YoungBuck Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 Just now, oridgecat said: Yes it most definitely has. Well, I was going to but what's the point. Yall just want to run down the team and the program so nevermind. Come on OR cat, don't take your ball and go home. That sounds like loser talk right there... Cummings will get some guys in there, just wait. Him and the "Money man" aren't done yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oridgecat Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 Just now, YoungBuck said: Come on OR cat, don't take your ball and go home. That sounds like loser talk right there... Cummings will get some guys in there, just wait. Him and the "Money man" aren't done yet. Allrighty then, Well, that's hard to do because so many guys (about 20) didn't do spring because of track. Qualifying for state track meet was last Sat. That would have left only 2 practices for the track guys to join in and there's a 3 day acclimation period. So we were missing alot of offensive and defensive guys that we are counting on. We only had 4 of our skill guys that will end up starting. 1rb, and 2 receivers and a corner. So, there really wasn't much they could do that would resemble what we will see this fall. But I will tell you what I saw. The team went through their entire pregame routine just like they will on a Friday night. Then went into their position group drills. Then they put a defense out there and ran plays at it with no O lineman, basically 7 on 11 if you count the guy on a knee snapping the ball to qb. I thought the qbs made some really nice throws, not all of the throws were good, but when it was thrown to Heyward or Rogers or Ferrera it looked good. So, I guess what appeared to be bad passes or jump balls had much to do with who the receiver was. Then, they scrimmaged a little bit, but like YB said before, it was very vanilla, basic veer option stuff. So, in my opinion it is far too early to judge how this team will fare this season based on a glorified practice with most all our skill guys not out there. I will just say there is a long way to go with this team. As usual, the biggest issue is O line. That group will have to come a long way between now and Aug. to be competitive with the better teams on our schedule. Skill wise this team is absolutely loaded. But we all know that doesn't translate to wins if you can't block people. Considering we had about 20 that didn't participate at all because track I thought it was a good night. It was good to see everybody out at the Ship to support these guys. Again, what we see in August will look entirely different than what we saw last night. This team will go as far as the OL can carry them, and that group has a long long long way to go. Perhaps BoysfromSI can give us his take on the showcase. SI? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORDT Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 20 minutes ago, oridgecat said: Yes it most definitely has. Well, I was going to but what's the point. Yall just want to run down the team and the program so nevermind. I guess to get a different perspective? If you werent really there is it okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oridgecat Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 (edited) 25 minutes ago, ORDT said: I guess to get a different perspective? If you werent really there is it okay. I was there, Is what ok? Edited May 18, 2022 by oridgecat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyfromsi Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 1 hour ago, oridgecat said: Allrighty then, Well, that's hard to do because so many guys (about 20) didn't do spring because of track. Qualifying for state track meet was last Sat. That would have left only 2 practices for the track guys to join in and there's a 3 day acclimation period. So we were missing alot of offensive and defensive guys that we are counting on. We only had 4 of our skill guys that will end up starting. 1rb, and 2 receivers and a corner. So, there really wasn't much they could do that would resemble what we will see this fall. But I will tell you what I saw. The team went through their entire pregame routine just like they will on a Friday night. Then went into their position group drills. Then they put a defense out there and ran plays at it with no O lineman, basically 7 on 11 if you count the guy on a knee snapping the ball to qb. I thought the qbs made some really nice throws, not all of the throws were good, but when it was thrown to Heyward or Rogers or Ferrera it looked good. So, I guess what appeared to be bad passes or jump balls had much to do with who the receiver was. Then, they scrimmaged a little bit, but like YB said before, it was very vanilla, basic veer option stuff. So, in my opinion it is far too early to judge how this team will fare this season based on a glorified practice with most all our skill guys not out there. I will just say there is a long way to go with this team. As usual, the biggest issue is O line. That group will have to come a long way between now and Aug. to be competitive with the better teams on our schedule. Skill wise this team is absolutely loaded. But we all know that doesn't translate to wins if you can't block people. Considering we had about 20 that didn't participate at all because track I thought it was a good night. It was good to see everybody out at the Ship to support these guys. Again, what we see in August will look entirely different than what we saw last night. This team will go as far as the OL can carry them, and that group has a long long long way to go. Perhaps BoysfromSI can give us his take on the showcase. SI? Having been at every Spring scrimmage/showcase(?) for the past decade, let me say it is very typical for an Oak Ridge scrimmage. Which in other words, pretty meh. My understanding is between Track and Baseball that we have about 20 not practicing football. We were missing a lot of production in terms of points and tackles. Remember, everything is new: both on offense and defense. That said, I thought offensively we were ok, but still major problems on the o-line. We are very good at RB and WR. Defensively, we were more aggressive in our pass coverage and flowing to the ball. Again, with new systems being installed, it's way too early to make any judgements as to how well we are going to run them. I'm with Oridgecat, but with the DLine as well. We have a long way to go to get our linemen to be competitive with the top teams in our classification. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballer88 Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 1 hour ago, oridgecat said: Allrighty then, Well, that's hard to do because so many guys (about 20) didn't do spring because of track. Qualifying for state track meet was last Sat. That would have left only 2 practices for the track guys to join in and there's a 3 day acclimation period. So we were missing alot of offensive and defensive guys that we are counting on. We only had 4 of our skill guys that will end up starting. 1rb, and 2 receivers and a corner. So, there really wasn't much they could do that would resemble what we will see this fall. But I will tell you what I saw. The team went through their entire pregame routine just like they will on a Friday night. Then went into their position group drills. Then they put a defense out there and ran plays at it with no O lineman, basically 7 on 11 if you count the guy on a knee snapping the ball to qb. I thought the qbs made some really nice throws, not all of the throws were good, but when it was thrown to Heyward or Rogers or Ferrera it looked good. So, I guess what appeared to be bad passes or jump balls had much to do with who the receiver was. Then, they scrimmaged a little bit, but like YB said before, it was very vanilla, basic veer option stuff. So, in my opinion it is far too early to judge how this team will fare this season based on a glorified practice with most all our skill guys not out there. I will just say there is a long way to go with this team. As usual, the biggest issue is O line. That group will have to come a long way between now and Aug. to be competitive with the better teams on our schedule. Skill wise this team is absolutely loaded. But we all know that doesn't translate to wins if you can't block people. Considering we had about 20 that didn't participate at all because track I thought it was a good night. It was good to see everybody out at the Ship to support these guys. Again, what we see in August will look entirely different than what we saw last night. This team will go as far as the OL can carry them, and that group has a long long long way to go. Perhaps BoysfromSI can give us his take on the showcase. SI? What was the point in the late practice start time if it wasn’t to get the track kids able to attend practice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cactus Jack Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 I saw was a normal spring practice, missing the track and baseball guys, running basic stuff. I thought they do a good job of getting everybody involved, doing something. We should be good at the skill positions, if we can get three quality receivers on the field, teams won't be able to double us. Looks like two good running backs that can get yards if they get some push up front. I think the QB spot is up for grabs, and I understand the kid that ran JV last season is playing baseball and he is mobile run/pass. As others have said, the lines are the question, I think Coach Gray will do a good job with the offensive line, he just doesn't have a lot of depth there, so again, we have to avoid injuries there. I think the field goal/extra point kicker will be OK 40 yards in, if he builds leg strength, longer. The punter seemed to get off some good punts with plenty of air under them so they are easy to cover. Really can't tell much about the defense, but I think this team will be more offensive oriented. Things will get more specific and down to business in July when they start fall practice. Should be interesting to see how they do at the Carson Newman jamboree on August 11. I like what I see, but it is spring practice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oridgecat Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Footballer88 said: What was the point in the late practice start time if it wasn’t to get the track kids able to attend practice? The football field is not at the high school. Normally they practice at the high school on the practice field. But the track is being renovated so they can't use the practice field. They held spring practice at the game field off campus. The 4:50 start time is designed to give the players time to figure out how to get themselves to the game field, which is 2 mi. from campus. They had the kids carpool. Too cheap to pay a bus driver. Edited May 18, 2022 by oridgecat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballer88 Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 49 minutes ago, oridgecat said: The football field is not at the high school. Normally they practice at the high school on the practice field. But the track is being renovated so they can't use the practice field. They held spring practice at the game field off campus. The 4:50 start time is designed to give the players time to figure out how to get themselves to the game field, which is 2 mi. from campus. They had the kids carpool. Too cheap to pay a bus driver. It takes nearly two hours to travel 2 miles? I think the giving kids at track time to get to practice is a little more logical then that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oridgecat Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Footballer88 said: It takes nearly two hours to travel 2 miles? I think the giving kids at track time to get to practice is a little more logical then that No but it takes 65 teenagers a while to figure out how they are going to get to the practice field. Some carpool, some wait for a parent to show up and take them, and some walk. I will say this part again, see if you can follow. The track guys were training (track practice) trying to qualify for the state championship track meet. That qualifying meet was on Sat. That only leaves two spring football practices for them to participate. TSSAA has a three day acclimation period that require kids to be in shorts and helmets only. So, there was no point to have the track guys practice for two days in shorts while the other 65 kids have been at it for 2 weeks in pads. I hope that makes sense. In other words: They weren't waiting on the track guys to finish track practice and then make them start football practice. Once the non state qualifiers finished track there were only 2 practices left. So, the start time had nothing to do with track guys. Edited May 18, 2022 by oridgecat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballer88 Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 32 minutes ago, oridgecat said: No but it takes 65 teenagers a while to figure out how they are going to get to the practice field. Some carpool, some wait for a parent to show up and take them, and some walk. I will say this part again, see if you can follow. The track guys were training (track practice) trying to qualify for the state championship track meet. That qualifying meet was on Sat. That only leaves two spring football practices for them to participate. TSSAA has a three day acclimation period that require kids to be in shorts and helmets only. So, there was no point to have the track guys practice for two days in shorts while the other 65 kids have been at it for 2 weeks in pads. I hope that makes sense. In other words: They weren't waiting on the track guys to finish track practice and then make them start football practice. Once the non state qualifiers finished track there were only 2 practices left. So, the start time had nothing to do with track guys. Only 3 important football players were at the track meet Saturday? Kelly, Hundley, and Williams. We are in trouble if 3 guys make or break this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillieTheWildcats Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 9 hours ago, YoungBuck said: Okay, sounds good OR cat...I mean, "Nolenation3" I think I met OR cat along the track at McMinn County and I believe Nole 3 was up in the stands at the time. Pretty dang hard to be in two places at one time. Could it be YB is ShagNasty. Have I posted that Jacob Berven has signed with the Maryville Scots ? 7 hours ago, YoungBuck said: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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