TN Coach's Poll for 17 December

[ArtusCimber]

TENNESSEE HIGH SCHOOL WRESTLING POLL

                                                                                                                                   

From: Jeff Price                                                               Results from: 12/17/18

 

THIS IS THE THIRD POLL OF THE SEASON. 

 

Now in its 27th year, The Poll is primarily a measure of dual meet strength with some consideration to individual tournament strength.   Votes are cast by a state-wide panel of high school wrestling coaches and are based on a maximum Power Ranking of 168.

 

STATE POLL:

 

RANK	SCHOOL	POWER RANKING	LAST WEEK
1	BAYLOR	164	1
2	CLEVELAND	149	2
3	CHRISTIAN BROTHERS	148	3
4	FATHER RYAN	127	4
5	McCALLIE	112	5
6	ARLINGTON	89	6
7	WILSON CENTRAL	87	7
8	BRADLEY CENTRAL	70	9
9	BLACKMAN	53	8
10	SCIENCE HILL	35	11
11	SUMMIT	20	nr
12	ROSSVIEW	16	12

 

Others receiving votes:  BEECH, BRENTWOOD, CENTENNIAL, HIXSON, MARYVILLE

 

 

[dontstopbelieving]

Maryville??  Do these guys really not look at results on track? They have already lost dual meets to Pigeon Forge, Gibbs,  and Morristown West. I would be really interested to know who votes for them.  

[ObserverW]

20 minutes ago, dontstopbelieving said:

Maryville??  Do these guys really not look at results on track? They have already lost dual meets to Pigeon Forge, Gibbs,  and Morristown West. I would be really interested to know who votes for them.  

Beech, Brentwood, Rossview, and Centennial all finished ahead of Summit at Beech Invitational and all 4 are ranked behind Summit. 

The Bros dominated Bradley County Invitational over Baylor (who beat Cleveland) yet they're 3rd behind both. Yes, I know AC will say its "primary based on dual meet strength" yet Science Hill is ranked ahead of Maryville who beat them in a dual. 

[dontstopbelieving]

I'm sure Science Hill was missing some guys in order to lose to Maryville. And to vouch for Baylor,  as much as it pains me to do so,  they were without Pace, among a few others who would have placed highly and made the team score closer.  Nonetheless the Bros and Baylor will be a very fun dual meet to watch. 

[WrestlingGod]

38 minutes ago, ObserverW said:

Beech, Brentwood, Rossview, and Centennial all finished ahead of Summit at Beech Invitational and all 4 are ranked behind Summit. 

I think that’s why it’s primarily dual strength and not individual. Summit had a full lineup against Brentwood then didn’t enter 3 weights at Beech. 

[PurpleWrestler]

30 minutes ago, WrestlingGod said:

I think that’s why it’s primarily dual strength and not individual. Summit had a full lineup against Brentwood then didn’t enter 3 weights at Beech. 

WAIT, so it's what someone thinks their line up might be, and not what it is? Look, if a college team is missing people and lose, they drop in the rankings. Why is this any different? This kills me, if and when they get their "full" team back, and win, that's when they should move back up. What if they NEVER get their "full" team back?

Its the same issue as individual rankings. Ranking kids where you THINK they might end up, but they haven't ever wrestled there. I get the preseason rankings doing that, but once the season starts is should be only about what you are doing at that moment in time.

[ObserverW]

3 minutes ago, PurpleWrestler said:

WAIT, so it's what someone thinks their line up might be, and not what it is? Look, if a college team is missing people and lose, they drop in the rankings. Why is this any different? This kills me, if and when they get their "full" team back, and win, that's when they should move back up. What if they NEVER get their "full" team back?

Its the same issue as individual rankings. Ranking kids where you THINK they might end up, but they haven't ever wrestled there. I get the preseason rankings doing that, but once the season starts is should be only about what you are doing at that moment in time.

Three thumbs up Purple! 

If it's a legacy team that loses then the argument is always that someone was missing or someone is not at weight or my favorite, one of their good wrestlers got caught. Haha!

[ObserverW]

1 hour ago, dontstopbelieving said:

I'm sure Science Hill was missing some guys in order to lose to Maryville. And to vouch for Baylor,  as much as it pains me to do so,  they were without Pace, among a few others who would have placed highly and made the team score closer.  Nonetheless the Bros and Baylor will be a very fun dual meet to watch. 

This argument effectively discount one team's success. The Bros beat who was put in front of them. Rankings should reflect such. If Pace and whoever else is missing at States and CB wins will the final rankings list Baylor ahead because if, if, if........

[cobrakid8]

7 minutes ago, ObserverW said:

Three thumbs up Purple! 

If it's a legacy team that loses then the argument is always that someone was missing or someone is not at weight or my favorite, one of their good wrestlers got caught. Haha!

Well OW, your favorite sons at Arlington got beat by Blackman at Black Horse, so are you going to whine about Arlington ranked to high? 

 

I am not sure that hurt butt of yours is going to ever get better if you continue to be butt hurt all the time! I mean you complained about Soddy last year although they beat your team in a dual. After that in state duals you guys scored 24 against Cleveland and 18 of those were forfeits by Cleveland and include a double forfeit that the per you overranked Jones was wrestling in which would have been more points for Cleveland. I would hate to be as  bitter as you, but I guess that happens when your team has never been relevant. While those that supposedly get legacy voted in have won all but 4 times in past 25 years. I would suggest Boudreaux buttpaste, it seemed to work when my youngest was a baby also!

[greendoor]

If your team wins the State Tournament and you're still worried about who is number #1 in some stupid poll then you my friend have some insecurity issues

[BQ125]

Baylor was missing 4 kids (Pace @145 #1 seed and Duffy @ 182 #1, Bond @ 106 #2 seed and Chambers-not sure what he was seeded prior to pulling out).  I don't believe Baylor should drop with those kids out sick for one week.  With those 4 kids they would have easily scored 70 to 90 points at the tournament.  I do agree that Christian Brothers has a strong team and it will all need to be proven at the state duals and individual state.  Just not sure I would drop Baylor with that fire power sitting out 1 week.

Edited December 18, 2018 by BQ125

[fooseball95]

I don’t care who is ranked where in December, but one thing for sure is Baylor will win D2 and it won’t be close. Cleveland will win AAA and it won’t be close. Everyone is wrestling for 2nd.

Edited December 18, 2018 by fooseball95