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I believe 6 are from Alliance, here is what I have heard for the 16-1.

OH, MB, RS, Setter, Libero, DS - Alliance (6)

OH -  Mid TN (1)

OH/DS - K2 (1)

MB - Not sure what club last year, Siegel (1)

Havent heard about a possible 10th player.

 

 

 

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14 hours ago, VBDad615 said:

I believe 6 are from Alliance, here is what I have heard for the 16-1.

OH, MB, RS, Setter, Libero, DS - Alliance (6)

OH -  Mid TN (1)

OH/DS - K2 (1)

MB - Not sure what club last year, Siegel (1)

Havent heard about a possible 10th player.

 

 

 

Thanks for the clarification.

Big training session this weekend in Munciana this weekend for TPV 16's and 18's.  Sunday they scrimmage Munciana's 1 and 2 teams, Munciana out of Indy, KiVA Red, and Far Out.   

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On 11/26/2018 at 1:53 PM, TeeterTot said:

13's - Nobody in the state can touch Alliance's 13's.  This team has won several regional tournaments the past couple years and finished 3rd twice last year in large National tournaments.  They even won Bluegrass as 11's

14's K2, no competition.  TPV just does not have hitters at this age

15's - Agree with Memphis VBA with K2 a very close 2nd.  Be interesting to see how Alliance does this year.  Their top player moved to TPV and plays on the TPV 16's

16's - TPV will give K2 a serious run here.  I disagree with Alliance having a ball control advantage over TPV.  Alliance lost to TPV their best hitter, defensive player (Both these girls will play in college power conferences), both setters from their 1 team last year are no longer in the program (the 6'4 setter went to TPV and their 2nd setter decided not to play this year).  

17's - Alliance

18's - Alliance

K2 18s are pretty tough as well. Many D1 commits and several that have been playing on 18s already for 1 or more years.

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13's - Nobody in the state can touch Alliance's 13's.  This team has won several regional tournaments the past couple years and finished 3rd twice last year in large National tournaments.  They even won Bluegrass as 11's

 

16's - TPV will give K2 a serious run here.  I disagree with Alliance having a ball control advantage over TPV.  Alliance lost to TPV their best hitter, defensive player (Both these girls will play in college power conferences), both setters from their 1 team last year are no longer in the program (the 6'4 setter went to TPV and their 2nd setter decided not to play this year).  

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* Teeter Tot - good insights about other Clubs and their top age group teams!  Last season, did Alliance 12-1 play K2 and Mid-TN 12 teams at all?  How did those matches turn out?

 

* pgd66 - thank you for the input.  Cain, Cherney, Hames, Keeble and Mersman make a good nucleus on the K2 18's.  Consensus seems to indicate the 14's/16's/18's will be very strong this coming season.  K2 does a great job each year in getting their kids recruited and committed to good programs.  

 

16's:

If K2 stayed intact, it may still be K2 / TPV / Alliance in that order as the top 16's team in Tennessee given the division of talent in middle TN between Alliance and TPV. 

Regarding Alliance and TPV, it appears that:

TPV has advantages at 1) libero  2) offensively at pin hitting and 3) setter. 

Alliance has advantages at 1) middle  2) back row defender depth and 3) "Open" tournament level Coaching.  

* the top two middles stayed with the Alliance program which will help. 

* none of TPV's pins or middles were able to successfully play 6 rotations for their teams in Open level competition last season.  

* TPV's #2 (or #3) DS played on Alliance's #2 team but has not played Open level competition in several years / if K2 hitter-DS indeed joins the team, that could be a big help defensively

* TPV setter may end up being recruited as a right side hitter versus a setter - could be the #1 scorer in terms of efficiency on this team.

* a well-coached and skilled serving opponent could succeed against TPV - Libero will be heavily counted on for serve-receive / passing / out of system setting.

 

18's:

Alliance and K2 (let the "head to head" contests decide). 

TT - would you report on this thread about the TPV 16's team and 18's teams from their play at the upcoming training with Munciana - is that this coming weekend or the following weekend?  

 

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Alliance 16's (15's from last year) didn't lose their best defensive player.  she is back and should be their libero again this year--she will be a power conference libero.  Morgan was playing up and is about the same level as her--they are both very skilled. Alliance did lose one of their DS however (I forget her name, she goes to Ravenwood I think),  and I have heard she is playing 18-2.  I could be wrong about that.  16's will be as good as they were last year defensively IMO.   The interesting thing about that team last year is that they didn't perform all that good really.  I don't think they beat very many, if any, high quality teams.  Their two setters (from last year) were a liability defensively.  I think the new Setter for alliance this year is better defensively then both of last years, and def better then the #2 setter.  There is no replacing Claire's block/setting for sure.  Losing Shay and Claire is the only really hard loss.  THe big question this year for the 16s alliance team is can their OHs serve receive.  The K2 team is good for sure.  I look forward to seeing them play.  They have a very good setter.

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On 11/28/2018 at 2:24 PM, Apostle said:

 

TT - would you report on this thread about the TPV 16's team and 18's teams from their play at the upcoming training with Munciana - is that this coming weekend or the following weekend?  

 

I didn't get to see much of the 18's due to the schedule.  The 16's took it to KiVA Red in the first match. KiVA's first 7 shots where cleanly blocked, several more blocks after that......completely changed how KiVA played.  Muciana 16's were next and they are good.  They beat TPV but it wasn't by much.  TPV was exchanging blows but Munciana was a better team.  Last game was against Far Out from Grand Rapids and TPV handled them like they did KiVA.  

 

The Saturday training was ran by the Munciana coach and I've never seen training like it.  90 minutes of up tempo, hard practice, sit for 90 minutes, then do it again and again.  Was supposed to replicate tournament play where you play then sit then play.   

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On ‎11‎/‎28‎/‎2018 at 4:32 PM, clifford20 said:

Alliance 16's (15's from last year) didn't lose their best defensive player.  she is back and should be their libero again this year--she will be a power conference libero.  Morgan was playing up and is about the same level as her--they are both very skilled. Alliance did lose one of their DS however (I forget her name, she goes to Ravenwood I think),  and I have heard she is playing 18-2.  I could be wrong about that.  16's will be as good as they were last year defensively IMO.   The interesting thing about that team last year is that they didn't perform all that good really.  I don't think they beat very many, if any, high quality teams.  Their two setters (from last year) were a liability defensively.  I think the new Setter for alliance this year is better defensively then both of last years, and def better then the #2 setter.  There is no replacing Claire's block/setting for sure.  Losing Shay and Claire is the only really hard loss.  THe big question this year for the 16s alliance team is can their OHs serve receive.  The K2 team is good for sure.  I look forward to seeing them play.  They have a very good setter.

"The interesting thing about that team last year is that they didn't perform all that good really.  I don't think they beat very many, if any, high quality teams"

I talked with parents who thought that, in the past several seasons, the team responded to and performed best when their Coach worked hard at putting players in the best position for success and sincerely enjoyed watching the kids' succeed.  The team tended to underperform their ability when their Coach did not care about on-court success and lost interest in them when the team did not play well. "Coaching personality" seemed to really matter to this group. 

Regarding your negative comments and comparisons about certain players, parents disagreed with your opinions.

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Apostle, so you are saying it was the coaches fault that the 15's last year underperformed?  And that the coaches last year and before didn't care about results, didn't put kids in a position of success, and didn't enjoy seeing them succeed?    I also didn't indicate anything negative about the players.   While I agree the coaching change last year was disruptive I don't agree that the coaches didn't care about those things.  Athletes have to perform.   It's a ridiculous statement that a coach didn't want success for the team.  I am always amazed when I hear parents break down a season, they literally have no idea what they are talking about 90% of the time.  Have no idea why sub is being made and no idea why a rotation is set for any particular match.  I heard a parent complaining about their child not playing OH the other day...they were talking about how great of a hitter their kid was.  Problem was that kid could not serve receive at all.  and also could not cover a opposite tip/cut if they had to.    That's why she is a middle and not an OH.  She looked at me like she had no idea what I was talking about.  So spare me on what parents thought about a coaches intentions.  ALL those 2 coaches wanted last year was success for the kids. 

Also--Thenoise, your statement was inaccurate.  TPV didn't go 5-0 against Alliance.  I have no idea what the record was, but I know that TPV did lose at least one match to an Alliance team.  It was a "2" team if I remember correctly. 

 

On a positive note, I thought that the TPV teams looked really good.  Can't tell you how happy it makes me that we have another really good club in the area.  it is going to help our level of play so much.

I thought the 16's TPV team looked really good, especially on the PIN.  The middles are just ok.  It's going to exciting to see how they perform.  I also thought the 16's alliance team looked decent.  Honestly, better than I anticipated.  Don't get me wrong, they aren't great.  Their setting, one of the middles and the Libero looked good.  The PINS were really inconsistent and the OHs better figure Serve Rec out...that is what killed them against TPV.   

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Actually, we were both wrong. Alliance teams played TPV teams 6 times Saturday and 5 times Sunday. Saturday they went 0-6, Sunday they bounced back and went 3-2 head to head. Results are below taken from AES, exciting to finally see the two clubs play after the last year and a half of talk and back and forth. The game in middle TN is better for it. 

 

Saturday

13 Airborne lost to TPV-13 Yankee 25-11, 25-21

14 Molten lost to TPV-14 Yankee 25-12, 25-17

14 Premier lost to TPV-14 Foxtrot 25-21, 25-20

15 Airborne lost to TPV-15 Alpha 25-7, 25-9

15 Premier lost to TPV-15 Liberty 25-12, 25-14

16 Molten lost to TPV-16 Liberty 21-25, 25-21, 15-9

 

Sunday

13 REN won vs TPV 13-Zulu 25-11, 25-18

13 Molten won vs TPV 13-Yankee 25-22, 15-25, 17-15

14 Molten lost to TPV 14-Zulu 25-12, 25-19

16 REN lost to TPV 16-Alpha 25-16, 25-18

16 REN won vs TPV 16-Liberty 25-22, 23-25, 15-10

 

 

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