Top 100 OL Morris among 5 Memphis pro​​​​​​spects transferring to Ravenwood

[Swipes]

3 hours ago, WarEagleCartman said:

So if you can only move and play ball if it's financially necessary that your family moves? Wealthy families should be punished for having options? 

I don't know how you got that from BT Mafia's post.  The question is why move half way across the state when there are good schools academically, have good football teams, and the cost of living be a lot less than the Ravenwood area?  The article plainly states there is a link between Melvin Cole (The Guardian of the 5 players) and Reggie Grimes the new DC at Ravenwood when he said “We have a good relationship with Grimes and his father, so it worked out pretty well.” 

[LoveForTheGame]

When Hester was getting kids from Metro Nashville and Rutherford County to enroll at Nolensville while pretending they were legitimate WilCo students, everyone ignored it. Now a few players openly and transparently decide to go to Ravenwood and everyone has a problem. 

It wasn't even that long ago (2011-12) when Ravenwood-zoned athletes were abusing Williamson County "open zone" rules to transfer to rival schools only to have success AGAINST the motherland.

Even today, Ravenwood doesn't have the advantage of being in a county (South of Knoxville, *cough cough*) where anyone can attend schools out of zone, albeit for a fee. And unlike a certain school in Murfreesboro, Ravenwood doesn't have a former principal hand-drawing the county's school zone boundaries in a gerrymandering-like scheme to ensure the neighborhoods with the best athletes end up at the right school. 

But at the end of the day, it won't matter, because the Raptors will be getting better each day, and taking care of business when the lights go on each Friday night. Ravenwood still ought to be getting to work, because I heard the trophy case needs a little more room for another Gold Ball.

[BT Mafia]

16 minutes ago, Swipes said:

I don't know how you got that from BT Mafia's post.  The question is why move half way across the state when there are good schools academically, have good football teams, and the cost of living be a lot less than the Ravenwood area?  The article plainly states there is a link between Melvin Cole (The Guardian of the 5 players) and Reggie Grimes the new DC at Ravenwood when he said “We have a good relationship with Grimes and his father, so it worked out pretty well.” 

I was questioning his reading skills as well.  Thanks for having my back.

[Swipes]

27 minutes ago, LoveForTheGame said:

When Hester was getting kids from Metro Nashville and Rutherford County to enroll at Nolensville while pretending they were legitimate WilCo students, everyone ignored it. Now a few players openly and transparently decide to go to Ravenwood and everyone has a problem. 

It wasn't even that long ago (2011-12) when Ravenwood-zoned athletes were abusing Williamson County "open zone" rules to transfer to rival schools only to have success AGAINST the motherland.

Even today, Ravenwood doesn't have the advantage of being in a county (South of Knoxville, *cough cough*) where anyone can attend schools out of zone, albeit for a fee. And unlike a certain school in Murfreesboro, Ravenwood doesn't have a former principal hand-drawing the county's school zone boundaries in a gerrymandering-like scheme to ensure the neighborhoods with the best athletes end up at the right school. 

But at the end of the day, it won't matter, because the Raptors will be getting better each day, and taking care of business when the lights go on each Friday night. Ravenwood still ought to be getting to work, because I heard the trophy case needs a little more room for another Gold Ball.

Here is the problem its the link between the Guardian and Ravenwood's DC.  If Grimes stayed at MJ do you think the kids would be transferring there instead?  We are talking about 2 players of the 5 that have already transferred once this year and the TSSAA ruled them ineligible.  So now they are going to transfer almost 3 1/2 hrs away for non athletic reason's?  Ravenwood isn't BA and I hate to break it to you but Williamson Co is open zoned in the eyes of the TSSAA because they have a transfer police on file for out of zone kid's (https://williamsontnc.scriborder.com/).  

 

Ravenwood will be fine no matter what but do some research about your own school before you give out incorrect information

[ItsAlwaysSunnyInAtwood]

59 minutes ago, Swipes said:

I don't know how you got that from BT Mafia's post.  The question is why move half way across the state when there are good schools academically, have good football teams, and the cost of living be a lot less than the Ravenwood area?  The article plainly states there is a link between Melvin Cole (The Guardian of the 5 players) and Reggie Grimes the new DC at Ravenwood when he said “We have a good relationship with Grimes and his father, so it worked out pretty well.” 

My original reply was to Director. He said that a kid should be ineligible if they make a move unless their parents teach in the new school system... And it snowballed from there. 

 

Like I said earlier this does smell fishy but that particular suggestion didn't make much sense. 

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3 minutes ago, WarEagleCartman said:

My original reply was to Director. He said that a kid should be ineligible if they make a move unless their parents teach in the new school system... And it snowballed from there. 

 

Like I said earlier this does smell fishy but that particular suggestion didn't make much sense. 

Well you quoted the wrong person .  I think everyone agrees that any family should be able to move at their own will to better their family except Director.  That's not how the article reads tho and is purely a link between Grimes and the Guardian for Athletic reason's  

[ItsAlwaysSunnyInAtwood]

2 minutes ago, Swipes said:

Well you quoted the wrong person .  I think everyone agrees that any family should be able to move at their own will to better their family except Director.  That's not how the article reads tho and is purely a link between Grimes and the Guardian for Athletic reason's  

like I said it's fishy for sure. I'm not mad they're out of Class A though. 

[LoveForTheGame]

27 minutes ago, Swipes said:

Here is the problem its the link between the Guardian and Ravenwood's DC.  If Grimes stayed at MJ do you think the kids would be transferring there instead?  We are talking about 2 players of the 5 that have already transferred once this year and the TSSAA ruled them ineligible.  So now they are going to transfer almost 3 1/2 hrs away for non athletic reason's?  Ravenwood isn't BA and I hate to break it to you but Williamson Co is open zoned in the eyes of the TSSAA because they have a transfer police on file for out of zone kid's (https://williamsontnc.scriborder.com/).  

 

Ravenwood will be fine no matter what but do some research about your own school before you give out incorrect information

Maybe the TSSAA has allowed Wilco transfers to play immediately more often than not, but the county’s zoning own policies have largely prevented anarchic free agentcy.  

There are a few major exceptions, such as “open zone” schools to alleviate certain situations of overcrowding. Years ago (long before Nolensville opened), Ravenwood was hit HARD by this rule as it allowed RHS-zoned kids to openly transfer for any reason including athletics. Brentwood and Centennial feasted off Ravenwood’s zone in the pre-Hester years.

Of course, when the Raptors on-field performance drastically improved and Ravenwood became a place kids wanted to transfer into and play, only then conveniently the county had a zoning  policy and that “rules are rules.” Heck, when a Ravenwood-zoned Centennial player transfered back to Ravenwood a handful of years ago, he had to sit out a year for transferring despite being at his ZONED school. 

[MidTennFootball]

1 hour ago, LoveForTheGame said:

When Hester was getting kids from Metro Nashville and Rutherford County to enroll at Nolensville while pretending they were legitimate WilCo students, everyone ignored it. Now a few players openly and transparently decide to go to Ravenwood and everyone has a problem. 

It wasn't even that long ago (2011-12) when Ravenwood-zoned athletes were abusing Williamson County "open zone" rules to transfer to rival schools only to have success AGAINST the motherland.

Even today, Ravenwood doesn't have the advantage of being in a county (South of Knoxville, *cough cough*) where anyone can attend schools out of zone, albeit for a fee. And unlike a certain school in Murfreesboro, Ravenwood doesn't have a former principal hand-drawing the county's school zone boundaries in a gerrymandering-like scheme to ensure the neighborhoods with the best athletes end up at the right school. 

But at the end of the day, it won't matter, because the Raptors will be getting better each day, and taking care of business when the lights go on each Friday night. Ravenwood still ought to be getting to work, because I heard the trophy case needs a little more room for another Gold Ball.

If your gonna accuse a program of impropriety just go ahead and man up and say Oakland. Oakland got completely screwed over, essentially gutting about 55-60% of the school when Siegel opened and it took the hiring of Thomas McDaniel to steer them back to where they are now. Oakland was doing pretty good long before Spurlock became superintendent

[workinprogress]

This is the first I have heard of Hester getting illegal players from out of zone. I had always heard Hester wanted to go to Nolensville because that is where his athletes were. If you knew he was getting illegal players why wasn't it brought up on these boards. 

Also, even if Hester was getting illegal players it still does not make it right now. 

I'll add that Rutherfords zones are all pretty consistent with the way they have been before the new director. They have only slightly changed now due to Rockvale opening. The thing that has helped oakland the most is the IB program and the high level of coaches there. Even their middle school staff is top notch. 

Edited July 15, 2019 by workinprogress

[sheppy]

How does Melvin Cole become the Guardian of 5 football players in Memphis?  To me, that's a red flag right there.  I am guessing he is their legal educational guardian.

[Red Rebels]

14 hours ago, Waker said:

Thank you so much for being the voice of reason. Glad you are here to take up for Greenback. Big Orange Machine, I hope your new favorite team has a good season.

Alcoa is his second team. Greenback can be third.