UNRULY PARENTS DRIVING OUT REFS AND COACHES

[GeneralForrest]

Just now, ghostofthepast2021 said:

Been around the game for decades now, for every 1-2 coaches pulling that nonsense, there are dozens of parents.  Witnessed a Portland parent do it just a few weeks back.

Extreme  scenario. None of my points endorsed such stupidity. You ignored my points and lost your mind as per yuge. 

[ghostofthepast2021]

1 minute ago, GeneralForrest said:

Interesting twist to the post. It's a straw man that no one mentioned. My youngest kid is 34. He did play at a small college in Maryland.

I think in general, you are projecting, and if you need to scream the above at yourself for it to sink in, knock yourself out. 

College ball from a small high school isn't that unusual. There are plenty of small colleges around. Pro ball is less than a 1 in a million shot, just to add facts to your sort of psychotic self-own above. 

You take it literally about yourself.  I mean of the thousands of parents, under 1% of their kids play on the next level.  You are the one who needs to stop projecting, and maybe learn reading comprehension. 

[ghostofthepast2021]

2 minutes ago, GeneralForrest said:

Extreme  scenario. None of my points endorsed such stupidity. You ignored my points and lost your mind as per yuge. 

Slow down, read the posts, get back to me.  Read a few times if you need to.

[GeneralForrest]

15 minutes ago, ghostofthepast2021 said:

it's simply not worth the abuse for these guys.

poor wittle them 

[ghostofthepast2021]

8 minutes ago, GeneralForrest said:

poor wittle them 

You want better quality, pay them better.  You are the one whinging about old refs on here.  Complaining about how old the refs are at Forrest games.  Poor wittle you.

[WannaBeReferee]

21 hours ago, GeneralForrest said:

Wrong.

Fans are always the scapegoat. It's a garbage take. Team is terrible? Fans aren't doing something right. Coach is incompetent? Fans are too mean, and need to be more supportive. 

All fans do is 1) empty their pocketbooks on fees, uniforms, travel, concessions, fund-raisers and more, 2) drive everywhere, 3) deal with their kids not playing enough, getting injured, and terrible play-calling by people who are getting PAID to do their jobs. 4) deal with horrible refs who aren't supposed to be earning a LIVING with this. I thought they enjoyed it and it was supplemental income. All of a sudden we need a union, 401k, and medical benefits. 

But yes. By all means, let's blame fans. Takes zero intelligence or effort. Sort of how these coaches and refs do their actual jobs- no intelligence or effort. 

By no means am I blaming the fans for everything.  I know there are refs out there that will intentionally do things during a game just to see what they can and cannot get away with.  It is blatantly obvious, but there is nothing we can do about it.   But I also know that there are fans out there that all they want to do is antagonize the crap out of the refs and that is their sole intention.  They could care less about the actual game.  But I see more and more fans immediately jumping on the refs and bashing them due to a missed penalty in the game early on and not let up.   As far as you bulletin points 1-3, parents are going to do that whether or not the game has good refs or bad ones.  They want their kids to play so those points are invalid.  

Why can't these officials make a living off of it?  I mean they do in the NFL and college (I know that these guys have other jobs along with refereeing).  

[Mr. Postman1]

6 hours ago, Macon11 said:

What game did this happen at? 

I’m curious about what happened as well

[OICU812]

1. Yes, there are bad officials… but saying there are some that call stuff just to see what they can “get away with?” Maybe 1 out of 1000? These games are filmed & assigners can see the things you are talking about. So, I’ve got my doubts on the conspiracy that guys just call things to see what they can get away with. 
2. Officials numbers are down & it’s not gonna get better until pay increases & fans/coaches get off of their backs. 
3. There are a lot of guys being thrust onto the field & they aren’t ready… Young guys that could really benefit from running the clock and watching the more experienced dudes run a game. why? because the numbers are down & the guys making the schedule do not have a choice. They either go with the inexperienced guy or go short an officials. I’ve seen it more than once this year at games I’ve been to. Only 4 refs, when there should be at least 5. Ideally there would be 7. That will be the case in the later playoff rounds.  But until then — Trial by fire. 

[fredjones]

1 hour ago, OICU812 said:

1. Yes, there are bad officials… but saying there are some that call stuff just to see what they can “get away with?” Maybe 1 out of 1000? These games are filmed & assigners can see the things you are talking about. So, I’ve got my doubts on the conspiracy that guys just call things to see what they can get away with. 
2. Officials numbers are down & it’s not gonna get better until pay increases & fans/coaches get off of their backs. 
3. There are a lot of guys being thrust onto the field & they aren’t ready… Young guys that could really benefit from running the clock and watching the more experienced dudes run a game. why? because the numbers are down & the guys making the schedule do not have a choice. They either go with the inexperienced guy or go short an officials. I’ve seen it more than once this year at games I’ve been to. Only 4 refs, when there should be at least 5. Ideally there would be 7. That will be the case in the later playoff rounds.  But until then — Trial by fire. 

What games have you seen 4 officials on the field?

[OICU812]

4 minutes ago, fredjones said:

What games have you seen 4 officials on the field?

When S.Creek played Franklin High there were only 4 officials.

A friend of mine is a ref. He said there were 3-4 other games that week that only had 4 officials. 

[Indian]

A crucial late fumble was missed in a game I saw a couple of weeks ago, even the non-biased TV crew (covers games all over the area) admitted it was a bad miss in a tie game. These things are probably going to happen more often if more refs are unable to keep going. 

[fredjones]

On 10/8/2022 at 10:06 AM, OICU812 said:

When S.Creek played Franklin High there were only 4 officials.

A friend of mine is a ref. He said there were 3-4 other games that week that only had 4 officials. 

Unbelieveable that a 6A football game in Tennessee was officiated by 4 officials.