Jump to content

Transfer Thread - Should I Stay or Should I Go?


Recommended Posts

43 minutes ago, TryNotToSuck said:

To me, it depends on the player. If a player wants to win, then the kid has to be placed at a school that gives him/her the best chance to win. 

If a kid wants to be a “star athlete in high school” then he/she will need to go to a 1A/2A school that will give you way more opportunities to play and you’re able to produce. In addition to that, the chances of him staying in a football game will be longer because a 1A/2A football usually only has 30-40 players on it. The only downside, you’re having amazing stats against terrible teams. 

I will say this, if a coach is willing to sacrifice winning to improve the character of a player, I will get that kid the heck out. If I was a parent, it’s my job to raise my child, not the coach. I see a lot of coaches that gives two flips about winning, but wants to be a dad and improve their character and Yadi Yadi ya. High School athletes wants to win, they don’t want to be better individuals, they want to win and enjoy being high school athletes. No high school kid is going to say “man, we only went 2-8 in football but I sure did improve a whole lot as a person.” 

I respect your opinion but politely disagree. I am a “coach”and I feel part of having good character is how you act and your grades/academic effort. If have seen kids think they can act however they want and they think there should be no consequences. Life doesn’t work that way and we do a tremendous injustice to students when we don’t teach them this early. If I have a kid that can’t stay out of trouble and do everything they can to make the best grades they can (which is different from kid to kid) then they don’t play... point blank. They are a representative of our school and community. 

  • Upvote 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

37 minutes ago, BIGPURPLEMACHINE said:

I respect your opinion but politely disagree. I am a “coach”and I feel part of having good character is how you act and your grades/academic effort. If have seen kids think they can act however they want and they think there should be no consequences. Life doesn’t work that way and we do a tremendous injustice to students when we don’t teach them this early. If I have a kid that can’t stay out of trouble and do everything they can to make the best grades they can (which is different from kid to kid) then they don’t play... point blank. They are a representative of our school and community. 

Peabody Pride seconds this post !!! Well said !! A coach can do both just ask every Golden Tide player !!!

  • Upvote 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 hours ago, PeabodyPride said:

Peabody Pride seconds this post !!! Well said !! A coach can do both just ask every Golden Tide player !!!

My thoughts exactly... why choose between a good man and a good coach when being the former helps at being the latter. One of the wisest men that I ever had the pleasure of knowing was also one of the most acclaimed coaches in Tennessee ( second only to Coach Tucker in wins when he retired), and his favorite catch phrase was " it's not my job to teach football, it's my job to mold men of character... men of character win you football games". I'd much rather have a man of character running my kid's team than some jerk out to build his resume' by winning at any cost.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 hours ago, Salem said:

Playing at the next level is only one factor for justifying a transfer. A positive memory of high school football shouldn't be limited to those good enough to be picked for college. Some schools are academically inferior and some schools have sports programs are horrendous. 

There's another lesson to be learned from this. In your own post you described a positive experience with your son and his team, even though they weren't that great. Now, you say that you'd recommend grandson transferring to a better team... what changed? Will your grandson have a better experience, or will he subconsciously develop the attitude of cutting and running to a "better" situation when the going gets tough? High school sports today, and adulthood tomorrow... marriage, employment, and life in general can be a series of tough times and great ones in the aftermath... if you work through the tough ones.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 hours ago, BIGPURPLEMACHINE said:

I respect your opinion but politely disagree. I am a “coach”and I feel part of having good character is how you act and your grades/academic effort. If have seen kids think they can act however they want and they think there should be no consequences. Life doesn’t work that way and we do a tremendous injustice to students when we don’t teach them this early. If I have a kid that can’t stay out of trouble and do everything they can to make the best grades they can (which is different from kid to kid) then they don’t play... point blank. They are a representative of our school and community. 

+1^^^

Link to comment
Share on other sites

11 hours ago, tradertwo said:

There's another lesson to be learned from this. In your own post you described a positive experience with your son and his team, even though they weren't that great. Now, you say that you'd recommend grandson transferring to a better team... what changed? Will your grandson have a better experience, or will he subconsciously develop the attitude of cutting and running to a "better" situation when the going gets tough? High school sports today, and adulthood tomorrow... marriage, employment, and life in general can be a series of tough times and great ones in the aftermath... if you work through the tough ones.

What changed? Life and experience. Is a coach who has success with a small classification, rural high school and then leaving  for a much better 5A or 6A gig cutting and running? Over the years I've seen good kids with tons of ability stay in poor situations and have their talent completely wasted. I've seen talented kids with great attitudes stay loyal to their program and have a completely miserable high school experience due to poor leadership from coaches and or administration. I've seen coaches have a team meeting and look his guys in the eye and talk about commitment, loyalty, and team while he had interviewed at every open position in the area and was negotiating his new contract elsewhere.  The future is hard to predict but I've seen several players leave and while a few situations didn't pan out the majority did. Each situation is unique and the decision should be based on a lot of factors. 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

18 hours ago, TryNotToSuck said:

To me, it depends on the player. If a player wants to win, then the kid has to be placed at a school that gives him/her the best chance to win. 

If a kid wants to be a “star athlete in high school” then he/she will need to go to a 1A/2A school that will give you way more opportunities to play and you’re able to produce. In addition to that, the chances of him staying in a football game will be longer because a 1A/2A football usually only has 30-40 players on it. The only downside, you’re having amazing stats against terrible teams. 

I will say this, if a coach is willing to sacrifice winning to improve the character of a player, I will get that kid the heck out. If I was a parent, it’s my job to raise my child, not the coach. I see a lot of coaches that gives two flips about winning, but wants to be a dad and improve their character and Yadi Yadi ya. High School athletes wants to win, they don’t want to be better individuals, they want to win and enjoy being high school athletes. No high school kid is going to say “man, we only went 2-8 in football but I sure did improve a whole lot as a person.” 

This is a terrible take.   Yeh you want to win and that is everybody's goal but you want to win with respectful kids as well.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

My older son did not have a good experience with the high school team he played for. Mainly due to coaching/program culture  issues that I became aware of after the fact.

My younger son went to a different school. Loves it. He goes to school happy, he comes home from practice happy. My two son's experiences are night and day different.

While I am proud of my older son for sticking out a tough situation, in hindsight, I should have transferred him. If I had been aware of the culture situation before he graduated, I would have transferred him even if I had to rent an apartment in another school zone.

As a dad, you have to do whats best for your kids, football is a small part. You have ask yourself "What's the best decision I can make for the overall character development, future, educational experience and happiness of my child?"

 

  • Like 3
  • Upvote 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, 32hammer said:

My older son did not have a good experience with the high school team he played for. Mainly due to coaching/program culture  issues that I became aware of after the fact.

My younger son went to a different school. Loves it. He goes to school happy, he comes home from practice happy. My two son's experiences are night and day different.

While I am proud of my older son for sticking out a tough situation, in hindsight, I should have transferred him. If I had been aware of the culture situation before he graduated, I would have transferred him even if I had to rent an apartment in another school zone.

As a dad, you have to do whats best for your kids, football is a small part. You have ask yourself "What's the best decision I can make for the overall character development, future, educational experience and happiness of my child?"

 

Exactly. Parents may be loyal to a certain school but it’s the child’s life and the best decision for him or her is what needs to be made. 

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 minutes ago, sum1uno said:

Exactly. Parents may be loyal to a certain school but it’s the child’s life and the best decision for him or her is what needs to be made. 

Yes sir. I'll tell a story sometime of some "grown ups" reaction to a kid transferring. You'll get a kick out of it then understand why parents take their kids somewhere else.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

 Share

Announcements


  • Recent Posts

    • The winds of change are blowing in Hartsville.     Will be an interesting follow.    Would go back to the 90s and turn black the clock!
    • Did he promise you a coordinator job or something if he ever got a head coaching job? He resigned? He was at the top of the dugout last night calling plays. I wonder if those 30+ parents would let him give their kids a ride. by the way the board meeting was last night and it was not mentioned. must have been at the work session earlier this week which is not public. must be trying to keep it quiet.  Since you know so much, how much is Robbie Atwood willing to pay Adam Cothron?  Didn't you slander Eden earlier on here? You also didn't know he was a faculty coach again so how much do you really know? Some people outside this county baffle me with their need to slander others.    
    • He resigned smh, and have you ever heard of charged but not convicted. Some people in this county baffle me with their need to slander others. Have you asked any of the 30+ parents that signed a petition to get him reinstated at the board meeting this week how they feel about this? Just let it play out, at the end of the day the only people that will bring TC back are the ones that know what its about at its core.    People hate losing and they aren't used to it at TC. I for 1, and I'm sure others too, understand having a dip in talent and not being able to compete for a state title every year. But in the past, TC teams have outworked more talented teams, they didn't continuously lose the turnover battle, they didn't commit 8+ penalties in several games each season, and I believe several of the folks in town that want Blake out feel as if he is neglecting the history of the program. This is from a source that used to be extremely close to the program (not me lol), Blake gets out of school midday and the players show up and there is no practice plan or itinerary.  I also understand those that are on team Blake, when he has loads of talent, he wins. He does know football and he is a tremendous DC, and if the rumors are true then he will do great things. As for the board member issue, it is what it is, everyone that's true to the county know that and nothing has changed. I agree though that they should strive to make the facilities as good as we can. And as far as potential candidates, I agree there is very few options. West, Vetetoe (yes I know), and couple others that could have some interest. Whatever happens is massive for the program during a pivotal time before the next big wave of stars make their way through. 
    • McKenzie had no trouble with Huntingdon.  
    • Has BA landed any cornfed cowboys to block up front?
×
  • Create New...