Clinton

[bonkers]

50 minutes ago, gcapride said:

Pretty much works that way at every school, doesn’t it? My point is that I don’t see the athletes standing on the sidelines at Clinton right now. 

 

By by the way, all you “guru’s” saying this style of offense doesn’t work at this level, Creasy still runs a ton of WingT at Oakland. I believe the record shows he won the 6A title last year. 

It's a matter of talent and athletes. Some offensive styles fit some athletes better than others. Cleveland ran the wing t when they won three titles in a row but it frankly wouldn't have mattered what they ran on offense because they had overwhelming talent. From what I've seen of Clinton, the wing t isn't their problem and it isn't a bad offense for their personnel.

[haweanbula]

1 minute ago, bonkers said:

It's a matter of talent and athletes. Some offensive styles fit some athletes better than others. Cleveland ran the wing t when they won three titles in a row but it frankly wouldn't have mattered what they ran on offense because they had overwhelming talent. From what I've seen of Clinton, the wing t isn't their problem and it isn't a bad offense for their personnel.

Clinton had good athletes last year and the year previous to that but didn't pull any upsets or beat anybody they shouldn't have beat. They don't have the athletes this year and they aren't performing or executing the offense on a high level at all. You would expect to see improvement in a system offense like the WingT after 3 years. The kids have clearly not bought into him, the offense or his coaching style. and the fact multiple people from schools they have played said the HC and coaches are yelling and screaming at each other mean it's the same with the coaches

[gcapride]

13 minutes ago, bonkers said:

It's a matter of talent and athletes. Some offensive styles fit some athletes better than others. Cleveland ran the wing t when they won three titles in a row but it frankly wouldn't have mattered what they ran on offense because they had overwhelming talent. From what I've seen of Clinton, the wing t isn't their problem and it isn't a bad offense for their personnel.

You’ve gone Bonkers, man! Sorry, couldn’t pass that name up. You guys will know better than me if you follow Clinton every week. I saw 1 game and shared what I thought about it on the Halls thread. I know what Randy can do and did with our program. We were a doormat and he built the program, facilities, etc over the years. And it took him longer than 2 1/2 seasons to do it. Good luck to the Dragons and fans. Looks like there’s some coming together that needs to happen. 

 

*edit: Bonkers comment was a joke

Edited September 22, 2019 by gcapride

[Opie Shaggnasty]

2-8.pitiful.

[oridgecat]

14 hours ago, Opie Shaggnasty said:

2-8.pitiful.

That's 2 more than many predicted.  

[BarneySox2007]

14 hours ago, Opie Shaggnasty said:

2-8.pitiful.

Opie what I would do is go straight to the coach and ask him what the problems that are keeping Clinton from getting better. I do know he is a decent coach but kind of hard to understand sometimes. I had a nephew that played for him at GCA and I didn't agree with everything he done but I did support him during that time. His personal life put a lot on his plate most coaches could have not come back from and I would have been the last person to give him any more during that very hard time in his life.  He is a good X's and O's coach but Clinton may not have the crop of kids coming through to just turn things around overnight. He is a hometown product of Clinton and I'm sure he feels it the worse.

Edited November 4, 2019 by BarneySox2007

[Opie Shaggnasty]

Hollingsworth has gotten serious about facilities. Lets see how serious he is about coaches.

[BeachHound]

On 11/19/2019 at 3:07 PM, Opie Shaggnasty said:

Hollingsworth has gotten serious about facilities. Lets see how serious he is about coaches.

What exactly do you mean?  This isn't exactly college football, where you can "find your guy and pony up the dollars."  To be totally honest, the job isn't all that attractive.  Fire Catlett, pushed Kerr out, fire native son McKamey after only 3 years.  Outside looking in, not many coaches want to go to a program with only 3 winning seasons in 20 years and a seemingly dysfunctional administration that fires coaches without going all in to build a program with him.

[DragonVol]

Administration is the problem... must fix the people in charge before you can fix an individual program. 

[BeachHound]

On 11/22/2019 at 2:23 PM, DragonVol said:

Administration is the problem... must fix the people in charge before you can fix an individual program. 

Elaborate more???

[Pinocchio007]

On 11/21/2019 at 10:17 AM, BeachHound said:

What exactly do you mean?  This isn't exactly college football, where you can "find your guy and pony up the dollars."  To be totally honest, the job isn't all that attractive.  Fire Catlett, pushed Kerr out, fire native son McKamey after only 3 years.  Outside looking in, not many coaches want to go to a program with only 3 winning seasons in 20 years and a seemingly dysfunctional administration that fires coaches without going all in to build a program with him.

Questions is does Admin want to be successful? It looks like a strong fan base wants someone in there that can change it around quickly. That can be good and bad. 

Also, why would Ellison be the Front-Runner? Was he not the interim at one point? Also, Head Coach at Powell for a few years? It seems he was unsuccessful at Powell 

[oridgecat]

15 minutes ago, Pinocchio007 said:

Questions is does Admin want to be successful? It looks like a strong fan base wants someone in there that can change it around quickly. That can be good and bad. 

Also, why would Ellison be the Front-Runner? Was he not the interim at one point? Also, Head Coach at Powell for a few years? It seems he was unsuccessful at Powell 

Same thing at Karns?  I think he took over Powell which was a mess and Karns, well it's Karns.