Mr. Basketball Nominations

[Alumn89]

2 hours ago, UCSportsFan said:

This is terrible in my opinion. In the two head to head matchups Cobb clearly was the better overall player. He plays defense at a MUCH higher level than Capps does which makes him an all around better player. Capps plays to not get a foul called on him and maybe that’s by design but there is more to being an mvp than scoring points which they are basically even on that. Maybe the voting was done by democrats where everyone gets a trophy. Why not just give every teams best player co-mvp!  Makes as much sense as this does. If Capps is not the son of the head coach he doesn’t get the nod. I’m not trying to disrespect this young man and his achievements in any way. He’s a great scorer of the basketball and ANY coach would love to have him on their roster. No question about that. However if we are choosing an M V P then it needs to be the BEST all around individual player.  I think some people need to grow a pair in my opinion. 

I disagree with your opinion on MVP being the BEST all around player.   Most Valuable Player means most valuable doesn't it?  I think you could make an argument that capps may be more valuable to his team than cobb.  You may disagree with that, but it seems to me upperman has better pieces surrounding Cobb. 

Just a different way of looking at it.  I agree Cobb is the better total player. 

[fentressbb]

5 minutes ago, Alumn89 said:

I disagree with your opinion on MVP being the BEST all around player.   Most Valuable Player means most valuable doesn't it?  I think you could make an argument that capps may be more valuable to his team than cobb.  You may disagree with that, but it seems to me upperman has better pieces surrounding Cobb. 

Just a different way of looking at it.  I agree Cobb is the better total player. 

Agree with this to I have now watched smhs play 11 games I think to date this year. The kid can play. I am a Jack Cordell fan and have kept up with them a lot this year since he has transfered to Crossville. . To say capps got this because of his dad is a joke. Is Ty Cobb more athletic? Yes!!!  Is he the most valuable to his team ??? I am not sure. Capps turns up defensively in second half and I would say any coach in America would not want him in foul trouble but for sure not his because he doesn't have alot around him so he has to stay in.   Due to the fact he doesn't have a lot around him -he gets guarded harder than any high school kid I have seen and still averages over 30. He rebounds the ball well too so he is not just a scorer . I think it's fine to be a fan of certain players but bringing others down is a bad look   Honestly from what I have seen Trey thompson should win Mr Basketball but I would not say a negative thing about either of the other 2 if they won. I respect all good players.  But to say Capps  got co mvp because of his dad is dumb. Watch how the other coaches guard him and you see the respect they have for him. Good luck to Cobb going forward as well -,he is an amazing player 

[HonkyNinja12]

5 hours ago, UCSportsFan said:

This is terrible in my opinion. In the two head to head matchups Cobb clearly was the better overall player. He plays defense at a MUCH higher level than Capps does which makes him an all around better player. Capps plays to not get a foul called on him and maybe that’s by design but there is more to being an mvp than scoring points which they are basically even on that. Maybe the voting was done by democrats where everyone gets a trophy. Why not just give every teams best player co-mvp!  Makes as much sense as this does. If Capps is not the son of the head coach he doesn’t get the nod. I’m not trying to disrespect this young man and his achievements in any way. He’s a great scorer of the basketball and ANY coach would love to have him on their roster. No question about that. However if we are choosing an M V P then it needs to be the BEST all around individual player.  I think some people need to grow a pair in my opinion. 

I agree with not liking co MVP sets a bad precedent in general and one’s dad is a head coach. Doesnt look good from my view but this is a tight race and a rare occurrence of talent and production in any district much less in 3A district 7. Lol Capps leads his team in almost every category, averages like 31/8/3 and a 3,000 point scorer lol I also agree personally Cobb Is a little better total player but its close at this stage where Cobb is younger. Capps has alot less to work with where several nights Cobb doesnt have to be the leading scorer for them to play well. But terrible and being outraged is prolly a bit much but I like the fire 

[UCSportsFan]

7 hours ago, fentressbb said:

Agree with this to I have now watched smhs play 11 games I think to date this year. The kid can play. I am a Jack Cordell fan and have kept up with them a lot this year since he has transfered to Crossville. . To say capps got this because of his dad is a joke. Is Ty Cobb more athletic? Yes!!!  Is he the most valuable to his team ??? I am not sure. Capps turns up defensively in second half and I would say any coach in America would not want him in foul trouble but for sure not his because he doesn't have alot around him so he has to stay in.   Due to the fact he doesn't have a lot around him -he gets guarded harder than any high school kid I have seen and still averages over 30. He rebounds the ball well too so he is not just a scorer . I think it's fine to be a fan of certain players but bringing others down is a bad look   Honestly from what I have seen Trey thompson should win Mr Basketball but I would not say a negative thing about either of the other 2 if they won. I respect all good players.  But to say Capps  got co mvp because of his dad is dumb. Watch how the other coaches guard him and you see the respect they have for him. Good luck to Cobb going forward as well -,he is an amazing player 

That’s your biased opinion. Nothing wrong with it. You say you’ve watched 11 games now?  You say he turns up the defense intensity in the 2nd half?  Ok. Defensive intensity is not something I’d put on his mantel. Offensive intensity absolutely!!  At a very high level!!!  I never said one derogatory comment about this great young athlete. I have my own biased opinion just like you do but it never crosses the line as demeaning or disrespectful towards the athletes that play high school sports. 

[knightsfan]

On 2/17/2025 at 11:26 AM, UCSportsFan said:

This is terrible in my opinion. In the two head to head matchups Cobb clearly was the better overall player. He plays defense at a MUCH higher level than Capps does which makes him an all around better player. Capps plays to not get a foul called on him and maybe that’s by design but there is more to being an mvp than scoring points which they are basically even on that. Maybe the voting was done by democrats where everyone gets a trophy. Why not just give every teams best player co-mvp!  Makes as much sense as this does. If Capps is not the son of the head coach he doesn’t get the nod. I’m not trying to disrespect this young man and his achievements in any way. He’s a great scorer of the basketball and ANY coach would love to have him on their roster. No question about that. However if we are choosing an M V P then it needs to be the BEST all around individual player.  I think some people need to grow a pair in my opinion. 

Hey be glad it was co MVP.....in DIstrict 10AAA they decided to not give the MVP to the best player in the district (who is on the best team that went undefeated) and instead give it to a guy on the 3rd place team. Very similar situation to District 7, but not co MVPs. The guy who won it had a little better ppg, but the guy on Hume-Fogg has better rebounds per game, assists, steals, and blocks. Plus Hume-Fogg beat them both times by double digits. Don't get me wrong the kid who got it is good, but when the top team goes undefeated in district and wins every game by double digits, except for 1. You give it to that teams best player, as long as the numbers are comparable (which they are).

[crow6424]

16 minutes ago, knightsfan said:

Hey be glad it was co MVP.....in DIstrict 10AAA they decided to not give the MVP to the best player in the district (who is on the best team that went undefeated) and instead give it to a guy on the 3rd place team. Very similar situation to District 7, but not co MVPs. The guy who won it had a little better ppg, but the guy on Hume-Fogg has better rebounds per game, assists, steals, and blocks. Plus Hume-Fogg beat them both times by double digits. Don't get me wrong the kid who got it is good, but when the top team goes undefeated in district and wins every game by double digits, except for 1. You give it to that teams best player, as long as the numbers are comparable (which they are).

I agree with this. Winning games matters to me when decided these awards and all around stats matters to me not just points. I’m not too worried about district MVPs though. I want to win a championship. I won the district MVP back in the day but would have rather been a state champion.

Edited February 18 by crow6424

[TNHooligan]

I’m late, but also absolutely shocked Aaron Layne isn’t a 2A nom when he’s averaging like 25 and 6 on a state ranked team. 

[knightsfan]

36 minutes ago, crow6424 said:

I agree with this. Winning games matters to me when decided these awards and all around stats matters to me not just points. I’m not too worried about district MVPs though. I want to win a championship. I won the district MVP back in the day but would have rather been a state champion.

Agreed, and so does the team. Would give up MVPs any day for a championship. The problem is things like this shouldn't happen, but unfortunately they do. Its very rare in todays sports world that the MVP doesn't come from the winning team. It happens, but its rare (and don't get me wrong there are definitely times when the losing team should get the MVP, but it is rare).

[crow6424]

2 minutes ago, knightsfan said:

Agreed, and so does the team. Would give up MVPs any day for a championship. The problem is things like this shouldn't happen, but unfortunately they do. Its very rare in todays sports world that the MVP doesn't come from the winning team. It happens, but its rare (and don't get me wrong there are definitely times when the losing team should get the MVP, but it is rare).

If a player from a losing team wins it, the player should have like 30 points a game with 10 rebounds type of stats. It would have to be obvious that they are the best in the district despite the teams record.

[GBO1]

6 minutes ago, knightsfan said:

Agreed, and so does the team. Would give up MVPs any day for a championship. The problem is things like this shouldn't happen, but unfortunately they do. Its very rare in todays sports world that the MVP doesn't come from the winning team. It happens, but its rare (and don't get me wrong there are definitely times when the losing team should get the MVP, but it is rare).

I think most districts use a point system turned in by the coaches and maybe the head assistant, not sure about that, so I guess a tie is possible. I have always wondered , why not wait until the district tourney is over and then the answer could be much more clearer. Both are great players, but Cobb is the MVP.

[knightsfan]

1 hour ago, crow6424 said:

If a player from a losing team wins it, the player should have like 30 points a game with 10 rebounds type of stats. It would have to be obvious that they are the best in the district despite the teams record.

Agreed, and in this case the only stat he was better in was PPG and he had 18 and the other guy had 14.5, and the 14.5 had better rebounding, assists, steals, and block numbers. 

 

[Lakers1977]

Ty Cobb won D1 AAA Mr Basketball