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ArtusCimber

TN Coach's Poll for 17 December

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14 hours ago, Wrestlinggeek said:

Cleveland is strong this year, while the rest of AAA is down, so I do not see someone beating them. . 

I cant say I agree with the entirety of this statement. Cleveland being strong this year is terrifying because even in their "rebuilding" years they're still a threat for a state title. But I cant say the rest of AAA is down this year. Blackman has the best team they've had in a while. Arlington is up. Wilson Central is still strong. Rossview is strong too. Heck, region 7 is tough this year with Centennial, Summit, Brentwood, Page and Indy all in the same District! That's tough for just about any other team in the state to make it through.

 

However, that said, Cleveland is ahead of the rest of AAA by a good amount. And I agree, I don't see anybody beating them either. But the rest of the state isn't down. They're just that far ahead.

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In D1AAA Cleveland is the class of the field and no one is close!  However, one must ask themselves why Cleveland is so far ahead of the filed?  I would say that its due to the HCWC that feeds Cleveland High School.  You show me a great team that consistently competes for a state championship and typically that is due to a great youth & middle school program.  

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14 hours ago, Opry said:

Baylor will get spanked this weekend in Kansas City and we will see how tough they really are...don’t think they have ever had a champ there

Ryan Parker won the tournament.  He made the finals 2x.  Whimper and Reiniche made the finals.  Reiniche has a couple guys ranked ahead of him in his bracket this weekend.  Baylor made the top 10 last year.  What do you consider getting spanked?  It's a national tournament with 50 teams that was ranked as the 5th hardest in-season tournament in the country by Intermat. 

DII will be extremely close down the stretch.  I have heard McCallie folks say that when they are full strength they are the team to beat. It will come down to who is healthy. 

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1 hour ago, cbg said:

In D1AAA Cleveland is the class of the field and no one is close!  However, one must ask themselves why Cleveland is so far ahead of the filed?  I would say that its due to the HCWC that feeds Cleveland High School.  You show me a great team that consistently competes for a state championship and typically that is due to a great youth & middle school program.  

2 things.  Higher Calling and a man named Allen Jones. He is Clevelands biggest recruiter.  Bradley's wrestling "legacy" is over until we can find someone close to his power. 

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27 minutes ago, DaBears1976 said:

2 things.  Higher Calling and a man named Allen Jones. He is Clevelands biggest recruiter.  Bradley's wrestling "legacy" is over until we can find someone close to his power. 

Allen Jones a Recruiter?  Is recruiting not  illegal and a TSSAA violation? I have never heard of a TSSAA D1AAA public school recruiting have you? I was always told that only those old nasty D2 private schools recruited.

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5 minutes ago, cbg said:

Allen Jones a Recruiter?  Is recruiting not  illegal and a TSSAA violation? I have never heard of a TSSAA D1AAA public school recruiting have you? I was always told that only those old nasty D2 private schools recruited.

Ok I'll rephrase it to what ppl wanna know or you.  His money and what he does for Cleveland and Higher Calling brings in the great wrestlers. There, i fixed it for ya. 

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40 minutes ago, DaBears1976 said:

2 things.  Higher Calling and a man named Allen Jones. He is Clevelands biggest recruiter.  Bradley's wrestling "legacy" is over until we can find someone close to his power. 

Wow!  After all those messages you post defending Cleveland, you are going to throw out this barb as an excuse as why Bradley is no longer the favorite?  For once, I am almost speechless.  

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2 minutes ago, ObserverW said:

Wow!  After all those messages you post defending Cleveland, you are going to throw out this barb as an excuse as why Bradley is no longer the favorite?  For once, I am almost speechless.  

Not throwing nothing out. Every fan around here knows what's happening. Bradley will always be great or good. Pridr will always have great kids. We just cannot keep up with Jones and Higher Calling.  As you can tellalready,  no AAA school will. Bradley won't take many steps back. Next year they could very well compete for state. 

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5 hours ago, DaBears1976 said:

Not throwing nothing out. Every fan around here knows what's happening. Bradley will always be great or good. Pridr will always have great kids. We just cannot keep up with Jones and Higher Calling.  As you can tellalready,  no AAA school will. Bradley won't take many steps back. Next year they could very well compete for state. 

Yep, the money he pours into that program including HCWC they will most likely continue to rule the state. Just imagine if they were able to keep all the kids that even travel to higher calling just to wrestle for them. I mean you have Emory Taylor state champ for McCallie, Cade Holloway-state champ for Notre Dame, Cody Chittum that is waiting to go to Blairs Academy. There are plenty of others, so you can imagine being in that room and how much better you are getting when dealing with those hammers!

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9 hours ago, BobCorker said:

Ryan Parker won the tournament.  He made the finals 2x.  Whimper and Reiniche made the finals.  Reiniche has a couple guys ranked ahead of him in his bracket this weekend.  Baylor made the top 10 last year.  What do you consider getting spanked?  It's a national tournament with 50 teams that was ranked as the 5th hardest in-season tournament in the country by Intermat. 

DII will be extremely close down the stretch.  I have heard McCallie folks say that when they are full strength they are the team to beat. It will come down to who is healthy. 

I hate to argue with publicly available facts, but Baylor placed 14th last year and the best they have ever done was in 2015 when they did finish 9th. Also only 40 teams.

https://www.kcstampede.com/past-results/

You are correct about Parker, he was quite good.

Year Baylor CBHS
2009   8
2010    
2011   6
2012   14
2013   32
2014 18  
2015 9 12
2016 28 21
2017 14 16
Avg Place 17.3 15.6

Either way, they still get spanked this weekend.

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46 minutes ago, Opry said:

I hate to argue with publicly available facts, but Baylor placed 14th last year and the best they have ever done was in 2015 when they did finish 9th. Also only 40 teams.

https://www.kcstampede.com/past-results/

You are correct about Parker, he was quite good.

Year Baylor CBHS
2009   8
2010    
2011   6
2012   14
2013   32
2014 18  
2015 9 12
2016 28 21
2017 14 16
Avg Place 17.3 15.6

Either way, they still get spanked this weekend.

You should try harder at arguing publicly stated facts. Stampede press release after the tournament stated that TrackWrestling would have the updated/correct team scores for last year.  I've copied them for you. CBHS should have a great tournament out there this weekend.   Not sure why you want Baylor to fail so badly. 

Tuttle  681.0
2 Park Hill  540.5
3 Goddard High School  430.0
4 Whitfield  415.0
5 Staley  395.5
6 Neosho  357.0
7 Perry  307.5
8 Buford  306.0
9 Baylor School  288.5
10 Seckman  287.5
11 Olathe North  280.5
12 Edmond North  268.5
13 Kearney  268.0
14 CBC  257.0
15 Platte County  253.5
16 Mill Valley  248.5
17 Christian Brothers  241.5
18 Coweta  239.5
19 Blue Springs  235.0
20 Collinsville  227.0
20 Derby  227.0

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