How does our State Champions stack up?

[GeneralForrest]

14 hours ago, Salem said:

East Robertson has one of the best WR prospects in the state. If he plays next year he might score 5 TDS. If he goes to Ensworth or BA we will win handily. We more than contained him this year though.

He played QB on us, we hit him in a brutal collision with our #6 on the first drive and helicopter flipped him on a pass when he was playing in the secondary, and by then he didn't know where he was. 

[WingT08]

On 12/17/2019 at 6:17 PM, H2Oman said:

Hog wash....

 

Example : Antioch High School in 6 A (exclusively black athletes ) would get beat by nearly any 1A / 2A team that is decent ( including Forrest)

 

Example: Whites Creek ( I believe is 4 A) got ran off the field by an average Westmoreland team who is predominantly white.

 

Example: Tyner ( great football team) but with your theory they should win the State Championship every year but it doesn’t happen.

 

 

 

 

this is because of coaching. 

[rlh]

8 hours ago, GeneralForrest said:

I responded inside the quote box 

How many of the Forrest Raiders did it take to tackle Jasper's Zemen or a Muir (if they could catch one)?

[H2Oman]

48 minutes ago, WingT08 said:

this is because of coaching. 

My point exactly... I’ll take a team full of coachable kids ( any ethnicity) anytime. If kids are not coachable then they are no better than a football team full of cheerleaders and I don’t care what color, how athletic, etc...

[Guy001]

10 hours ago, H2Oman said:

My point exactly... I’ll take a team full of coachable kids ( any ethnicity) anytime. If kids are not coachable then they are no better than a football team full of cheerleaders and I don’t care what color, how athletic, etc...

spot on

[InterestingDan]

13 hours ago, rlh said:

How many of the Forrest Raiders did it take to tackle Jasper's Zemen or a Muir (if they could catch one)?

I feel like this is one of those "how many (  ) does it take to screw in a light bulb" things...in that case sheesh!

[GeneralForrest]

14 hours ago, rlh said:

How many of the Forrest Raiders did it take to tackle Jasper's Zemen or a Muir (if they could catch one)?

that discussion has already been had. 

[GeneralForrest]

3 hours ago, Guy001 said:

spot on

coachability and athleticism are not mutually exclusive, so this is a straw man argument 

[Guy001]

26 minutes ago, GeneralForrest said:

coachability and athleticism are not mutually exclusive, so this is a straw man argument 

lol, I think that comment is the straw man argument (admittedly haven't read all the thread so maybe h20 comment refers to something else I missed).  You can have multiple individual or team factors... speed v size, great running attack v passing, offense v defense, etc.  They're not mutually exclusive but you can have a preference. In that line of reasoning I'll take the coachable player over the athlete (and hope I get a few that are both).

[ysoangry]

I get to watch a ton of Florida HS football and it is truly a different animal here. All the kids, regardless of ethnicity, who make the varsity teams for these schools are animals. Watched a quarterfinal game in 7A which had 21 power 5 offers between the two teams.  Pretty sure Vero Beach HS could beat UTM or Murray state 50% of the times they play, and Vero got smoked in quarters.  

[Tide21]

58 minutes ago, ysoangry said:

I get to watch a ton of Florida HS football and it is truly a different animal here. All the kids, regardless of ethnicity, who make the varsity teams for these schools are animals. Watched a quarterfinal game in 7A which had 21 power 5 offers between the two teams.  Pretty sure Vero Beach HS could beat UTM or Murray state 50% of the times they play, and Vero got smoked in quarters.  

I read somewhere that Florida has put more players in the nfl than any other state. Majority of them coming from Miami dade county area. 

[RocketHouse]

This article is over three years old and is based on places of birth of NFL players not high school attended but TN is in the top third. Some counties in the top 5 may have more players than most states. 

https://www.cleveland.com/datacentral/2016/09/which_states_produce_the_most.html

 

Rank	State	Players
1	Florida	193
2	California	187
3	Texas	160
4	Georgia	97
5	Ohio	80
6	Pennsylvania	66
7	Louisiana	63
8	Alabama	60
9	New Jersey	50
10	South Carolina	48
11	Michigan	46
12	Virginia	43
13	North Carolina	42
14	Illinois	38
15	New York	36
16	Tennessee	34
17	Maryland	28
18	Mississippi	27
(tie)	Missouri	27
(tie)	Wisconsin	27

 

Over half of all NFL players come from just seven states. Most states will seem weak when compared to GA or FL . 

 

 

Edited December 19, 2019 by Salem