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1 hour ago, BIGPURPLEMACHINE said:

I despise listening to people complain about playing private schools. I’ve always been under the impression that good competition makes you better. Also if you choose to whine about who you play instead of putting on ya big girl panties and punching in the mouth it says something about your character in my book. 

But I have to disagree with you guys about open zone schools. They won’t ever be pulled out into their own division. Simply cause their wouldn’t be anyone left hardly. The vast majority of school systems in TN are open zoned because of their board policies. More likely that the non open zoned schools would be pulled out into their own division. 

I agree About competition. But what’s the difference if it is non open zoned schools pulled out to own division. That would still leave open enrolled in their own division then. 

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15 minutes ago, BigEdMo said:

I agree About competition. But what’s the difference if it is non open zoned schools pulled out to own division. That would still leave open enrolled in their own division then. 

The point is it will never happen.  over 90% of Public Schools in the State of Tennessee are open Zoned in the eyes of the TSSAA.  Any school system that has a transfer police (rather it be for a Childs safety, disciplinary reasons, offer different classes that your zoned school doesn't have, etc.) all count as open zoned.  The travel alone and having a handful of teams that are truly not open zoned for its own division wouldn't work and just be giving another participation trophy.

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Lived in TN for 30 years but moved to FL last year. Be happy you have the structure you do in baseball. Public/private schools are all together. No questions asked. Public schools recruit. If little Johnny starts practice Monday at one school but another school doesn't start until Wednesday then all he has to do is say he's moving schools for their business department or basically any reason then he can play immediately and that's for public schools. Also the only game you can lose is district championship or you're out. 8 teams make up a region and only 1 team makes it to state which is just a final four. Quit complaining. Enjoy the experience. Eat your peanuts and let the kids play. They are 10 times better than you are and better than 99% of you ever were. Keyboard warriors.

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1 hour ago, BigEdMo said:

I agree About competition. But what’s the difference if it is non open zoned schools pulled out to own division. That would still leave open enrolled in their own division then. 

Your right there is essentially no difference. I was just responding to you guys saying that the open zones will be the next to go. 

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No complaints from me. I wish It was all together. I grew Up in this state when it was just 3 divisions. I went To public and loved playing the privates and sticking it to them. Now my kids are in the privates and I have Enjoyed the multiplier and playing up. No gold balls to show for it but it has shown all my boys nothing is just given to you.  Oh and I am In that 1% then. Hahahahha. So serious!!!!

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46 minutes ago, Nicholas23 said:

Lived in TN for 30 years but moved to FL last year. Be happy you have the structure you do in baseball. Public/private schools are all together. No questions asked. Public schools recruit. If little Johnny starts practice Monday at one school but another school doesn't start until Wednesday then all he has to do is say he's moving schools for their business department or basically any reason then he can play immediately and that's for public schools. Also the only game you can lose is district championship or you're out. 8 teams make up a region and only 1 team makes it to state which is just a final four. Quit complaining. Enjoy the experience. Eat your peanuts and let the kids play. They are 10 times better than you are and better than 99% of you ever were. Keyboard warriors.

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11 hours ago, ReitzFan said:

Another off-topic comment that should be on the public-private board. If folks like yourself would have a clue, you would realize that the majority balance of a TCA Squad has been at that school since kindergarten or the very early grade school grades at the least. Absolutely none of the young men on this baseball roster were recruited to play for TCA. TCA competes in D1 according to the rules set forth by the TSSAA and its member institutions. Don't worry, once the Spring Fling is over on Saturday we will become a member of division 2. Then it will be legal for us to do what some of you folks have been accusing us of doing for years without proof.

I have a clue. I have two sons, both of which were offered "opportunities" to transfer to a couple of different private schools in the mid state area before they went D2.  I chose to keep them with their friends that they'd played with their entire life, and very glad I did.  I have never been a person that thinks everyone should get a trophy but I do advocate for a fairer system. 

I don't have a problem with Privates, none at all.  I hope they win at a high level.  I have lots of friends that coach there and friends with parents whose kids attend. I do have a problem with the system, and I always have.  And obviously I'm not the only one.  A private school has a distinct advantage over a single a public school when it comes to kids attending that school  Always has.  Most private schools are in more densely populated areas, therefore affording more kids the opportunity to attend their school by proximity.  The rise of private schools came because the publics in most of those areas were so bad.  They also pull kids from across county lines, which most public schools do not allow because of state funding.  I lived and coached in West TN for 30+ years, and know the plight of TCA, JCS, USJ (Old Hickory Academy, yeah I'm that old). The rise of those schools came from the fact that Madison County schools were so awfully ran, and they grew along with the population explosion around Jackson and neighboring counties. It's never been a fair system to single a schools like Huntingdon, Gordonsville, East Robertson, Greenback, Harriman etc because they are in more rural areas and they just don't have the base to be consistently competitive year over year vs a private school that could have any number of great athletes decide to move to their school at any point.  Trenton Peabody didn't become a powerhouse really until USJ and JCS left for D2.  In the Last 20 years, single a baseball has been dominated by privates, in fact, winning 13 state titles and having 13 runners up.  Only in 2012, 2009, and 2006 did a private not make the final two. I agree that you want to play the best, and we always tried to schedule up to play better programs so that we would be tested for a postseason run.  But a single a school could have their best group come through in years, make the state tournament only to see two privates that can pick and choose who attends their school dominate the tournament.  Single A schools have never gotten a fair shake in the old system and it will be interesting come next year with no Columbia Acad, TCA, Grace, University High, etc. 

Best of luck to all.

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Intense do not try and trick yourself into believing we are not going to destroy the baseball today because we are.

Full circle my little TCA num nuts.

My students have prepared mentally last night on how to destroy this BP they are about to see.

They will physically prepare for this BP at the field during pregame.

ITS CALLED SOFT TOSS. (wax on -wax off)

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7 minutes ago, MrMiyagi said:

Intense do not try and trick yourself into believing we are not going to destroy the baseball today because we are.

Full circle my little TCA num nuts.

My students have prepared mentally last night on how to destroy this BP they are about to see.

They will physically prepare for this BP at the field during pregame.

ITS CALLED SOFT TOSS. (wax on -wax off)

Better watch out talking about our pitching like that. Throwedroll will get ya. 

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1 hour ago, bd4vols said:

I have a clue. I have two sons, both of which were offered "opportunities" to transfer to a couple of different private schools in the mid state area before they went D2.  I chose to keep them with their friends that they'd played with their entire life, and very glad I did.  I have never been a person that thinks everyone should get a trophy but I do advocate for a fairer system. 

I don't have a problem with Privates, none at all.  I hope they win at a high level.  I have lots of friends that coach there and friends with parents whose kids attend. I do have a problem with the system, and I always have.  And obviously I'm not the only one.  A private school has a distinct advantage over a single a public school when it comes to kids attending that school  Always has.  Most private schools are in more densely populated areas, therefore affording more kids the opportunity to attend their school by proximity.  The rise of private schools came because the publics in most of those areas were so bad.  They also pull kids from across county lines, which most public schools do not allow because of state funding.  I lived and coached in West TN for 30+ years, and know the plight of TCA, JCS, USJ (Old Hickory Academy, yeah I'm that old). The rise of those schools came from the fact that Madison County schools were so awfully ran, and they grew along with the population explosion around Jackson and neighboring counties. It's never been a fair system to single a schools like Huntingdon, Gordonsville, East Robertson, Greenback, Harriman etc because they are in more rural areas and they just don't have the base to be consistently competitive year over year vs a private school that could have any number of great athletes decide to move to their school at any point.  Trenton Peabody didn't become a powerhouse really until USJ and JCS left for D2.  In the Last 20 years, single a baseball has been dominated by privates, in fact, winning 13 state titles and having 13 runners up.  Only in 2012, 2009, and 2006 did a private not make the final two. I agree that you want to play the best, and we always tried to schedule up to play better programs so that we would be tested for a postseason run.  But a single a school could have their best group come through in years, make the state tournament only to see two privates that can pick and choose who attends their school dominate the tournament.  Single A schools have never gotten a fair shake in the old system and it will be interesting come next year with no Columbia Acad, TCA, Grace, University High, etc. 

Best of luck to all.

TCA gives no financial aid. Not even work studies. So when a family has to pay 20k+ a year for a kid to go to school there, what advantage do they have??  TCA only had 16 kids for spring practice in football. Obviously they are pulling kids from all over. SMH. I agree SOME privates may have some of the above advantages you mention but you can’t lump them all together. 

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