Trousdale County 2025

[TCVeritas]

The DC was bad. Gave up 40 per game. I’d say he was totally at fault for the defense and apparently Gregory agrees since he replaced the DC with someone who had a good run as a DC previously in Coach West. 
Football coaches, especially coordinators should not be coaching other sports period. So I completely agree the DC coaching baseball hurt the defense and development of players

[TCVeritas]

6 minutes ago, JacketJunkie said:

So the DC being at baseball is the excuse for his 'Swiss cheese' defense, as you called it? Since the HC being at softball is the reason the team was bad? You asked me when the program started to fail, and I gave my honest thoughts on the system now suddenly I'm the one pushing a narrative? 

I’m bit confused by this, the program began to fall because the middle school coach had an altercation and left the program. So, was the middle school coach a good coach or a bad coach?

[1988NationalChamps]

13 minutes ago, TCVeritas said:

My bus driver gave me an award for being the best window cleaner because I licked all the windows clean on my way to school when I was in school. So no, I don’t know much. 

I do know this, Gregory was handed an absolute disaster of a program and was asked to lead it back to prominence. 

The program fell apart over many years for various reasons previously stated in this thread. It’s was not going to be fixed in a year regardless of who got he job. 
 

Given the circumstances, any coach would need 3-4 years to fix it. Therefore, I am reserving my opinion until he has time to make an impact on the program. Whether that be positive or negative. 

If in 3 or 4 years from now, if they are 0-10, the whole staff need to be fired 

 

I'm just glad you admitted he was handed the job, because I've been saying he didn't earn it on this whole thread! They were .500 before Gregory took over! Not sure I would call that a "disaster"!!!  Any team that goes 0-10 should fire the staff. First year or not, 0-10 is not acceptable in Trousdale County and if you're happy with that, you are part of that town's problem! 

[TCVeritas]

6 minutes ago, 1988NationalChamps said:

I'm just glad you admitted he was handed the job, because I've been saying he didn't earn it on this whole thread! They were .500 before Gregory took over! Not sure I would call that a "disaster"!!!  Any team that goes 0-10 should fire the staff. First year or not, 0-10 is not acceptable in Trousdale County and if you're happy with that, you are part of that town's problem! 

I don’t think anyone was happy with 0-10. I may be wrong, but I don’t recall you on here calling for the staff to be fired when they were 2-9 two years ago. And by TC standards that’s a disaster too. But I am assuming you and that coach are probably golfing buddies

Edited March 17 by TCVeritas

[JacketJunkie]

14 minutes ago, TCVeritas said:

I’m bit confused by this, the program began to fall because the middle school coach had an altercation and left the program. So, was the middle school coach a good coach or a bad coach?

Whether or not he is a good coach is beside the point. The facts are that after the incident, a new middle school coach was appointed. The middle school teams are the same ones that feed into the high school teams now. After one tough year with the new coach, there was another coaching change. He remained the coach until the recent promotion/demotion, which led to yet another new middle school head coach. In middle school, kids are taught football basics how to tackle and the fundamentals of offense and defense. If they don't receive that instruction, the results of the previous year in high school are what you get. Granted, the middle school team has been better in recent years, but as you mentioned, the key players from those teams have either transferred out or are simply not playing anymore.

[TCVeritas]

20 minutes ago, JacketJunkie said:

Whether or not he is a good coach is beside the point. The facts are that after the incident, a new middle school coach was appointed. The middle school teams are the same ones that feed into the high school teams now. After one tough year with the new coach, there was another coaching change. He remained the coach until the recent promotion/demotion, which led to yet another new middle school head coach. In middle school, kids are taught football basics how to tackle and the fundamentals of offense and defense. If they don't receive that instruction, the results of the previous year in high school are what you get. Granted, the middle school team has been better in recent years, but as you mentioned, the key players from those teams have either transferred out or are simply not playing anymore.

Just curious, who is responsible for choosing the middle school coaches?

Who was responsible for selecting Williams and Carter?

Also, did William become a varsity HC at Bolivar and now Humboldt?

And didn’t Dyer, current Smith Co coach, replace Eden? I’d say that would have been an upgrade since he is now a HS Head Coach 

Edited March 17 by TCVeritas

[1988NationalChamps]

22 minutes ago, TCVeritas said:

I don’t think anyone was happy with 0-10. I may be wrong, but I don’t recall you on here calling for the staff to be fired when they were 2-9 two years ago. And by TC standards that’s a disaster too. But I am assuming you and that coach are probably golfing buddies

You're exactly right about the 2-9 season! It was unacceptable! You know what's worse than 2-9 though? 0-10! 

[Preppy]

On 3/14/2025 at 12:32 PM, tcjacket13 said:

Vetetoe was HC at JSMS for 2 years when he first started. 2010-12? Been freshman HC at Oakland for 4-5 years. I think he went like 44-1 in that time with his offenses averaging 40+ppg in one of the most talented counties in TN. I think if you have ever been around him coaching, you would understand why so many want him back at TC. I think several in the school system would vouch for him as well. Has 100+ wins as baseball HC at TC and Lebanon. Took a very young sophomore heavy team to substate first year as baseball coach at TC. We have all followed him for years, if you know his story it is quite impressive. But still don’t know how it’s possible some think he leaves Oakland OC job for TC job. The fact that he would even consider it should tell people how much he truly still cares about TC. As someone else said earlier, KG is having to try to right a lot of wrongs by those of the past and it’s not easy. I understand last year was rough but time is not on the currents staff side. With one time transfer coming and the jackets losing, the “talent” that’s coming will find its way on others sidelines and it’s already started to happen. 

He's not the offensive coordinator at Oakland. Come on guys. Let's live in reality.

 

He got ousted as the baseball coach at Lebanon. A quick google search tells us that he was 27-32 over his final two seasons as the baseball coach at TCHS and 72-67 at LHS (with an 18-25 record over that span in district play). 

 

Let's not make this legend into something he's not. 

 

Can he coach? I'm sure he can. Is there baggage and an abrasive personality? Well, that's what "they" all say. 

 

Does TCHS need football coaches? You bet your rear end they do. But is he really going to be hired back? Why wouldn't he already be back if he is going to be hired back? What's the hold up?   

 

And isn't it odd that his name keeps coming up in this thread so prevalently. Man, he must really have some fans! Come on guys ... it's all right in front of your nose.

[JacketJunkie]

1 hour ago, TCVeritas said:

The DC was bad. Gave up 40 per game. I’d say he was totally at fault for the defense and apparently Gregory agrees since he replaced the DC with someone who had a good run as a DC previously in Coach West. 
Football coaches, especially coordinators should not be coaching other sports period. So I completely agree the DC coaching baseball hurt the defense and development of players

Let's check in with Dyer since you mentioned him. With a 2-10 record and wins over TC and Jackson, I guess he would be considered an "upgrade" since he won at least 2 games?

 

It sounds like you have a lot of strong feelings toward the DOS?

 

Surely, the high school coach would have some influence over the feeder program, right?

[TCVeritas]

26 minutes ago, JacketJunkie said:

Let's check in with Dyer since you mentioned him. With a 2-10 record and wins over TC and Jackson, I guess he would be considered an "upgrade" since he won at least 2 games?

 

It sounds like you have a lot of strong feelings toward the DOS?

 

Surely, the high school coach would have some influence over the feeder program, right?

I don’t under your logic, if the guy was an upgrade at the middle school, but yet, the feeder school is the problem? Wouldn’t an upgrade make the feeder program better?

The DOS is doing what he thinks is best for the schools. I just disagree agree with the amount of control he has over all the athletics in TC. 
 

We can have great academics and athletic success with just a few policy changes that can be done very easily 

[GhostBussta]

2 hours ago, Preppy said:

He's not the offensive coordinator at Oakland. Come on guys. Let's live in reality.

 

He got ousted as the baseball coach at Lebanon. A quick google search tells us that he was 27-32 over his final two seasons as the baseball coach at TCHS and 72-67 at LHS (with an 18-25 record over that span in district play). 

 

Let's not make this legend into something he's not. 

 

Can he coach? I'm sure he can. Is there baggage and an abrasive personality? Well, that's what "they" all say. 

 

Does TCHS need football coaches? You bet your rear end they do. But is he really going to be hired back? Why wouldn't he already be back if he is going to be hired back? What's the hold up?   

 

And isn't it odd that his name keeps coming up in this thread so prevalently. Man, he must really have some fans! Come on guys ... it's all right in front of your nose.

He must have some fans, he’s got you worried and Google searching. 
you need to do some more research because you obviously got a lot wrong. Look up Lebanon Baseball the 5 seasons before he got there.!! Won 21 games in 5 seasons before he got there, he won 72 in 4 yrs by your count. Sounds to me Vetetoe has rebuilt a dumpster fire before. Oh if you got more time, look and see how they have done since he left. 
Abrasive personality? You mean the same personality that Clint had, that created success? Yea I agree he’s got that, he want have a hard time changing the culture. 
 

[tcjacket13]

3 hours ago, Preppy said:

He's not the offensive coordinator at Oakland. Come on guys. Let's live in reality.

 

He got ousted as the baseball coach at Lebanon. A quick google search tells us that he was 27-32 over his final two seasons as the baseball coach at TCHS and 72-67 at LHS (with an 18-25 record over that span in district play). 

 

Let's not make this legend into something he's not. 

 

Can he coach? I'm sure he can. Is there baggage and an abrasive personality? Well, that's what "they" all say. 

 

Does TCHS need football coaches? You bet your rear end they do. But is he really going to be hired back? Why wouldn't he already be back if he is going to be hired back? What's the hold up?   

 

And isn't it odd that his name keeps coming up in this thread so prevalently. Man, he must really have some fans! Come on guys ... it's all right in front of your nose.

Hmm sounds like he’s the offensive coordinator according to Coach Creasy. And as someone that covered multiple Oakland games this season, he is the only other coach in offensive huddles other than Creasy. The fact is people are going to have to look past the bull and realize Eric Vetetoe can help this program greatly.