Region 1-6A Tiebreaker

[Expatriate]

Please help me out -- what's the tiebreaker in R1-6A if Science Hill wins Friday and they, Dobyns-Bennett, and Farragut all finish 5-1 in the region?

[stockton4182]

17 minutes ago, Expatriate said:

Please help me out -- what's the tiebreaker in R1-6A if Science Hill wins Friday and they, Dobyns-Bennett, and Farragut all finish 5-1 in the region?

Highest number of overall wins.

[Utvols21141]

It goes to best overall record.

Basically if SH wins against Bearden and DB wins against Alcoa. It is 1.DB 2.SH 3.Farragut

SH wins and DB falls to Alcoa 1. SH 2.DB 3.Farrgut

 

SH loses to bearden 1. DB 2. FARRAGUT 3.Bearden 4. SH

I think I have that right. There is other scenarios that could play out if Jeff Co was to beat Farragut but basically it goes to overall record and then goes to head to head. 

[ErikG]

WEEK 11

D-B vs Alcoa (non-region Thursday game)

Farragut @ Jefferson Co (R1-6A)

Science Hill @ Bearden (R1-6A)

 

SCENARIOS

D-B, FHS & SH all win:  (1) D-B  (2) FHS  (3) SH  (4) BHS

Only D-B wins:  (1) D-B  (2) FHS  (3) BHS  (4) SH

Only FHS wins:  (1) D-B  (2) FHS  (3) BHS  (4) SH

Only SH wins:  (1) SH  (2) D-B  (3) FHS  (4) BHS

D-B & FHS win (SH loses):  (1) D-B  (2) FHS  (3) BHS  (4) SH

D-B & SH win (FHS loses):  (1) SH  (2) D-B  (3) FHS  (4) BHS

FHS & SH win (D-B loses):  (1) SH  (2) D-B  (3) FHS  (4) BHS

All 3 lose:  (1) D-B  (2) FHS  (3) BHS  (4) SH

Edited October 26, 2020 by ErikG
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[timcraw]

9 hours ago, ErikG said:

WEEK 11

D-B vs Alcoa (non-region Thursday game)

Farragut @ Jefferson Co (R1-6A)

Science Hill @ Bearden (R1-6A)

 

SCENARIOS

D-B, FHS & SH all win:  (1) D-B  (2) FHS  (3) SH  (4) BHS

Only D-B wins:  (1) D-B  (2) FHS  (3) BHS  (4) SH

Only FHS wins:  (1) D-B  (2) FHS  (3) BHS  (4) SH

Only SH wins:  (1) SH  (2) D-B  (3) FHS  (4) BHS

D-B & FHS win (SH loses):  (1) D-B  (2) FHS  (3) BHS  (4) SH

D-B & SH win (FHS loses):  (1) SH  (2) D-B  (3) FHS  (4) BHS

FHS & SH win (D-B loses):  (1) SH  (2) D-B  (3) FHS  (4) BHS

All 3 lose:  (1) D-B  (2) FHS  (3) BHS  (4) SH

If DB And Science hill win then wouldnt DB get the one seed. That puts db with 9 wins to SH 8 wins

[osunut2]

10 minutes ago, timcraw said:

If DB And Science hill win then wouldnt DB get the one seed. That puts db with 9 wins to SH 8 wins

SH gets the 1-seed in that scenario because of the head-to-head win over DB. Overall wins only comes in to play with a 3-way (or more) tie that can't be broken by head-to-head record.

[timcraw]

2 minutes ago, osunut2 said:

SH gets the 1-seed in that scenario because of the head-to-head win over DB. Overall wins only comes in to play with a 3-way (or more) tie that can't be broken by head-to-head record.

Oh okay. thanks for clearing that up for me

[sportsguy22]

1 minute ago, osunut2 said:

SH gets the 1-seed in that scenario because of the head-to-head win over DB. Overall wins only comes in to play with a 3-way (or more) tie that can't be broken by head-to-head record.

Correct. I truly hope they change this horrible tiebreaker rule of using non-region games to break ties. Teams play a wide range of non-region schedules and it’s about as unfair as it gets. Use region games only to break ties!! If three or more are tied, use point differential or points allowed in games with the tied teams. You can even use just the first half point differential or points allowed, if they are worried about running the score up late in games. Typically, with tied teams in regions though, those games are tight and extremely competitive. 

[osunut2]

5 minutes ago, sportsguy22 said:

Correct. I truly hope they change this horrible tiebreaker rule of using non-region games to break ties. Teams play a wide range of non-region schedules and it’s about as unfair as it gets. Use region games only to break ties!! If three or more are tied, use point differential or points allowed in games with the tied teams. You can even use just the first half point differential or points allowed, if they are worried about running the score up late in games. Typically, with tied teams in regions though, those games are tight and extremely competitive. 

Yeah, I hate using overall wins as a tie-breaker. Definitely encourages teams to pad their non-region schedule with doormats.

[sportsguy22]

2 minutes ago, osunut2 said:

Yeah, I hate using overall wins as a tie-breaker. Definitely encourages teams to pad their non-region schedule with doormats.

As with a lot of issues and rules, the TSSAA just typically stays status quo and has little to no vision on things like this. Way behind the 8-ball on something so simple to adjust!

[blazer1set]

1 hour ago, osunut2 said:

Yeah, I hate using overall wins as a tie-breaker. Definitely encourages teams to pad their non-region schedule with doormats.

Boone always schedules non-region games against Elizabethton, Greeneville, Dobyns-Bennett, Science Hill, etc. because that supposedly helps us get better for the playoffs.    All of these are known losses before the season begins, they are basically glorified scrimmages, throwaway games.     And what happens is that in a tiebreaker situation we are always going to have more losses than Crockett or Tenn High because they schedule mostly winnable games for non-region.     (now before anyone points out the Greeneville game this year, yeah sure every now and then a blind squirrel finds an acorn, but if you look historically Boone always loses 99% of those aforementioned non-region games). 

[stockton4182]

23 hours ago, blazer1set said:

Boone always schedules non-region games against Elizabethton, Greeneville, Dobyns-Bennett, Science Hill, etc. because that supposedly helps us get better for the playoffs.    All of these are known losses before the season begins, they are basically glorified scrimmages, throwaway games.     And what happens is that in a tiebreaker situation we are always going to have more losses than Crockett or Tenn High because they schedule mostly winnable games for non-region.     (now before anyone points out the Greeneville game this year, yeah sure every now and then a blind squirrel finds an acorn, but if you look historically Boone always loses 99% of those aforementioned non-region games). 

It really helped Boone to win the Musket Bowl didn't it lol