OW?

[cbg]

The simple fact is that the TSSAA in all of their infinite wisdom does not provide any criteria as to how the most outstanding wrestler award should be determined.  

[Ummmno]

4 hours ago, fooseball95 said:

Man those kids are fun too watch, the hate is about to get more real 

nobody "hates" cleveland. We're all very well aware they're the best in the state every year.

 

What we hate is this victim mentality that if they don't win an award the whole state is conspiring against them. 

Edited February 28, 2022 by Ummmno

[fooseball95]

20 minutes ago, Ummmno said:

nobody "hates" cleveland. We're all very well aware they're the best in the state every year.

 

What we hate is this victim mentality that if they don't win an award the whole state is conspiring against them. 

Nobody is playing the victim. Everybody knows OW is a popularity contest. It isn’t just against cleveland. But what I am saying is, in the last 10 years of which cleveland has won 8, I don’t believe they have ever had a OW. Like Cbg said until there’s actually a legit criteria we have nothing to go by. I’m not taking anything away from any other wrestler or team. I’m just saying as mentioned before. There are some schools, not only cleveland, that get the short end.

Edited February 28, 2022 by fooseball95

[grumpyoldman]

1 hour ago, fooseball95 said:

Nobody is playing the victim. Everybody knows OW is a popularity contest. It isn’t just against cleveland. But what I am saying is, in the last 10 years of which cleveland has won 8, I don’t believe they have ever had a OW. Like Cbg said until there’s actually a legit criteria we have nothing to go by. I’m not taking anything away from any other wrestler or team. I’m just saying as mentioned before. There are some schools, not only cleveland, that get the short end.

Every award should go to Cleveland.  Yes, we get it.  Thanks for educating us.

There is no doubt in my mind.  If those two great athletes switched uniforms and weights, you would be on here complaining, talking about level of competition much harder in one bracket over the other.

Before it was announced, I figured it came down to those two.  And if Cleveland would have won it, wouldn't have surprised me.  I would have been on here saying great season, and great tourney.  They are both outstanding and expect they will succeed on the next level.

[fooseball95]

19 minutes ago, grumpyoldman said:

Every award should go to Cleveland.  Yes, we get it.  Thanks for educating us.

There is no doubt in my mind.  If those two great athletes switched uniforms and weights, you would be on here complaining, talking about level of competition much harder in one bracket over the other.

Before it was announced, I figured it came down to those two.  And if Cleveland would have won it, wouldn't have surprised me.  I would have been on here saying great season, and great tourney.  They are both outstanding and expect they will succeed on the next level.

So u think with cleveland winning both duals and traditionals, cleveland had equal opportunity to win OW as well?

[oceansize42]

13 minutes ago, fooseball95 said:

So u think with cleveland winning both duals and traditionals, cleveland had equal opportunity to win OW as well?

Yes.  I see no evidence to the contrary and I do not believe the majority of coaches had those thoughts (I'm sure some did).  Your speculation on human nature is not infallible and your complete and utter belief on how others will act under a given circumstance doesn't count as evidence.  

 

Everyone had equal opportunity and Sammy Shires walked away with that trophy, deservedly so.

[fooseball95]

5 minutes ago, oceansize42 said:

Yes.  I see no evidence to the contrary and I do not believe the majority of coaches had those thoughts (I'm sure some did).  Your speculation on human nature is not infallible and your complete and utter belief on how others will act under a given circumstance doesn't count as evidence.  

 

Everyone had equal opportunity and Sammy Shires walked away with that trophy, deservedly so.

Lol y’all fellas have a good afternoon, I’m done 

[Ummmno]

1 minute ago, fooseball95 said:

Lol y’all fellas have a good afternoon, I’m done 

again with the victim mentality..

 

wahhhh we won duals and traditional state so we cant get OW now.  oh poor pitiful cleveland..

 

grow up. 

[Bump11]

32 minutes ago, fooseball95 said:

So u think with cleveland winning both duals and traditionals, cleveland had equal opportunity to win OW as well?

you can’t say “nobody is playing the victim” and then say this. this post is literally you saying “we don’t have an equal opportunity, or people won’t vote for us, just cause we won everything together else and it’s not fair”. that’s literally by definition playing the victim. 

Edited February 28, 2022 by Bump11

[Rasslinking]

I think the confusion is:

Who is the best wrestler? Ashton

Who had the best tournament? Sammy

Who had the toughest bracket? Bradford

 Every State Champion has an argument to be OW…

Coaches have no idea what they are voting on…. 

[Bump11]

what i don’t get is how someone can appear in the last 6 dual championships in a row, and 13 of the last 15…winning 5 in a row and 8 out of 10

plus 3 traditional championships in a row, and 7 out of the last 10….and still complain about not winning something. it’s truly baffling.

Edited February 28, 2022 by Bump11

[Rasslinking]

4 minutes ago, Bump11 said:

what i don’t get is how someone can win the last 6 dual championships in a row, and 13 of the last 15…plus 5 traditional championships in a row, and 11 out of the last 12….and still complain about not winning something. it’s truly baffling.

I’m pretty confident none of those stats are correct