Three classes in Division II

[RaisedEmRightNStillPraying]

1 hour ago, Spartan4Life said:

The difference between privates is huge! A BA is way different than a Silverdale despite having similar numbers. If you know anything about private ball you can’t just lump them all together. The differences are huge in philosophy and recruiting. Much more different than public’s. Some programs would be run straight into the ground if they were asked to play against the best teams in the state every week. 

Did you really say "RECRUITING?" Didn't think that was allowed in any division......  

Two divisions is the right thing to do. All of these teams with losing records don't need to be in the playoffs in Div II, including ours if we end up 4-6.

[Spartan4Life]

12 minutes ago, RaiseEmRightnPray said:

Did you really say "RECRUITING?" Didn't think that was allowed in any division......  

Two divisions is the right thing to do. All of these teams with losing records don't need to be in the playoffs in Div II, including ours if we end up 4-6.

Well if that’s the case there should only be 4 public’s classifications because there are some teams with losing records in there as well. 

[bigchief]

6 minutes ago, Spartan4Life said:

Well if that’s the case there should only be 4 public’s classifications because there are some teams with losing records in there as well. 

agree completely. Eliminate  the  participation trophy

[BreadTruck28]

Two divisions would be nice, but student population isn’t the best way to sort each school. AA should be unlimited financial aid to athletes. A should be regulated based on the financial aid budget for athletes based on a percentage of tuition cost of aided athletes across all schools regardless of the range of tuition. 

[Booger]

2 hours ago, Spartan4Life said:

Well if that’s the case there should only be 4 public’s classifications because there are some teams with losing records in there as well. 

dang Sparty......your lookin genious......Childress and his group of cerebral cronies ant lettin it b no 4 classess.....too much money in there post season casket to b screwed with.......

....the more watered down he an his side kick Gillepsie can make it the better for the TSSAA...u noticed the post season gates the last few years

.....u cut them off from there Gulf Shores Frolik Meetin and u cut down the the classses......and that lanme feller over in Dunlap is leadin the charge against this mess

Booger just sayin

[FootballFan51]

11 hours ago, bigchief said:

There really should be 2 divisions with a cutoff around 375.

A certain school, however, knew they could not compete with the top schools and rigged it for 3 divisions. Problem is, they  still can't compete in AA

Knox Webb? 

[FootballFan51]

Having one Class for D2 makes no sense. Would be too many Maryville vs Harriman type games, which would be no good for all involved. 

I could see it being 2 Classes, but in a perfect world it would be based on Athletic department budgets (scholarships, coaches pay, etc.). Some smaller schools have a $10 million athletics facility & some play football on a pasture with no bleachers behind a church... 

i think that is why they had to do 3 classes... it isn’t perfect, but there are Ginormous discrepancies between the older more established schools & the ones that are new & smaller. 

Edited October 27, 2018 by FootballFan51

[kbrks]

18 hours ago, bigchief said:

agree completely. Eliminate  the  participation trophy

3 divisions with minimal number of teams in each, looks like only 1 game in all 3 divisions pits a 1st round game where both teams have winning records along with multiple byes in IIA and IIAAA and these are called playing for "state championships"...SMH

[orngnblk]

On 10/26/2018 at 11:10 AM, Booger said:

now that the states only viable private institution Catholic Norths extended run in the PUB system is comin to a quick end...dont be comin in here tryin to alter this mess just cause that big boy playin field looks bad next year....it aint so bad......since that childress feller and his buncha cerebral wizzard cronies kick us away from them whinin PUBS.......we Irish have adapted and doin ok with it......suk it up butter cup...its game time

Booger just sayin  

I agree with booger!

[Booger]

12 hours ago, FootballFan51 said:

Having one Class for D2 makes no sense. Would be too many Maryville vs Harriman type games, which would be no good for all involved. 

I could see it being 2 Classes, but in a perfect world it would be based on Athletic department budgets (scholarships, coaches pay, etc.). Some smaller schools have a $10 million athletics facility & some play football on a pasture with no bleachers behind a church... 

i think that is why they had to do 3 classes... it isn’t perfect, but there are Ginormous discrepancies between the older more established schools & the ones that are new & smaller. 

that co-opin Luzziane has the 4th largest operatin budget in the state and recruitin with the best of em..... have been competin on the gridiron for only 6 years and fixin to win a 3rd Gold Ball in a row...and thats not to mention the Gold Balls they r now takin home in other sports.....those in charge of that show got it goin on....cant handle the heat, then get outta the oven

....if u gonna function in D2, thats how u should role

Booger just sayin 

 

[chainsaw2]

Yes Boog but how will the grand experiment work long term? Will the kids and especially the parents of those kids continue to support and attend the school if the kids are replaced by recruits in high school? You pay for little junior for 8-9 years and he is ready to hit the field, court, whatever but never sees any PT due to the new 6-10 forward or 4.3 RB-I think it will work for some but not all

[RaisedEmRightNStillPraying]

17 minutes ago, chainsaw2 said:

Yes Boog but how will the grand experiment work long term? Will the kids and especially the parents of those kids continue to support and attend the school if the kids are replaced by recruits in high school? You pay for little junior for 8-9 years and he is ready to hit the field, court, whatever but never sees any PT due to the new 6-10 forward or 4.3 RB-I think it will work for some but not all

I'd say you just hit on a huge issue that will keep some privates from getting to the elite competitive level. It will definitely test the character of many a parent and student in the years to come, especially at some of our newer, smaller private schools forced to compete with larger, more established institutions.

The real questions might be: Why does your institution exist? Why are parents looking at your school as a place to send their children? What are the overarching goals of the athletic programs? Do those goals ultimately assist the institution to achieve that mission statement?

The next 3-5 years will be interesting to see where schools decide to focus their efforts.