural areas a rule like that would limit the ability to participate since there are relatively few clubs. Some clubs are made up totally of HS teams -- girls would have to travel upwards to 2 hours to find a club in a major metro area.

 

If a 50% rule were to be instituted, it would only apply to 15 and up as the TSSAA only has jurisdiction over High School sports.

 

HS coaches are prohibited from coaching their own players in the off season. Many HS coaches can be seen coaching girls that are 14 and under as they are not yet HS freshmen -- that is allowed. I don't know about giving lessons but I would suspect that is also considered 'coaching'.

[Sherm]

What is the rule about how many high school girls from the same high school team can be on a travel/club team? I had heard at one time it was 3, but recently heard 2? Does anyone know? and does this just pertain to 15 and up?

 

Also, if a coach coaches high school, is he/she not allowed to coach any of those girls on a club team? or give lesson to them?

 

Thanks so much!!

[PHargis]

On your TMSSa question for Middle Schools,Look on the TSSAA Home page on the right side at the bottom and you will find about as much information you want to look at and where you might find other information.

Also, a lot of clubs have their own rules as far as how many players from one school can be on a team. So the answer to your question, right now, is that there is no rule but under the clubs disgression and that is good because travel arrangements can be worked out by the club.

Edited September 7, 2012 by PHargis

[clubonlyforus]

I do believe that HS coaches can coach their own players in club in the off season. There is one club in East Tennessee that the director of the club coaches the 18 team and is the head coach of a high school. There have been questions about that in the past to whether or not it is right for this coach to do that. I dont think anything is wrong with it myself. If the players are paying for off season club ball and the coach wants to coach them in the off season, then that is their business not the TSSAA.

 

I would like to know if it is legal or not though, but I doubt it is because it does go on out in the open.

[PHargis]

The only age group that it can happen is after a high school player has used up their high school eligability. You will see that in every club in Tennessee I would expect unless there is a club rule. If for some reason a player uses up their HS eligability at age 17 then the next summer their HS coach can coach them. Most all Club coaches seem to be very careful of this rule. The rule that is most overlooked in club is HS coaching, FOLLOWING, their players on the bench especially if they happen to be directors of a club. Small problem but they are not supposed to do it. It does happen in every sport though. Opinion: HS Coaches who will have the interest in following their players in the summer on their own time while against the rules is admirable. Shows the interest in their craft. Some may do it to increast their skills in their craft and IMO should be allowed in the venue. Purely an opinion.

[bigbluevolley]

Our HS coach coaches a club team that had most of her HS girls on it. Are you saying that's against the rules? Please just a yes or a no. Don't need a long winded answer here.

[clubonlyforus]

I really dont see the problem with it myself. I get a little tired of the government (TSSAA, etc.) telling us what to do and what not to do. If we find a really good coach that happens to coach club and high school, I think that is our business. The only argument I can see against it is it giving an unfair advantage to schools with money. But we have that anyway. At least in East Tennessee, the only school that has really good teams year after year with middle to low income families and very few club players (money), is Anderson County. The others are Hardin Valley, Farragut, Webb, CAK, (sorry if I did not mention them all). These schools have the money to have several players in club anyway. So I dont think it makes any difference about an unfair advantage. That is the only agument I have heard.

 

Please enlighten me to any reasons to the rule.

 

Thanks

[Sherm]

Thanks you---from what I understand then, as of now, it's up to the clubs. It does make sense for the rural schools.

[PHargis]

Except for high School Coaches tp Coach their own players in the 9th 10th a 11th grade. Since there are so many variations of what you are asking and this site does not want to cause anyone to be ineligible, I would suggest you call the TSSAA in Hermitage to get specific information as to what you are trying to accomplish and they will absolutely steer you in the right direction. Volleyball is a very high caliber sport as you know and direcftiosn should be able to be given to meet just about any economic situation that can be found. You will find volleyball help in just about any rural community but it may not meet the caliber of what you are wanting. Try it first and if not your style, reach out a little further and you likely find what you want. No shortage of great teachers of volleyball in E. Tennessee, Middle Tennessee or W. Tennessee. Its a great game, Try it and you'll find your player will love it.