TN Coach's Poll for 17 December

[WrestlingGod]

14 hours ago, Wrestlinggeek said:

Cleveland is strong this year, while the rest of AAA is down, so I do not see someone beating them. . 

I cant say I agree with the entirety of this statement. Cleveland being strong this year is terrifying because even in their "rebuilding" years they're still a threat for a state title. But I cant say the rest of AAA is down this year. Blackman has the best team they've had in a while. Arlington is up. Wilson Central is still strong. Rossview is strong too. Heck, region 7 is tough this year with Centennial, Summit, Brentwood, Page and Indy all in the same District! That's tough for just about any other team in the state to make it through.

 

However, that said, Cleveland is ahead of the rest of AAA by a good amount. And I agree, I don't see anybody beating them either. But the rest of the state isn't down. They're just that far ahead.

[cbg]

In D1AAA Cleveland is the class of the field and no one is close!  However, one must ask themselves why Cleveland is so far ahead of the filed?  I would say that its due to the HCWC that feeds Cleveland High School.  You show me a great team that consistently competes for a state championship and typically that is due to a great youth & middle school program.  

[BobCorker]

14 hours ago, Opry said:

Baylor will get spanked this weekend in Kansas City and we will see how tough they really are...don’t think they have ever had a champ there

Ryan Parker won the tournament.  He made the finals 2x.  Whimper and Reiniche made the finals.  Reiniche has a couple guys ranked ahead of him in his bracket this weekend.  Baylor made the top 10 last year.  What do you consider getting spanked?  It's a national tournament with 50 teams that was ranked as the 5th hardest in-season tournament in the country by Intermat. 

DII will be extremely close down the stretch.  I have heard McCallie folks say that when they are full strength they are the team to beat. It will come down to who is healthy. 

[Wishedihadwrestled]

HA-HA! No McCallie person has said they are the team to beat. Get real! its Baylor's tournament to lose which will not happen! They have the dream team and will dominate. They are WAY too strong!

[DaBears1976]

1 hour ago, cbg said:

In D1AAA Cleveland is the class of the field and no one is close!  However, one must ask themselves why Cleveland is so far ahead of the filed?  I would say that its due to the HCWC that feeds Cleveland High School.  You show me a great team that consistently competes for a state championship and typically that is due to a great youth & middle school program.  

2 things.  Higher Calling and a man named Allen Jones. He is Clevelands biggest recruiter.  Bradley's wrestling "legacy" is over until we can find someone close to his power. 

[cbg]

27 minutes ago, DaBears1976 said:

2 things.  Higher Calling and a man named Allen Jones. He is Clevelands biggest recruiter.  Bradley's wrestling "legacy" is over until we can find someone close to his power. 

Allen Jones a Recruiter?  Is recruiting not  illegal and a TSSAA violation? I have never heard of a TSSAA D1AAA public school recruiting have you? I was always told that only those old nasty D2 private schools recruited.

Edited December 19, 2018 by cbg

[DaBears1976]

5 minutes ago, cbg said:

Allen Jones a Recruiter?  Is recruiting not  illegal and a TSSAA violation? I have never heard of a TSSAA D1AAA public school recruiting have you? I was always told that only those old nasty D2 private schools recruited.

Ok I'll rephrase it to what ppl wanna know or you.  His money and what he does for Cleveland and Higher Calling brings in the great wrestlers. There, i fixed it for ya. 

[ObserverW]

40 minutes ago, DaBears1976 said:

2 things.  Higher Calling and a man named Allen Jones. He is Clevelands biggest recruiter.  Bradley's wrestling "legacy" is over until we can find someone close to his power. 

Wow!  After all those messages you post defending Cleveland, you are going to throw out this barb as an excuse as why Bradley is no longer the favorite?  For once, I am almost speechless.  

[DaBears1976]

2 minutes ago, ObserverW said:

Wow!  After all those messages you post defending Cleveland, you are going to throw out this barb as an excuse as why Bradley is no longer the favorite?  For once, I am almost speechless.  

Not throwing nothing out. Every fan around here knows what's happening. Bradley will always be great or good. Pridr will always have great kids. We just cannot keep up with Jones and Higher Calling.  As you can tellalready,  no AAA school will. Bradley won't take many steps back. Next year they could very well compete for state. 

[cobrakid8]

5 hours ago, DaBears1976 said:

Not throwing nothing out. Every fan around here knows what's happening. Bradley will always be great or good. Pridr will always have great kids. We just cannot keep up with Jones and Higher Calling.  As you can tellalready,  no AAA school will. Bradley won't take many steps back. Next year they could very well compete for state. 

Yep, the money he pours into that program including HCWC they will most likely continue to rule the state. Just imagine if they were able to keep all the kids that even travel to higher calling just to wrestle for them. I mean you have Emory Taylor state champ for McCallie, Cade Holloway-state champ for Notre Dame, Cody Chittum that is waiting to go to Blairs Academy. There are plenty of others, so you can imagine being in that room and how much better you are getting when dealing with those hammers!

[Opry]

9 hours ago, BobCorker said:

Ryan Parker won the tournament.  He made the finals 2x.  Whimper and Reiniche made the finals.  Reiniche has a couple guys ranked ahead of him in his bracket this weekend.  Baylor made the top 10 last year.  What do you consider getting spanked?  It's a national tournament with 50 teams that was ranked as the 5th hardest in-season tournament in the country by Intermat. 

DII will be extremely close down the stretch.  I have heard McCallie folks say that when they are full strength they are the team to beat. It will come down to who is healthy. 

I hate to argue with publicly available facts, but Baylor placed 14th last year and the best they have ever done was in 2015 when they did finish 9th. Also only 40 teams.

https://www.kcstampede.com/past-results/

You are correct about Parker, he was quite good.

Year	Baylor	CBHS
2009		8
2010
2011		6
2012		14
2013		32
2014	18
2015	9	12
2016	28	21
2017	14	16
Avg Place	17.3	15.6

Either way, they still get spanked this weekend.

Edited December 20, 2018 by Opry

[BobCorker]

46 minutes ago, Opry said:

I hate to argue with publicly available facts, but Baylor placed 14th last year and the best they have ever done was in 2015 when they did finish 9th. Also only 40 teams.

https://www.kcstampede.com/past-results/

You are correct about Parker, he was quite good.

Year	Baylor	CBHS
2009		8
2010
2011		6
2012		14
2013		32
2014	18
2015	9	12
2016	28	21
2017	14	16
Avg Place	17.3	15.6

Either way, they still get spanked this weekend.

You should try harder at arguing publicly stated facts. Stampede press release after the tournament stated that TrackWrestling would have the updated/correct team scores for last year.  I've copied them for you. CBHS should have a great tournament out there this weekend.   Not sure why you want Baylor to fail so badly. 

Tuttle	681.0
2	Park Hill	540.5
3	Goddard High School	430.0
4	Whitfield	415.0
5	Staley	395.5
6	Neosho	357.0
7	Perry	307.5
8	Buford	306.0
9	Baylor School	288.5
10	Seckman	287.5
11	Olathe North	280.5
12	Edmond North	268.5
13	Kearney	268.0
14	CBC	257.0
15	Platte County	253.5
16	Mill Valley	248.5
17	Christian Brothers	241.5
18	Coweta	239.5
19	Blue Springs	235.0
20	Collinsville	227.0
20	Derby	227.0