Bearden open

[edwardblake]

2 minutes ago, HTV said:

So you think they weren't made aware of the requirements for the candidate from an eligibility standpoint from the get go? You think they went in to it thinking they could hire whoever they wanted without KCS HR needing to approve?    As I said, all but one are Knox County Schools employees.  They know how it works.  

Sometimes I wonder if anybody here ever thinks about what they post before hitting "submit reply".  

Knowing what you know in your view is a person who is not a certified or classified employee eligible?

[AndyDufrane99]

4 minutes ago, HTV said:

So you think they weren't made aware of the requirements for the candidate from an eligibility standpoint from the get go? You think they went in to it thinking they could hire whoever they wanted without KCS HR needing to approve?    As I said, all but one are Knox County Schools employees.  They know how it works.  

Sometimes I wonder if anybody here ever thinks about what they post before hitting "submit reply".  

As usual HTV, a strawman argument from you. 

OF course they were made aware of the literal requirements. But it dont seem theyre thinking of the fallout of decisions. It might be totally "legal" to hire a coach that's not in building that won't retain any in building coaches, but what is the fallout? That's all Im wondering about

[HTV]

2 minutes ago, edwardblake said:

Knowing what you know in your view is a person who is not a certified or classified employee eligible?

Let me preface by saying that I am not a Knox County Schools official or employee and I don't play one on the interwebz.  My personal knowledge comes from being around coaches and administrators for a long time because of my involvement covering high school sports as a media guy and having many conversations on what does in to decisions like this.   

To answer your question, I don't see Knox County approving a non Knox certified or classified employee as a head coach in football. That's just not been done before.  There have been exceptions for sports such as golf and tennis, but I can't remember one for football or basketball.  Never say never, but if they do it certainly will set a precedent.  

[LEFTYKNOX]

Pretty sure JJ is a bookie. Or at least that’s what I’ve been told and seen on his Twitter gambling. He doesn’t need a TA job. All it takes to be a HC is call the plays.

Edited December 9, 2021 by LEFTYKNOX

[HTV]

5 minutes ago, AndyDufrane99 said:

As usual HTV, a strawman argument from you. 

OF course they were made aware of the literal requirements. But it dont seem theyre thinking of the fallout of decisions. It might be totally "legal" to hire a coach that's not in building that won't retain any in building coaches, but what is the fallout? That's all Im wondering about

Strawman?  

Or perhaps maybe you just think you are superior to those actually tasked with making the hire.  

Nothing I said is "strawman" in nature.  And your admission that they were aware makes your finger pointing completely illegitimate.  

And tell me where I have suggested that hiring a coach who isn't inside the building for his/her "daytime" job a good idea?  In fact, I have indicated just the opposite and I don't believe it will happen here, either.  

Don't put words in my mouth.  Ever.  I'm a Bearden alum.  I want to see this hire done right.  And nowhere have I said that I believe that the one who is assumed to be the hire is or isn't the best choice.  

[JohnnyUtah]

This is Bearden pulling up to the table and play the game. If JJ is indeed the coach then BHS did their homework to make sure they checked the boxes. BHS can keep doing what their doing and get the same result or they can operate like the rest. 

[HTV]

1 minute ago, JohnnyUtah said:

This is Bearden pulling up to the table and play the game. If JJ is indeed the coach then BHS did their homework to make sure they checked the boxes. BHS can keep doing what their doing and get the same result or they can operate like the rest. 

This.  

In spite of what the other "experts" on this forum think, the powers that be at Bearden know the process.  

 

[AndyDufrane99]

1 minute ago, HTV said:

Strawman?  

Or perhaps maybe you just think you are superior to those actually tasked with making the hire.  

Nothing I said is "strawman" in nature.  And your admission that they were aware makes your finger pointing completely illegitimate.  

And tell me where I have suggested that hiring a coach who isn't inside the building for his/her "daytime" job a good idea?  In fact, I have indicated just the opposite and I don't believe it will happen here, either.  

Don't put words in my mouth.  Ever.  I'm a Bearden alum.  I want to see this hire done right.  And nowhere have I said that I believe that the one who is assumed to be the hire is or isn't the best choice.  

Don't get sensitive HTV. I don't think you've said any of this. You simply defended the panel in their acumen for doing this and I'm simply afraid they've overlooked obvious consequences to certain decisions. R-E-L-A-X. 

[LEFTYKNOX]

If Jones is so great what happened at CAK in 2018 when he was OC? Did his high flying middle school offense not come to the games? 

[HTV]

2 minutes ago, AndyDufrane99 said:

Don't get sensitive HTV. I don't think you've said any of this. You simply defended the panel in their acumen for doing this and I'm simply afraid they've overlooked obvious consequences to certain decisions. R-E-L-A-X. 

I'm not sensitive.  Just not going to let you or anybody else infer that I have said something that I haven't.  You can take your "strawman" comment and shove it.  

[edwardblake]

10 minutes ago, HTV said:

Let me preface by saying that I am not a Knox County Schools official or employee and I don't play one on the interwebz.  My personal knowledge comes from being around coaches and administrators for a long time because of my involvement covering high school sports as a media guy and having many conversations on what does in to decisions like this.   

To answer your question, I don't see Knox County approving a non Knox certified or classified employee as a head coach in football. That's just not been done before.  There have been exceptions for sports such as golf and tennis, but I can't remember one for football or basketball.  Never say never, but if they do it certainly will set a precedent.  

 

5 minutes ago, JohnnyUtah said:

This is Bearden pulling up to the table and play the game. If JJ is indeed the coach then BHS did their homework to make sure they checked the boxes. BHS can keep doing what their doing and get the same result or they can operate like the rest. 

 

3 minutes ago, HTV said:

This.  

In spite of what the other "experts" on this forum think, the powers that be at Bearden know the process.  

 

How are all three of these true at the same time? They can't operate like the rest when they're doing something that has never been done before and for good reason hasn't been done.

[AndyDufrane99]

Just now, HTV said:

I'm not sensitive.  Just not going to let you or anybody else infer that I have said something that I haven't.  You can take your "strawman" comment and shove it.  

Wow. Mods will be on this one. I'm not sure you know what "strawman argument" means. It means you took what I said and changed it to make it easier to defeat in an argument. again, relax. I don't think you've said anything. Only think there's unintended consequences powers that be haven't considered. I'm saying absolutely nothing else