RocketHouse Posted July 14, 2020 Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, osunut2 said: Fwiw, a tremendous amount of the data cited were from a handful of provinces in China. There are mixed feelings about the WHO in all of this, but as of July 9, they maintain that "the extent of truly asymptomatic infection in the community remains unknown" and that "transmission from infected people without symptoms is difficult to study." So I guess they are just really good at talking out of both sides of their mouth. https://www.who.int/news-room/commentaries/detail/transmission-of-sars-cov-2-implications-for-infection-prevention-precautions They have to balance science with politics. They can only present and report on the info at hand. The 4 studies show transmission is very low or rare as the WHO doctor said. Yes, the subject may be difficult to study but the best info they have DETAILED contact tracing suggests exactly what the doctor originally stated. Transmission from infected people without symptoms is difficult to study. However, information can be gathered from detailed contact tracing efforts, as well as epidemiologic investigations among cases and contacts. Information from contact tracing efforts reported to WHO by Member States, available transmission studies and a recent pre-print systematic reviews suggests that individuals without symptoms are less likely to transmit the virus than those who develop symptoms.(10, 81, 84, 85) Four individual studies from Brunei, Guangzhou China, Taiwan China and the Republic of Korea found that between 0% and 2.2% of people with asymptomatic infection infected anyone else, compared to 0.8%-15.4% of people with symptoms.(10, 72, 86, 87) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osunut2 Posted July 14, 2020 Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 13 minutes ago, Salem said: They have to balance science with politics. They can only present and report on the info at hand. The 4 studies show transmission is very low or rare as the WHO doctor said. Yes, the subject may be difficult to study but the best info they have DETAILED contact tracing suggests exactly what the doctor originally stated. Transmission from infected people without symptoms is difficult to study. However, information can be gathered from detailed contact tracing efforts, as well as epidemiologic investigations among cases and contacts. Information from contact tracing efforts reported to WHO by Member States, available transmission studies and a recent pre-print systematic reviews suggests that individuals without symptoms are less likely to transmit the virus than those who develop symptoms.(10, 81, 84, 85) Four individual studies from Brunei, Guangzhou China, Taiwan China and the Republic of Korea found that between 0% and 2.2% of people with asymptomatic infection infected anyone else, compared to 0.8%-15.4% of people with symptoms.(10, 72, 86, 87) Agreed. And there has been zero follow up to this data since it was first published. I've actually seen more recent published data that contradicts the WHO's findings, but I couldn't tell you how "good" that data actually is. To me, we should be throwing a ton of domestic resources at the asymptomatic spread question, because if in fact it is rare for asymptomatic carriers to spread this, that is a game changer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjuhb Posted July 14, 2020 Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 8 hours ago, Jim1972 said: Covid sucks and so does "Grope your Granddaughter Joe!"Schools will be open to vote mjubby is wrong. Luckily Grandpa Joe will win and Trump will Sue cause what Trump does he sues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjuhb Posted July 14, 2020 Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 4 hours ago, GWAVE1 said: Well if Democrats would quit letting illegals and dead people vote it would not be a problem now would it!! Guess who gave dead people 1200$ in stimulus money. Donald J Trump. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/06/25/coronavirus-irs-sent-stimulus-checks-1-million-dead-people/3256793001/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsguy22 Posted July 14, 2020 Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 27 minutes ago, osunut2 said: Agreed. And there has been zero follow up to this data since it was first published. I've actually seen more recent published data that contradicts the WHO's findings, but I couldn't tell you how "good" that data actually is. To me, we should be throwing a ton of domestic resources at the asymptomatic spread question, because if in fact it is rare for asymptomatic carriers to spread this, that is a game changer. Agree completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjuhb Posted July 14, 2020 Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 3 hours ago, sportsguy22 said: Just pointing out the hypocritical nature of basically claiming a politician is honest, faultless, and blameless. It's idiotic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWAVE1 Posted July 14, 2020 Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 19 minutes ago, mjuhb said: Guess who gave dead people 1200$ in stimulus money. Donald J Trump. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/06/25/coronavirus-irs-sent-stimulus-checks-1-million-dead-people/3256793001/ People die all the time, however they do not vote. Enough your done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjuhb Posted July 14, 2020 Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, GWAVE1 said: People die all the time, however they do not vote. Enough your done. Actually I’m not Done. And Republicans don’t hand out welfare money to billionaires. Edited July 14, 2020 by mjuhb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachT Posted July 14, 2020 Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 Come on, guys. Y'all know better than to bring politics on here. All of this and you have changed NOBODY's mind on either side. Start another one if you can stay on topic. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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