Super 32 on the way back?

[ocac]

21 hours ago, Indian said:

 

I don't see it happening, ever, but I'd like to see them at least study a strength system or a combined strength and enrollment system. Without getting too much into it, here's what 6A would look like, strength over several years and enrollment. Number is average statewide power rating and ranking in enrollment. There could be measures in place to keep teams from dropping more than 1 or 2 classes of what they'd be in enrollment classes, or rising more than 1 or 2. 

Private schools are excluded, the reason for some gaps in the numbers. 

Oakland, 2173, 10+3=13, average 6.5

Blackman, 2175, 9+7=16, average 8

Science Hill, 2248, 5+20=25, average 12.5

Maryville, 1684, 37+2=39, 19.5 average

Dobyns Bennett, 2208, 6+34=40, average 20

Whitehaven, 1738, 32+9=41, average 20.5

Ravenwood, 1772, 28+12=40, average 20

Farragut, 1734, 33+14=47, average 23.5

Riverdale, 2020, 19+32=51, average 25.5

Cordova, 2267, 3+50=53, average 26.5

Mt Juliet, 2145, 12+41=53, average 26.5

Cookeville, 2203, 7+47=54, average 27

Independence, 1677, 36+19=55, average 27.5

White Station, 2155, 11+44=55. average 27.5

Brentwood, 1754, 30+27=57, average 28.5

Hardin Valley, 2035, 17+39=58, average 29

Franklin, 1745, 31+29=60, average 30

Smyrna, 1857, 25+37=62, average 31

Cane Ridge, 1646, 39+24=63, average 31.5

Centennial, 1667, 38+26=64, average 32

Bradley Central, 1705, 35+33=68, average 34

Bearden, 2063, 14+55=69, average 34.5

Ooltewah, 1537, 46+25=71, average 35.5

Germantown, 2027, 18+54=72, average 36

Hendersonville, 1531, 47+29=76, average 38

McGavock, 2266, 4+75=79, average 39.5

Oak Ridge, 1387, 58+21=79, average 39.5

Rhea County, 1489, 51+28=79, average 39.5

Collierville, 2372, 2+82=84, average 42

Arlington, 2042, 16+70=86, average 43

John Overton (Nashville), 1907, 21+69=90, average 45

Knoxville West, 1355, 65+31=96, average 48

Henry County, 1368, 62+36=98, average 49

Hillsboro, 1238, 76+22=98, average 49

Cleveland, 1546, 45+55=100, average 50

Jefferson County, 2185, 8+94=102, average 51

Morristown West, 1551, 44+58=102, average 51

Houston, 1865, 24+80=104, average 52

Siegel, 1782, 27+80=107, average 53.5

Memphis Central, 1552, 43+64=109, average 54.5

Wilson Central, 1876, 23+92=115, average 57.5

Rossview, 1611, 40+79=119, average 59.5

Fulton, 987, 112+11=123, average 61.5

Ridgeway, 1200, 81+43=124, average 62

McMinn County, 1556, 42+84=128, average 64

Campbell County, 1385, 59+75=134, average 67

Gallatin, 1508, 49+88=136, average 68

Lavergne, 1813, 27+109=136, average 68

Beech, 1139, 91+47=138, average 69

I wouldn't mind seeing TSSAA throw in the factor of Free & reduced lunch programs into the equation when deciding classification.  Don't just base it on enrollment or public/private.  This info is easily accessible and is required by every public school system in the country.  If a school has a certain % (high) of free & reduced lunch, they should be able to play down a classification.  This would really help the higher enrollment rural schools.  It would not affect the smaller schools as much because there is nowhere else for them to go as far a classification.  If a school has a certain% ( lower)  Free & reduced lunch number, they must play up a classification.  Gathering this info is just as easy as getting enrollment #s.  It will never happen, but some states do this to help determine classification.

[Solomon]

1 hour ago, ocac said:

I agree.  Based on most 1st round games, TSSAA gets very little and the schools even less.  HOF games or week 11 games...TSSAA and schools will make more $. 

Personally I'd like to go to only 16 teams making the playoffs each class, but that will never happen.

[ocac]

1 minute ago, Solomon said:

Personally I'd like to go to only 16 teams making the playoffs each class, but that will never happen.

I like the idea of an 11 game schedule also because our kids are only guaranteed 10 ball games and it could be over before they even turn around, especially if they do not make playoffs.  This gives the kids an extra game to play, TSSAA makes bank and the schools make a little bit as well.

[Solomon]

2 minutes ago, ocac said:

I like the idea of an 11 game schedule also because our kids are only guaranteed 10 ball games and it could be over before they even turn around, especially if they do not make playoffs.  This gives the kids an extra game to play, TSSAA makes bank and the schools make a little bit as well.

Right now there is a really good chance a winless team is going to make the playoffs in 4A because their region only has 4 teams. And that's ridiculous. Several 1 win teams have made it, but this will take it to a new level.

[ocac]

4 minutes ago, Solomon said:

Right now there is a really good chance a winless team is going to make the playoffs in 4A because their region only has 4 teams. And that's ridiculous. Several 1 win teams have made it, but this will take it to a new level.

That would not be good for anyone.  lol

 

[CHSAlum04]

I like Super 32. Lets 0-10 Warren County come play 10-0 Maryville in first round. That's always a good matchup when them and White COunty come to play Red Rebels and the hot bed of recruits that live in Maryville City Population 5-Star.

[bounder]

I do not see what free or reduced lunches have to do with playing sports. Except students get free or reduced breakfast or lunch. Which they should. It shouldn't have anything to do with sports. 

[RebelAtHeart]

Heck, why not setup a super 32 for each division... take the top 4 seeds from each district this year and make that the "32 bracket" for the following season.  After the next season finishes, replace the bottom 8 teams in the "32 bracket" with the 8 district champs left in the "Lessors bracket" from each division.  Rinse and repeat every year.  Force schools and coaches to hire extra staff to manage the scheduling headache this would create every year.  Give gold balls to the "32 bracket" champs from each division and to the "Lessor bracket" champs in each division.  More gold balls... more champs... more $$ for T$$AA.  I'm sure it would be awesome and sustainable! 

[GREYRIDERx]

41 minutes ago, Solomon said:

Right now there is a really good chance a winless team is going to make the playoffs in 4A because their region only has 4 teams. And that's ridiculous. Several 1 win teams have made it, but this will take it to a new level.

Yep a new level of ridiculous

[GREYRIDERx]

4 minutes ago, RebelAtHeart said:

Heck, why not setup a super 32 for each division... take the top 4 seeds from each district this year and make that the "32 bracket" for the following season.  After the next season finishes, replace the bottom 8 teams in the "32 bracket" with the 8 district champs left in the "Lessors bracket" from each division.  Rinse and repeat every year.  Force schools and coaches to hire extra staff to manage the scheduling headache this would create every year.  Give gold balls to the "32 bracket" champs from each division and to the "Lessor bracket" champs in each division.  More gold balls... more champs... more $$ for T$$AA.  I'm sure it would be awesome and sustainable! 

Kinda of like a particupation trophy?

[GREYRIDERx]

27 minutes ago, ClarkGriswild said:

I like Super 32. Lets 0-10 Warren County come play 10-0 Maryville in first round. That's always a good matchup when them and White COunty come to play Red Rebels and the hot bed of recruits that live in Maryville City Population 5-Star.

Na nana na na

[GREYRIDERx]

48 minutes ago, ocac said:

I like the idea of an 11 game schedule also because our kids are only guaranteed 10 ball games and it could be over before they even turn around, especially if they do not make playoffs.  This gives the kids an extra game to play, TSSAA makes bank and the schools make a little bit as well.

I think the point is win enough games to get to play possibly 5 more...what ya think?