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1 minute ago, durdon said:

No, actually they don’t.  Every school has a zone that parents have to move out of before the student athlete is Eligible to participate.  For McCallie and Baylor that zone is much larger than any other schools in the state.  Whether you like it or not but boarding isn’t a legitimate move.  

Durdon, I respectfully disagree with you. The 2 boarding schools are different on out of state athletes who transfer while in HS, and do not have to sit a year unlike instate transfers without a change of address.

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20 hours ago, Rasslinking said:

His eligibility has nothing to do where he moved. Baylor is boarding so that’s a bona fide change(regardless if it’s not fair for everyone else)

It has to do with him FOLLOWING his coach which he had an athletic record with last year.

3) transferring into a school where a former coach has been hired; and (4) transferring to a school where a former or current personal trainer or strength and conditioning coach is employed

 

A couple of things here, Sturgill applied and was accepted to Baylor before Ed was hired by Baylor.  Second thing, Ed is coaching the girls team and assisting with the MS team.  He is not coaching the HS Boys team at all.  Third, Baylor cleared this with the state BEFORE hiring Ed and state approved the hire with Strugill being a student there. 
 

So please just Stop, I’m not sure if your beef is with Ed or Baylor but just stop, you are just embarrassing yourself. 

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31 minutes ago, noonesfool said:

Durdon, I respectfully disagree with you. The 2 boarding schools are different on out of state athletes who transfer while in HS, and do not have to sit a year unlike instate transfers without a change of address.

I don’t respectfully disagree with you.  You are a moron…  if you think a boarding student is not a  bona fide change of address. We are talking about 14, 15, 16 year olds going to live on their own. 

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And please nobody think that I am in anyway supporting the current TSSAA rules at all.  I think HS student should be able to switch to any school that will accept them every year of HS if they want.  So many kids are working their butts off to use their sport to get them into college.  Let them transfer to the schools and communities that are supporting their sport and where they will get the most exposure. 
 

The NCAA allowed it and it been better for students and hasn’t hurt the D1 sports at all, in fact I think it’s helped. 

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30 minutes ago, durdon said:

I don’t respectfully disagree with you.  You are a moron…  if you think a boarding student is not a  bona fide change of address. We are talking about 14, 15, 16 year olds going to live on their own. 

Scott, he is definitely not a moron.

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1 hour ago, JSamson7 said:

Scott, he is definitely not a moron.

Thank you Samson, right or wrong, I try to treat people right. My time has passed. My Son in Law and his Brother played FB for McCallie in the late 90’s transferred from Lake Jackson Texas as Sophomores, immediately eligible. Their parents did not change address. Durdon is technically correct, the boys did changed addresses. But that was the anger across the state for decades about the boarding schools. Many states would not compete against Boarding Schools and the BSchools had their own championships. Never ever will I forget the anger across the state when McCallie won multiple individual state title with several kids who won them in other states the previous year. I supported my friend Gordon who was highly castigated. I would like to meet durdon and he might find out that I’m not a moron. I have never been accused of that. I appreciate Durdons passion and what he does for TN Wrestling.

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I would be in favor of the TSSAA following the changes the NCAA made with kids transferring. Regardless of the reason, I do not think the kids should have to suffer by sitting out a year. 

We can bad mouth Baylor all we want, but it sounds like they cleared everything with the TSSAA. As far as Sturgill goes, I cannot blame the kid or his parents for wanting to make a change. He will obviously get a great education and that program has a reputation for producing college wrestlers. 

Having said that, I do think the TSSAA needs to take a strong look into the rules in place for private schools. With Baylor in particular, there's a huge difference in that program and say a Father Ryan or Cleveland. FR and Cleveland have great kids clubs, middle school programs, and develop their local talent. Of Baylor's starting 14 last year, I doubt many of them even came up through their middle school program (please correct me if I am wrong). The majority of their starters are not even from the Chattanooga area. This also begs the question, what in the world has happened to McCallie? They have the same resources Baylor does and they can't even wrestle a middle-tiered DII team like MBA within 40 points. With their facilities and resources, the state of that program is inexcusable. 

I think the TSSAA should either A) say private schools can recruit freely and give scholarships/aid as they please so everyone in that division is on an even playing field or B) start to police it more strictly. Right now, it's simply not a fair system. Baylor having finalists in 11 of the 14 weight classes last year is proof of that. The fact Cleveland was able to beat Baylor last year though, speaks volumes about how impressive that program and its coaching is. 

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On 9/11/2022 at 2:34 PM, durdon said:

And please nobody think that I am in anyway supporting the current TSSAA rules at all.  I think HS student should be able to switch to any school that will accept them every year of HS if they want.  So many kids are working their butts off to use their sport to get them into college.  Let them transfer to the schools and communities that are supporting their sport and where they will get the most exposure. 
 

The NCAA allowed it and it been better for students and hasn’t hurt the D1 sports at all, in fact I think it’s helped. 

I have always said that "ALL" high school students should be allowed one (1) free transfer without any questions being ask.  The times and family dynamics have changed drastically since the TSSAA established the transfer rules.  Often times you have a child living with a parent and for whatever reason the child is forced to move 10 miles across town to live with another family member and attend another school.  More times than not these kids need athletics much more than the coaches need the kids.  My father once told me that no one has ever become pregnant, broken into someone's home or stolen a car while they were in a smelly gymnasium or on an athletic filed.  My personal feelings are that the TSSAA and Board of Control are useless and lazy bureaucrats that are not in touch with reality, therefore nothing will change.  

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54 minutes ago, cowcatcher said:

I would be in favor of the TSSAA following the changes the NCAA made with kids transferring. Regardless of the reason, I do not think the kids should have to suffer by sitting out a year. 

We can bad mouth Baylor all we want, but it sounds like they cleared everything with the TSSAA. As far as Sturgill goes,

Does it? Because it sounds to me like he transferred. Then his coach went with him and they DIDN'T get it cleared with TSSAA. It sounds like he went and was hoping it would all not come up. 

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55 minutes ago, Ummmno said:

Does it? Because it sounds to me like he transferred. Then his coach went with him and they DIDN'T get it cleared with TSSAA. It sounds like he went and was hoping it would all not come up. 

I am just going off what Coach Holland posted. I have heard nothing but great things about Coach Holland and Hunter Sturgill. He said he even has a letter from Mark Reeves. I doubt he is just lying about that. I would be surprised if the two of them and Baylor would just "hope it wouldn't come up." If you're right and they didn't clear it with the TSSAA, I doubt it was because of a lack of integrity and just hoping they wouldn't be caught. I have got to assume there are smart enough people over there at Baylor running that athletic department not to think they could just bring in a high-profile kid like that and just get away with it. 

I am sure someone could just call or email the TSSAA for clarification if it mattered that much to them.

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1 hour ago, cbg said:

I have always said that "ALL" high school students should be allowed one (1) free transfer without any questions being ask.  The times and family dynamics have changed drastically since the TSSAA established the transfer rules.  Often times you have a child living with a parent and for whatever reason the child is forced to move 10 miles across town to live with another family member and attend another school.  More times than not these kids need athletics much more than the coaches need the kids.  My father once told me that no one has ever become pregnant, broken into someone's home or stolen a car while they were in a smelly gymnasium or on an athletic filed.  My personal feelings are that the TSSAA and Board of Control are useless and lazy bureaucrats that are not in touch with reality, therefore nothing will change.  

Great point, cbg! Totally agree.

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