Mullins steps down as AD at Oak Ridge

[oridgecat]

15 hours ago, froshpop said:

What really stinks is that two teaching positions which would allow a new coach to bring some assistants with him are held by Clinton football coaches. 

Yes, that is total BS and the policy that allows that to happen has to be changed.  We can't allow that crap to continue.  SS said it right.  Ridiculous.  

[osunut2]

13 hours ago, SweetScience said:

2014, I think? Someone feel free to correct me if I’m wrong.

Yup, it was 2014. The previous year they lost on a missed PAT.

[SweetScience]

25 minutes ago, oridgecat said:

Yes, that is total BS and the policy that allows that to happen has to be changed.  We can't allow that crap to continue.  SS said it right.  Ridiculous.  

If you wanna Coach @ Clinton, then take your a$& there and teach, too. I don’t get it.

Edited December 3, 2021 by SweetScience

[osunut2]

20 minutes ago, SweetScience said:

If you wanna Coach @ Clinton, then take your a$& there and teach, too. I don’t get it.

Honest question - Do they have any open teaching positions at Clinton?

[SweetScience]

15 minutes ago, osunut2 said:

Honest question - Do they have any open teaching positions at Clinton?

Don’t know, and frankly don’t care. But, the principle of it all is what’s ridiculous. You have 3 guys who played for OR, coached for OR, and went to school @ OR, not to mention 1 having a son that went to and starred at OR - coaching at a school that is OR’s arch nemesis, while teaching at OR. Whether Clinton has any positions available or not is beside the point really. Like I said, RIDICULOUS. If you love them that much, then wait for a position at Clinton to open, or better yet, just leave the OR school system altogether and go teach somewhere else.

Edited December 3, 2021 by SweetScience

[osunut2]

Just now, SweetScience said:

Maybe they don’t, I don’t know. But either way, it’s ridiculous in and of itself. Why would any guy who played, coached for, and went to school at, go and coach against that school with their arch nemesis?! 

I agree, that does seem odd. For some of these guys, the teaching position is the driver, and financially, these guys are likely compensated better at OR.

Right, wrong, or indifferent, this isn't uncommon in Knox County; there are assistants throughout KCS who do not physically teach at the school where they coach.

[SweetScience]

1 hour ago, osunut2 said:

I agree, that does seem odd. For some of these guys, the teaching position is the driver, and financially, these guys are likely compensated better at OR.

Right, wrong, or indifferent, this isn't uncommon in Knox County; there are assistants throughout KCS who do not physically teach at the school where they coach.

Let’s just say it’d be like former Powell players that also coached and went to school there, teaching at Powell, while coaching against them with Halls. I’m sure that would go over like a turd in a fruit bowl, same as what I mentioned with our former players. It’s one thing to do it with 2 different teams, but when those 2 teams are arch - rivals? Nah. There’s just no loyalty anymore, and really that’s more of an indictment against our culture as a whole, than just this one instance. It pervades all sports, and the society in general.

Edited December 3, 2021 by SweetScience

[osunut2]

8 minutes ago, SweetScience said:

Let’s just say it’d be like former Powell players that also coached and went to school there, teaching at Powell while coaching against them with Halls. I’m sure that would go over like a turd in a fruit bowl, same as what I mentioned with our former players. It’s one thing to do it with 2 different teams, but when those 2 teams are arch - rivals? Nah. There’s just no loyalty anymore, and really that’s more of slight against our culture as a whole, than just this one instance. It pervades all sports, and the society in general.

Completely agree, especially about the loyalty comment.

[oridgecat]

52 minutes ago, osunut2 said:

I agree, that does seem odd. For some of these guys, the teaching position is the driver, and financially, these guys are likely compensated better at OR.

Right, wrong, or indifferent, this isn't uncommon in Knox County; there are assistants throughout KCS who do not physically teach at the school where they coach.

 The difference here is that we are talking about 2 separate school systems.  It happens a lot in Knox County, but that is all within the same system.  Being paid to coach in region against the school that provides your paycheck?   Only in Oak Ridge would we let this happen.  It's beyond ridiculous.  It's Asinine!  

Another thing, in many systems in our state, the teaching and coaching are tied together.  You lose your teaching job, you're out as coach.  Lose your coaching job, out as teacher too.  I'm not saying this is right or wrong but it is true.  This makes it much easier for the HC to put together a quality staff that he wants.  

On a side note:  Clinton screwed the pooch when they poached the SD kids. They went hunting in the wrong back yard.   Stay tuned to that one.  

Edited December 3, 2021 by oridgecat

[STILLNUM1]

13 hours ago, oridgecat said:

 The difference here is that we are talking about 2 separate school systems.  It happens a lot in Knox County, but that is all within the same system.  Being paid to coach in region against the school that provides your paycheck?   Only in Oak Ridge would we let this happen.  It's beyond ridiculous.  It's Asinine!  

Another thing, in many systems in our state, the teaching and coaching are tied together.  You lose your teaching job, you're out as coach.  Lose your coaching job, out as teacher too.  I'm not saying this is right or wrong but it is true.  This makes it much easier for the HC to put together a quality staff that he wants.  

On a side note:  Clinton screwed the pooch when they poached the SD kids. They went hunting in the wrong back yard.   Stay tuned to that one.  

Bingo! So they have nonstop been trying to poach Oak Ridge guys and got a few but now South Doyle?Look forward to finding out more.They suck so bad nobody usually cares but dont piss off the wrong person.The drill sergeant has proved not to be very bright so nothing would surprise me.

[STILLNUM1]

14 hours ago, SweetScience said:

Let’s just say it’d be like former Powell players that also coached and went to school there, teaching at Powell, while coaching against them with Halls. I’m sure that would go over like a turd in a fruit bowl, same as what I mentioned with our former players. It’s one thing to do it with 2 different teams, but when those 2 teams are arch - rivals? Nah. There’s just no loyalty anymore, and really that’s more of an indictment against our culture as a whole, than just this one instance. It pervades all sports, and the society in general.

You nailed it about loyalty.Im glad to know other people see it and Im not crazy

[SweetScience]

6 minutes ago, STILLNUM1 said:

You nailed it about loyalty.Im glad to know other people see it and Im not crazy

It’s almost like they did it out of spite. I don’t know, I don’t wanna be too judgmental of them, because I truly don’t know their reasoning behind it or their motivations as a whole, but it’s just completely odd to me. 

Edited December 4, 2021 by SweetScience