It was a West Tn take over in Murfreesboro! 2023 was special!

[HawkGuy06]

11 hours ago, westtn12 said:

Where is the UC fan that always trashes the west. 

Westview McKenzie Southside Gold Balls!! And all came from little ole west TN. And nobody from the UC would have beaten any of those three teams. 

@UCSportsFan you have mail sir! I am just the messenger 

[pioneer42]

1 hour ago, HawkGuy06 said:

@UCSportsFan you have mail sir! I am just the messenger 

He congratulated South Side and give y’all some love in my post yesterday. He has given West TN a lot of credit. He said that teams in West TN are stronger this year. 

[BIGPURPLEMACHINE]

1 hour ago, HawkGuy06 said:

The championship was a landslide! Idk what y’all can’t see! 

We weren’t talking about the championship game. We were talking about the qtr final between York and Westview. 

[TryNotToSuck]

7 hours ago, BIGPURPLEMACHINE said:

I hate when people say a certain whistle or play cost them the game. In the case of Westview they won by 2. Had the other team made any of the 3 pt shots they missed they would have beaten Westview. All of those plays cost them too. Not just the supposed bad call at the end. 

Respectively, I don't know if that's the case. A few years ago, Westview was playing Cheatham County in their championship game, and the officials had 3 huge blunders in their game.

#1: (score was 42-40 CC with 25-30 seconds remaining) an offensive foul against Westview while the defender on CC was already falling down prior to the contact being made. 

#2 (same 42-40 score) CC was shooting 2 free throws and Westview (and the clock operator) got confused thinking it was a 1-and-1. While Westview went and grabbed the rebound after the first free throw, half a second went off the clock on TV (I don't know if it went off the clock inside the Murphy Center or not), and the officials didn't correct it back to the actual time.

#3 (same 42-40 score) Cheatham County missed the second free throw as well and there was a CC player who gave Westview an extended arm bar to the Westview's players back. It's pretty obvious if you find a way to look at it on film. No loose ball foul was called on CC.

It's always a topic, I'm sure not letting things get too "physical" was a point of emphasis during the state tournament. Calling over 100 fouls during the 16 quarterfinal games than last year is a point of concern and it's something that has got to be addressed immediately.

This year, was that a foul on York against Westview? No way. However, when High School officials see an arm swipe going down on an offensive player, they're going to call in 8-9 times out of 10, regardless if the defensive player got "all ball" which see did. To me, it's not a foul in any level, and I think college/NBA officials would likely let that play go. In that play, it was tied at 42 all with 6 seconds to go. If the officials didn't call a foul, York would've got the rebound on that same play. So yes, I do think it cost York a chance to win the game.

Again, a few years ago, I thought the officials cost Westview a chance to win the game. This year, I thought they helped Westview and ended up costing York a chance to make a game winning shot in regulation in a tied game.

What happened with South Side should be more of a concern because (In my opinion) the officials were calling the game a certain way, and then there was a technical foul against South Side, and then the game was called a different way. The box score doesn't take much to see what happened and how that game was officiated between halves. I do believe the officials just caved in to South Side in that half, and gave them a lot of whistles and free throws, way more than Elizabethton. It was more of "let's just please South Side than officiate the game." Feelings are real, my friend. 

If I told you, if the officials didn't give South Side that technical foul on (I think) McNeal, does South Side still win the game? And you answered yes, I would told you that you're crazier than a Huntingdon football fan having optimism in November...

[tennesseeannouncer]

Some really good thoughts all across the discussion. Personally, there are few circumstances where I would say that a single whistle determined the game. Was the whistle in the Westview/York game a bad call? In my opinion it was. Was the whistle the single reason that York lost the game? In my opinion it was not. Whistles don’t cause a team to shoot 6-22 from three. And for the record, I am far from a Westview apologist. 

[UCSportsFan]

14 hours ago, westtn12 said:

Where is the UC fan that always trashes the west. 

Westview McKenzie Southside Gold Balls!! And all came from little ole west TN. And nobody from the UC would have beaten any of those three teams. 

I’m right here. West Tn won this year so credit goes to those teams. I love how y’all are all over the message boards when you win but last year you were a ghost. I give credit Westview has always been a great program McKenzie backed up last years state title with another one this year. Amazing feat!  SS finally got themselves Gold. That’s awesome and I’m happy for the team and coaches and the communities. It’s great to have all that hard work payoff. But now overall the west is still weaker than middle and east Tn. This year the West won so you have the right to talk a little smack. Just make sure when the status quo is reinstated in the coming years you’re as easy to find as you are now!  This is my 20th year in here and I don’t need too many fingers to count on how many times the west has won multiple state titles in one year…..

[WestviewAlumni]

39 minutes ago, TryNotToSuck said:

Respectively, I don't know if that's the case. A few years ago, Westview was playing Cheatham County in their championship game, and the officials had 3 huge blunders in their game.

#1: (score was 42-40 CC with 25-30 seconds remaining) an offensive foul against Westview while the defender on CC was already falling down prior to the contact being made. 

#2 (same 42-40 score) CC was shooting 2 free throws and Westview (and the clock operator) got confused thinking it was a 1-and-1. While Westview went and grabbed the rebound after the first free throw, half a second went off the clock on TV (I don't know if it went off the clock inside the Murphy Center or not), and the officials didn't correct it back to the actual time.

#3 (same 42-40 score) Cheatham County missed the second free throw as well and there was a CC player who gave Westview an extended arm bar to the Westview's players back. It's pretty obvious if you find a way to look at it on film. No loose ball foul was called on CC.

It's always a topic, I'm sure not letting things get too "physical" was a point of emphasis during the state tournament. Calling over 100 fouls during the 16 quarterfinal games than last year is a point of concern and it's something that has got to be addressed immediately.

This year, was that a foul on York against Westview? No way. However, when High School officials see an arm swipe going down on an offensive player, they're going to call in 8-9 times out of 10, regardless if the defensive player got "all ball" which see did. To me, it's not a foul in any level, and I think college/NBA officials would likely let that play go. In that play, it was tied at 42 all with 6 seconds to go. If the officials didn't call a foul, York would've got the rebound on that same play. So yes, I do think it cost York a chance to win the game.

Again, a few years ago, I thought the officials cost Westview a chance to win the game. This year, I thought they helped Westview and ended up costing York a chance to make a game winning shot in regulation in a tied game.

What happened with South Side should be more of a concern because (In my opinion) the officials were calling the game a certain way, and then there was a technical foul against South Side, and then the game was called a different way. The box score doesn't take much to see what happened and how that game was officiated between halves. I do believe the officials just caved in to South Side in that half, and gave them a lot of whistles and free throws, way more than Elizabethton. It was more of "let's just please South Side than officiate the game." Feelings are real, my friend. 

If I told you, if the officials didn't give South Side that technical foul on (I think) McNeal, does South Side still win the game? And you answered yes, I would told you that you're crazier than a Huntingdon football fan having optimism in November...

And as a Westview fan and alumni that game still burns me up. And people think we don’t know what it’s like to be on the bad side of the whistle. 

[UCSportsFan]

2 hours ago, HawkGuy06 said:

@UCSportsFan you have mail sir! I am just the messenger 

No you’re not you’re acting like a punk again. Have a little class brother. Act like you’ve been there before. You should take a page from Barry Sanders and apply it to yourself…

 

“Happiness does not come from football awards.  It’s terrible to correlate happiness with football.  Happiness comes from a good job, being able to feed your wife and kids.  I don’t dream football, I dream the American dream – two cars in a garage, be a happy father.” Barry Sanders

The kids won a gold ball  wonderful but let’s keep it in perspective.  
 

 

[HawkGuy06]

57 minutes ago, pioneer42 said:

He congratulated South Side and give y’all some love in my post yesterday. He has given West TN a lot of credit. He said that teams in West TN are stronger this year. 

Naw I know he did. I know they was talking about him that’s why I tagged him

[HawkGuy06]

2 minutes ago, UCSportsFan said:

No you’re not you’re acting like a punk again. Have a little class brother. Act like you’ve been there before. You should take a page from Barry Sanders and apply it to yourself…

 

“Happiness does not come from football awards.  It’s terrible to correlate happiness with football.  Happiness comes from a good job, being able to feed your wife and kids.  I don’t dream football, I dream the American dream – two cars in a garage, be a happy father.” Barry Sanders

The kids won a gold ball  wonderful but let’s keep it in perspective.  
 

 

Oh punk huh? Name calling is very classy! I seen your post yesterday about congratulating West Tn, I wasn’t picking with you dude! I was just tagging you because I know they was talking about you! 

[HawkGuy06]

12 hours ago, LetsGoBrandon said:

.....sounds like a back-to-back state tournament loser to WV with that stupid post. Good luck next year. If WV doesn't beat you, then GC, Huntingdon, Loretto or Summertown probably will. 

I agree! 

[UCSportsFan]

10 minutes ago, HawkGuy06 said:

Oh punk huh? Name calling is very classy! I seen your post yesterday about congratulating West Tn, I wasn’t picking with you dude! I was just tagging you because I know they was talking about you! 

My apologies sir. I mean that