Swipes Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 (edited) 20 minutes ago, guthook said: You're not real comfortable with civil discourse are you? I'm not real comfortable with people calling something that it is in fact it's not. If you actually have an argument and have facts to back up your argument, then I'll listen. Edited April 14, 2021 by Swipes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rerun92 Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Swipes said: I'm not real comfortable with people calling something that it is in fact not. If you actually have an argument and have facts to back up your argument, then I'll listen. I'd still say that you're splitting hairs. This is an officer that is assigned to the school and works in conjunction with the administration. But whatever, I'm not stressed out enough over it to call you names. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSURacer Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 21 hours ago, 32hammer said: I'm very close to this specific situation. Again no liberal can offer a valid reason why guns were easier to get decades ago, almost every guy in a small town or rural area had a gun in his vehicle at school and we didn't have a problem. I stand by my statement that all mass shootings have two things in common 1) The shooter had a horrible or absent father 2) basically defenseless targets I'll try to bow out of this thread now. Curious about your father theory. Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold (the Columbine shooters) both had present and attentive fathers from what I remember. So did Elliot Rodger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swipes Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 18 minutes ago, guthook said: I'd still say that you're splitting hairs. This is an officer that is assigned to the school and works in conjunction with the administration. But whatever, I'm not stressed out enough over it to call you names. And why it was called an Officer involved shooting at the school and not a school shooting. (You even used officer instead of faculty member). Multiple officers were on scene when it happened not just Wilson the resource officer and at that point, the student hadn't done anything with the firearm until the officers engaged. So if it was a different Officer that was hit would you really think differently? It hasn't even been released yet if Wilson was even the officer that shot him. They are still trying to find the motive for why he had a gun at the school in the first place and his GF has even came out and said they were mad at each other that day. "This wasn't a school shooting, this was an officer-involved shooting inside of a school, much different. At this point, the student hadn't done anything with the firearm until the officers engaged," TBI said. "It's important to make that distinction." This was from the CNN article Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rerun92 Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 6 minutes ago, MSURacer said: Curious about your father theory. Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold (the Columbine shooters) both had present and attentive fathers from what I remember. So did Elliot Rodger. Yeah, it's a false theory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rerun92 Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, Swipes said: And why it was called an Officer involved shooting at the school and not a school shooting. (You even used officer instead of faculty member). Multiple officers were on scene when it happened not just Wilson the resource officer and at that point, the student hadn't done anything with the firearm until the officers engaged. So if it was a different Officer that was hit would you really think differently? It hasn't even been released yet if Wilson was even the officer that shot him. They are still trying to find the motive for why he had a gun at the school in the first place and his GF has even came out and said they were mad at each other that day. "This wasn't a school shooting, this was an officer-involved shooting inside of a school, much different. At this point, the student hadn't done anything with the firearm until the officers engaged," TBI said. "It's important to make that distinction." This was from the CNN article Why don't you want it described as a school shooting? I'm not sure I understand where you're coming from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sx1234 Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 5 minutes ago, guthook said: Why don't you want it described as a school shooting? I'm not sure I understand where you're coming from. Why do you want it described as a school shooting? I am not sure I understand where you're coming from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rerun92 Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, sx1234 said: Why do you want it described as a school shooting? I am not sure I understand where you're coming from. A kid took a gun in to a school and shot it. That's all I really know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swipes Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 1 minute ago, guthook said: Why don't you want it described as a school shooting? I'm not sure I understand where you're coming from. Because it wasn't a school shooting is why it shouldn't be described as one. Classifying things that they aren't is dangerous is where I'm coming from. School Shootings are when the suspect is going after a student or faculty member to do harm too which was not the case with the "At this point, the student hadn't done anything with the firearm until the officers engaged" comment when they found him in the bathroom because they had a tip that a student had a gun. He could have had it for protection for leaving school for all we know right now and why they are still trying to find out why he had the gun ion school in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swipes Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, guthook said: A kid took a gun in to a school and shot it. That's all I really know. Because you fail to actually educate yourself on the subject at hand...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rerun92 Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, Swipes said: Because you fail to actually educate yourself on the subject at hand...... By your logic: Kenny Bartley wasn't a school shooter then. His intention was to sell the gun. Edited April 14, 2021 by guthook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swipes Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 11 minutes ago, guthook said: By your logic: Kenny Bartley wasn't a school shooter then. His intention was to sell the gun. Get your story straight he planned to trade the gun for Oxy's not sell the gun. He also went after the three school officials (Faculty once again) when he stood up with the gun waving it at them (Not loaded at that point) he then pulled out an ammunition clip, loaded the gun and fired. Bartley also made the comment " Yes, it’s real. I’ll show you. I never liked you anyway. " School Shootings are when the suspect is going after a student or faculty member to do harm too so yes by my Logic Kenny Bartley was a school shooter going after the three school officials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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