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46 minutes ago, SoutheastTNHoops said:

I know a lot of teams from other states that come to Tennessee to find good competition. Bradley played teams from Georgia, Kentucky. Won the Ladies Classic in Greeneville that was a lot tougher then that Alabama tournament you went to. Heck, they even played Houston and Arlington and beat them both by 16 points in the first ever East/West Classic ! This web site we are own right now says Bradley had the 3rd toughest AAA schedule in the state. In general there are a lot of bad teams and programs in Rutherford County. The best team in the state was Riverdale. No one else should be talking how they play a tougher schedule.

If Riverdale or whatever Ruco top school is the measuring stick for girls basketball, why not schedule them to see how you match up with the top teams in the state year in year out.  It will improve your chances during the tournament time.  Unfortunately, coached are concerned about their perfect record and they often have an early exit year in year out in the class house.  

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17 hours ago, UCSportsFan said:

You were joking with this post right?  Riverdale bought and paid for this state championship just like Shelbyville did back in the day.  Most of these high profile players came from the AAU circuit and those of us that know a little about girls basketball in middle Tn know this to be a true statement.  Where did Alexander transfer in from?

You are fun to go back and forth with every now and then on these boards, but your post like this one and that 7A runs girls basketball get pretty old....

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1 hour ago, SoutheastTNHoops said:

I know a lot of teams from other states that come to Tennessee to find good competition. Bradley played teams from Georgia, Kentucky. Won the Ladies Classic in Greeneville that was a lot tougher then that Alabama tournament you went to. Heck, they even played Houston and Arlington and beat them both by 16 points in the first ever East/West Classic ! This web site we are own right now says Bradley had the 3rd toughest AAA schedule in the state. In general there are a lot of bad teams and programs in Rutherford County. The best team in the state was Riverdale. No one else should be talking how they play a tougher schedule.

Ok so let me frame it a different way. previous comment that Riverdale bought their championship aside. There are a handful of things you can look at within any sport. 1 Talent (either it is on par with others or not 2. Coaching  (either they are getting the best fundamentals, conditioning and training  or not ) and the last option is preparedness  How prepared is a team , are they playing like talent or better to stretch them and make them grow or are they playing a softer weaker schedule that might present a challenge or two .  Of those three areas to help build the best team what would you look at to help you get over that hump? No doubt Bradley has a good team, so what is the stumblig block that keeps them from getting where the want/deserve to be?

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58 minutes ago, Blaze45 said:

Ok so let me frame it a different way. previous comment that Riverdale bought their championship aside. There are a handful of things you can look at within any sport. 1 Talent (either it is on par with others or not 2. Coaching  (either they are getting the best fundamentals, conditioning and training  or not ) and the last option is preparedness  How prepared is a team , are they playing like talent or better to stretch them and make them grow or are they playing a softer weaker schedule that might present a challenge or two .  Of those three areas to help build the best team what would you look at to help you get over that hump? No doubt Bradley has a good team, so what is the stumblig block that keeps them from getting where the want/deserve to be?

It was not because a weak schedule. I would say riverdale had the most talent. I would also say Bradley was the 3rd or 2nd best team in the state. So what is your point? They beat Houston by 17 in December and lost by 3 in March. Both on neutral floors.  The (3) points you brought up could be said to any team. BCHS had the best player in the state, but 7 or 8 other teams could say they had as much talent. One call here one call there and BCHS is playing Riverdale. Had 1 point lead with 40 seconds left when Howard cleanly stole the ball , and was whistled for her 5th foul. She was headed for a layup and Bradley up 3 with probably 30 seconds left. Same ref that called the technical. But anyhow, not sure why you assume BCHS is not getting their team to try and win a state championship. Look at their schedule ranking (3) in state. Beat 3 of the teams in regular season that played in AAA state tournament. Took on region 4 second best team and won by 30 ! If this was a jury trial you would be the loser .

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5 minutes ago, MAD SCIENCE said:

It was not because a weak schedule. I would say riverdale had the most talent. I would also say Bradley was the 3rd or 2nd best team in the state. So what is your point? They beat Houston by 17 in December and lost by 3 in March. Both on neutral floors.  The (3) points you brought up could be said to any team. BCHS had the best player in the state, but 7 or 8 other teams could say they had as much talent. One call here one call there and BCHS is playing Riverdale. Had 1 point lead with 40 seconds left when Howard cleanly stole the ball , and was whistled for her 5th foul. She was headed for a layup and Bradley up 3 with probably 30 seconds left. Same ref that called the technical. But anyhow, not sure why you assume BCHS is not getting their team to try and win a state championship. Look at their schedule ranking (3) in state. Beat 3 of the teams in regular season that played in AAA state tournament. Took on region 4 second best team and won by 30 ! If this was a jury trial you would be the loser .

You might want to read the whole board. I never said the were not trying and I had them picked to play Riverdale. Everyone was on here jumping up and down about fire the coach... Someone else said someone asked him why RuCo was always consistently good. He mentioned  strength of schedule.  I don't have a dog in the fight at Riverdale, but some clown said Riverdale bought their championships. i agreed that it makes a difference . You can't play in your backyard and think you are world beaters.... Never said that was all Bradley did.... then one of your fine fans said Blackman needed to play a tougher schedule rather than the teams in the district (That all being said you can fire the guy, throw him a ticker tape parade and tell everyone you were jipped out of a chance... I pointed out basic truths about every team and every sport.  Top talent, top coaching and being prepared always drives results.  No one said you don'y have all three, you just didn't have one of those when you played Houston in one of the three games.

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3 hours ago, Blaze45 said:

Ok so let me frame it a different way. previous comment that Riverdale bought their championship aside. There are a handful of things you can look at within any sport. 1 Talent (either it is on par with others or not 2. Coaching  (either they are getting the best fundamentals, conditioning and training  or not ) and the last option is preparedness  How prepared is a team , are they playing like talent or better to stretch them and make them grow or are they playing a softer weaker schedule that might present a challenge or two .  Of those three areas to help build the best team what would you look at to help you get over that hump? No doubt Bradley has a good team, so what is the stumblig block that keeps them from getting where the want/deserve to be?

Sure looks like your talking straight to Bradley. I just went back and read some of the post. Your a blackman parent or fan. You giving the same advice to your coach? What werte the stumbling blocks that kept them from winning a state championship? Was it talent, coaching ,or not being prepared? Was it all three? I can't wait to hear your reply . Rutherford county over all is not that great. One team is, Riverdale. Blackman, Oakland a little better then most. Stewarts Creek pretty good. Siegel Bad, LaVergne bad, Smyrna Bad. Middle Tn christian , not sure.

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21 minutes ago, MAD SCIENCE said:

Sure looks like your talking straight to Bradley. I just went back and read some of the post. Your a blackman parent or fan. You giving the same advice to your coach? What werte the stumbling blocks that kept them from winning a state championship? Was it talent, coaching ,or not being prepared? Was it all three? I can't wait to hear your reply . Rutherford county over all is not that great. One team is, Riverdale. Blackman, Oakland a little better then most. Stewarts Creek pretty good. Siegel Bad, LaVergne bad, Smyrna Bad. Middle Tn christian , not sure.

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22 minutes ago, MAD SCIENCE said:

Sure looks like your talking straight to Bradley. I just went back and read some of the post. Your a blackman parent or fan. You giving the same advice to your coach? What werte the stumbling blocks that kept them from winning a state championship? Was it talent, coaching ,or not being prepared? Was it all three? I can't wait to hear your reply . Rutherford county over all is not that great. One team is, Riverdale. Blackman, Oakland a little better then most. Stewarts Creek pretty good. Siegel Bad, LaVergne bad, Smyrna Bad. Middle Tn christian , not sure.

Yep you got me there skippy... Blackman opened in 2000 has made as many appearances as Bradley has in that same time frame  However we did something you haven't in that time frame  Won two state championships and yes a national championship as well  Now you  bash all you want  but numbers don't lie Last 9 years it has been Blackman, Oakland and/or Riverdale playing for the title.  BTW Smyrna has been to the championship, Oakland, has as well since you last played for one. You can put that in your pipe and smoke it there Chief Cries alot. Yes I would say the same thing to Blackman coach, Either they had more talent , better coached or were better prepared. Run along now and give everybody a trophy and capri suns. 

 

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5 minutes ago, Blaze45 said:

Yep you got me there skippy... Blackman opened in 2000 has made as many appearances as Bradley has in that same time frame  However we did something you haven't in that time frame  Won two state championships and yes a national championship as well  Now you  bash all you want  but numbers don't lie Last 9 years it has been Blackman, Oakland and/or Riverdale playing for the title.  BTW Smyrna has been to the championship, Oakland, has as well since you last played for one. You can put that in your pipe and smoke it there Chief Cries alot. Yes I would say the same thing to Blackman coach, Either they had more talent , better coached or were better prepared. Run along now and give everybody a trophy and capri suns. 

 

Will which one is it for blackman this year. Talent, Coaching, unprepared ?

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10 minutes ago, MAD SCIENCE said:

Will which one is it for blackman this year. Talent, Coaching, unprepared ?

All three... They were not exceptionally big  and did not  post up well when they should of had position. They forced shots and did not move  the ball all that well. The coaching was good, but at times safe and predictable . They didn't make adjustments like they did when Dangerfield and Bond were playing. and looked at times as if they were not as well conditioned as the should be (prepared) See I can admit where we were not as talented ready or prepared... can you? If you can't I will help you... You let Houston win the battle of the boards... and got lazy in transitions and gave up too many easy points otherwise you would have been playing Riverdale as I thought you would . .. Now is that coaching, talent or prepared... You oughta know the answer to that ... 

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6 minutes ago, MAD SCIENCE said:

Will which one is it for blackman this year. Talent, Coaching, unprepared ?

I would say blackman has done pretty well in their time of being open. But so have some other schools. Bradley is one of them. No reason to rain on other peoples success.  Bradley has a winning record head to head with blackman in the all time series. But I'm not on this message board gloating about it, or trying to tear someone else program down. It's fine to be proud of your school, but don't think your out working everybody else. Skippy comment says a lot about who you are and what you stand for. Back to the question. Was it talent, coaching or unprepared that kept blackman from reaching their goal this season?

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8 minutes ago, Blaze45 said:

All three... They were not exceptionally big  and did not  post up well when they should of had position. They forced shots and did not move  the ball all that well. The coaching was good, but at times safe and predictable . They didn't make adjustments like they did when Dangerfield and Bond were playing. and looked at times as if they were not as well conditioned as the should be (prepared) See I can admit where we were not as talented ready or prepared... can you? If you can't I will help you... You let Houston win the battle of the boards... and got lazy in transitions and gave up too many easy points otherwise you would have been playing Riverdale as I thought you would . .. Now is that coaching, talent or prepared... You oughta know the answer to that ... 

Good answer. I did not see that before i posted my last post.

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